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[Kantrip]

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Those are quoted out of context. One applies to me explaining the pro's and con's to leaving dabuz alive using the assumption that he is town for the purpose of proving my point, the other is my actual opinion of his alignment, which not lynching him still makes more sense than wasting our lynch on him.

He has a scum mate.

There is another team of 2.

There are more people we have to lynch, and holding off on lynching a claimed Comp Cop doesn't mean he gets out of anything

But oh well. What is done is done. Hopefully he flips scum and we can lynch Gorf/Hollow/Hando/Raz by endgame and probably win

 

[Kantrip]

What?

There's no assurance that he will be nightkilled at all, and scum will most likely avoid doing that, since it's expected of them

Yeah, that's the WIFOM part. and we can cross that bridge when we come to it. Scum gains nothing by leaving a claimed cop alive, while town gains free results. We would profit from them using that WIFOM in the end, even if we just ended up using our lynch on him tomorrow

 

[Gargaglione]

We would profit from them using that WIFOM in the end, even if we just ended up using our lynch on him tomorrow

that's exactly why we wouldn't profit from the wifom, because it's likely that scum won't kill him at night and we'll just end up lynching him anyway, and have to go through a whole entire D2 with the wifom

 

[Kantrip]

that's exactly why we wouldn't profit from the wifom, because it's likely that scum won't kill him at night and we'll just end up lynching him anyway, and have to go through a whole entire D2 with the wifom

However, we'd lynch someone Day 1 that we are going to lynch anyways

and we lynch him Day 2, effectively just switching up the order.

if hes scum that would make us break even, dont lose or gain anything

if hes town we get 1 free night result from him. that was what made it worth it to me, but no one wanted to even consider the possibility that he couuuuuld be town, even if it was a very slim one

 

[Kantrip]

I was like the reason dabuz got lynched in the first place. I don't understand why people couldn't at least try to understand where i was coming from and give me the light of day. I dont know what the worst that could happen was in everyones minds? dabuz doesnt get incapped by either team and we're stuck with WIFOM? that's not a big deal.

jesus christ

 

[Gargaglione]

However, we'd lynch someone Day 1 that we are going to lynch anyways

and we lynch him Day 2, effectively just switching up the order.

if hes scum that would make us break even, dont lose or gain anything

if hes town we get 1 free night result from him. that was what made it worth it to me, but no one wanted to even consider the possibility that he couuuuuld be town, even if it was a very slim one

We benefit far more from lynching dabuz earlier. It eliminates the very annoying wifom that has been set up and gives us more leads.

Lynching Handorin pretty much leaves everything as it is at this very moment

 

[Kantrip]

We benefit far more from lynching dabuz earlier. It eliminates the very annoying wifom that has been set up and gives us more leads.

Lynching Handorin pretty much leaves everything as it is at this very moment

k well im just gonna have to wait and when the game goes exactly where i know its going to go i can say i told you so

 

[Gargaglione]

k well im just gonna have to wait and when the game goes exactly where i know its going to go i can say i told you so

The "I told you so" card is really petty. This isn't about being right or wrong, and anyone can call things out in hindsight.

Our current circumstance calls for lynching dabuz first since it will provide far more information.

 

[Gargaglione]

The "I told you so" card is really petty. This isn't about being right or wrong, and anyone can call things out in hindsight.

Our current circumstance calls for lynching dabuz first since it will provide far more information.

EBWOP: and it will eliminate far more ambiguities (the wifom)

 

[Fandangox]

With the n0 action thing isn't it all but confirmed he basically lied? He would have posted results. Knowing that, the other scumteam wouldn't necessarily nightkill him now.

There's no point to not lynching Dabuz now.

 

[Kantrip]

With the n0 action thing isn't it all but confirmed he basically lied? He would have posted results. Knowing that, the other scumteam wouldn't necessarily nightkill him now.

There's no point to not lynching Dabuz now.

I skimmed the last couple pages, what n0 action thing?

Do comp cops get one in N0? I thought it was solely for incaps.

 

[Fandangox]

yeaah i check F&L1 and there was a n0 action

dabuz is probably lying

it's public knowledge at this point



check the afterlife qt

post 56

@Mod: This is a carbon copy of your previous F&L set-up, yes?

Yes it is.

 

[Fandangox]

He done **** up

 

[Kantrip]

Well that's awesome to know.

It's cool that I was right on him and we lynched scum D1 at least. No harm done in this case but what I was saying did have merit before it was revealed daubz was 100% lying

 

[Kantrip]

EBWOP: dabuz*

Also yeah there's still a chance that the other scum team might have incapped him and we could have killed him off without using a lynch but this turned out alright anyways

 

[#HBC | Scary]

What? Why would you want to do his homework for him.

You right. Just thinking out loud man.

With that said, Garg said it best, we lynch dabuz to close out the possibility of all those really bad WIFOM situations. Still leaves us with Hando/Hollow for tomorrow that have been agreed to be scummy. Fine starting place for the next day.

 

[Fandangox]

Well that's awesome to know.

It's cool that I was right on him and we lynched scum D1 at least. No harm done in this case but what I was saying did have merit before it was revealed daubz was 100% lying

 

[Gargaglione]

Well that's awesome to know.

It's cool that I was right on him and we lynched scum D1 at least. No harm done in this case but what I was saying did have merit before it was revealed daubz was 100% lying

K

...

vote on him

 

[Kantrip]

was he not already lynched? I saw a lot of votes piling on him

 

[#HBC | Scary]

STACK IT UP!!!

Vote: Dabuz

 

[Kantrip]

Vote dabuz

just in case I guess?

 

[Fandangox]

I think that lynched him.

 

[Gargaglione]

yea, I counted, he's dead

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I counted up pretty sure that was hammer.

Flip when I get home.

 

[Make it Rain!]

The thing is.

Anyone who claims cop is going to be incapped.

If they're town, by two scumteams.

If they're scum, by the other scum team.

So toMorrow we can just not uncap him and we don't need to use a lynch to kill him.

It's not mechanical bull****, it's ****ing logical thinking and making scum do our work for us so we have more lynches to use on making sure our LyLo isn't comprised of **** like Hando + Hollow. Why would we waste a lynch on someone who is basically 100% going to be incapped at least once and therefore able to be killed by us just not uncapping them? It's called making the best use of the action economy that this setup provides me. A scum who claims Comp Cop is obviously fishing for CCs, but if we don't CC them they're still 100% dead before LyLo so there is NO REASON to worry about them ASAP when there are 3 other scum to find and inactive slots that need pruning.

I still think dabuz is likely scum, but any scum who claims cop is already a walking corpse. It's an open setup, there aren't any surprises that can happen to us by leaving scum alive. We would only benefit by having the other team incap him and we don't even need to use a lynch.

Seriously it's such basic ****ing logic I am dumbfounded by you guys

The thing is.

At no point.

Did you mention your read on dabunz.

And why that matters on how we should handle him.

It's precisely mechanical bull**** because at no point does your scumread on dabunz take precedent here. You tunneled that slot all day and as soon as he claims cop (just cop, not comp cop, no results either despite moving n0) you just back off with this grandiose plan of how we should handle it because he for sure dies when scum could easily just choose not to shoot him at all (very real possibility given that all of town wants to lynch him, why incap that slot when town wants to do the work for you?). You're not reading him, you're just saying "this is what we should do". It's mechanical and it is no way a guaranteed plan. If he's for sure dead, why waste at least a phase doing what should be done now?

 

[Make it Rain!]

Gogdammit **** you kids.

 

[Make it Rain!]

good thing ruy's gonna take hi stime so i can actually post the rest of this

 

[Fandangox]

Gogdammit **** you kids.

Who are you calling kid oldtimer? >:C

 

[Make it Rain!]

Yeah, that's the WIFOM part. and we can cross that bridge when we come to it. Scum gains nothing by leaving a claimed cop alive, while town gains free results. We would profit from them using that WIFOM in the end, even if we just ended up using our lynch on him tomorrow

Nah let's avoid the WIFOM bomb. I'm glad he's dead.

Would've hammered after he posted but you ****s didn't even allow for that

 

[Make it Rain!]

However, we'd lynch someone Day 1 that we are going to lynch anyways

and we lynch him Day 2, effectively just switching up the order.

if hes scum that would make us break even, dont lose or gain anything

if hes town we get 1 free night result from him. that was what made it worth it to me, but no one wanted to even consider the possibility that he couuuuuld be town, even if it was a very slim one

This is how we waste our time. Waste our time. Waste our time! This is how we waste our time and town loses the gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

 

[Make it Rain!]

I was like the reason dabuz got lynched in the first place. I don't understand why people couldn't at least try to understand where i was coming from and give me the light of day. I dont know what the worst that could happen was in everyones minds? dabuz doesnt get incapped by either team and we're stuck with WIFOM? that's not a big deal.

jesus christ

While I'm at it on the children's songs:

The wheels on the bus go round and round! Round and round! Round and round, the wheels on the bus go round and round over dabunz's grave!

 

[Make it Rain!]

k well im just gonna have to wait and when the game goes exactly where i know its going to go i can say i told you so

Well that's awesome to know.

It's cool that I was right on him and we lynched scum D1 at least. No harm done in this case but what I was saying did have merit before it was revealed daubz was 100% lying

what the ****

you don't get to pull the first one and then turn around and be like "blah i was right in the end haha go me!" that **** doesn't happen.

 

[Make it Rain!]

WHY THE **** DID YOU HAMMER WHEN IT WASN'T CONFIRMED HE WAS LYING

vote: Potato

 

[Gargaglione]

WHY THE **** DID YOU HAMMER WHEN IT WASN'T CONFIRMED HE WAS LYING

vote: Potato

Why are you voting now? Save it for D2, bru

 

[Handorin]

Way too much was posted after my cliff note's request and now. Then I read a few posts, had to go away for a few minutes, jumped to the end and I guess dabuz was lynched? Stop posting, it's useless now and makes me read less. kplzthxbye

 

[Kantrip]

I don't think you understand.

Not lynching him went hand in hand with thinking he was scum.

Calling him town, in a lot of ways, was an attempt to make sure the other team incapped him.

I was also giving credit to the chance that he was telling the truth, but my own read on him never changed. I still wanted him dead, I just knew that after a cop claim we could kill him via not uncapping him rather than having to use a lynch. Holding off on lynching him would have benefited him regardless of his alignment, and if the other scumteam happened to not incap him? Oh well we can lynch him D2 and we don't lose anything.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I got them while catching up on what was happening, they literally happened like 5 minutes before making that post.



The thing is.

Anyone who claims cop is going to be incapped.

If they're town, by two scumteams.

If they're scum, by the other scum team.

So toMorrow we can just not uncap him and we don't need to use a lynch to kill him.

It's not mechanical bull****, it's ****ing logical thinking and making scum do our work for us so we have more lynches to use on making sure our LyLo isn't comprised of **** like Hando + Hollow. Why would we waste a lynch on someone who is basically 100% going to be incapped at least once and therefore able to be killed by us just not uncapping them? It's called making the best use of the action economy that this setup provides me. A scum who claims Comp Cop is obviously fishing for CCs, but if we don't CC them they're still 100% dead before LyLo so there is NO REASON to worry about them ASAP when there are 3 other scum to find and inactive slots that need pruning.

I still think dabuz is likely scum, but any scum who claims cop is already a walking corpse. It's an open setup, there aren't any surprises that can happen to us by leaving scum alive. We would only benefit by having the other team incap him and we don't even need to use a lynch.

Seriously it's such basic ****ing logic I am dumbfounded by you guys

**** yo shiz BOI I can't believe you're sticking to this. He's obv not cop there's no reason to NOT lynch him. YOU. ARE. BEING. KANTPLAY. PLZ. STOP lol you thinkin you can like swing this n then gova comes in here and turns everything on its head.

Oh also let me just say congrats Swahawks

What's CC bait.

I specifically said that no one should CC under any circumstances. Sure the claim could be CC bait, but if no one CC's then if he's scum the other scum team will incap him because they can't risk leaving the town CC (on the chance that he is town) alive to get free results. So we can kill him by not uncapping him and save a lynch, and he doesn't get any CC's out of it.

Win-win, easy peazy, really ****ing obvious ****.

Dude save yourself the wifom ad just lych his ass it only worked because it was possible that he was cop now it's not holy crap stop man you are ridiculous.

 

[Kantrip]

**** yo shiz BOI I can't believe you're sticking to this. He's obv not cop there's no reason to NOT lynch him. YOU. ARE. BEING. KANTPLAY. PLZ. STOP lol you thinkin you can like swing this n then gova comes in here and turns everything on its head.

Oh also let me just say congrats Swahawks



Dude save yourself the wifom ad just lych his *** it only worked because it was possible that he was cop now it's not holy crap stop man you are ridiculous.

Catch up.

I wasn't aware he had basically confirmed himself a liar by not sharing a N0 result, it's all good now.

 

[Kantrip]

*sigh*

Besides, it wouldn't be me if I didn't throw a little kantplay into the equation. I was meshing far too well with people, had to make everyone think I was stupid sometime or it wouldn't feel right.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I was like the reason dabuz got lynched in the first place. I don't understand why people couldn't at least try to understand where i was coming from and give me the light of day. I dont know what the worst that could happen was in everyones minds? dabuz doesnt get incapped by either team and we're stuck with WIFOM? that's not a big deal.

jesus christ

This. Friggin. Guy.

Oh and there is NO MOTHER FUCKING WAY that this guy didn't notice the whole Gova catching dabuz' slip. If he noticed the wagon, he noticed the slip. Plus he had PLENTY of time to catch onto the fact of why he was. If he read that dabuz had votes, he definitely read why. And if I have to explain why that's scummy to anyone I will, but oooooh man Kantrip you done ****ed up.