Final Smashes: Are they lacking?

[Turokman5896]

I love when fighting games give players super awesome ultra combos that are over the top awesome. But i think smash 4's final smashes are kinda lacking compared to the competition. Some are great but i feel they could be more. Take a look at a couple of these cinematic ultras

Smash has some fantastic FS's as well, what do you guys think?

 

[StarLight42]

Final Smashes arent that great this time around, most of them are just the same ones from brawl

 

[Dudery and FAITH forever]

Final Smashes arent that great this time around, most of them are just the same ones from brawl

tell me about it,i wish dk got a new one,instead of the bongos,maybe he would beat the enemy up like he does to the tikis and barrels at the end of a stage in returns/tropical freeze.

or maybe he could throw barrels from the background like in the original donkey kong arcade,sorta like snakes but from the background instead.

but i am happy with what we have so far,sakurai has been doing alot for the fans so i cant be mad at him.

 

[JUr]

I don't think so... Generally speaking FS cannot take much time due to the pace of matches in Smash and in consequence you must do something flashy but brief and powerful...

Also, the FS of Megaman is worth of all praise...

 

[<π]

I felt a bit let down that sheik has the same final smash... I get that she is zelda, thats cool and all, but they could of at least had her shoot it at an angle or straight up or something different.

 

[Turokman5896]

I don't think so... Generally speaking FS cannot take much time due to the pace of matches in Smash and in consequence you must do something flashy but brief and powerful...

Also, the FS of Megaman is worth of all praise...

I point to falcon and megaman; cinematic FS can work very well. I just used these as examples of badass ultras/

btw love samurai champloo

 

[Gidy]

I don't think so... Generally speaking FS cannot take much time due to the pace of matches in Smash and in consequence you must do something flashy but brief and powerful...

Also, the FS of Megaman is worth of all praise...

 

[Fishbowl]

Mario Finale was impressive and new in Brawl, now it seems bland. I think it was pretty lazy of the Smash team not to update most of the Final Smashes. Definitely makes the game feel like it's missing that level of polish that most Nintendo games get.

 

[ToothiestAura]

Megaman's and Greninja's Final Smashes are amazing. They make everything look bad, really.
Though, Pit's new FS is gorgeous.

 

[Xermo]

As long as PK Rockin' makes it in this time, I could care less. Or at least a better starstorm.

 

[TheUltraDeino]

I'm still wondering why Shiek and Toon Link still have the same final smash. Tlink could have a FS like ZSamus or Snake, where he bombs the battlefield with the king of red lions.

 

[strawhatninja]

I'm still wondering Shiek and Toon Link still have the same final smash. Tlink could have a FS like ZSamus or Snake, where he bombs the battlefield with the king of red lions.

I know Shiek has the same final smash and I'm pretty sure Toon Link does too but I'm not positive.

 

[TheUltraDeino]

I know Shiek has the same final smash and I'm pretty sure Toon Link does too but I'm not positive.

Whoops I meant to say "wonder why" I already know they have the same fs. Kinda stupid how forgetting one word changes the entire and context

 

[D-idara]

Megaman's Final Smash looks ****ing awesome, and don't forget Kirby going American Kirby with Ultra Sword...yes, there are some lacking ones but eh, Robin's FS is awesome too at least.

 

[Tshockz]

Yeah some of them are lacking especially rosalinas and DKs I only wish there were more of them that were like megaman and falcons.

 

[Superyoshiom]

Some final smashes are awesome and climactic, like Kirby's or Captain Falcon's, and others are well... DK's bongos

 

[Smash G]

Really I don't care about Final Smashes. Maybe if there was some kind of energy bar so that it's not dependent on an item... I'm not against item play or anything. It's just kind of stupid to me that there's so much emphasis on it.

 

[Brindor]

They've improved on some of them since Brawl.

 

[25%Cotton]

to be honest, i never got the buzz around megaman's FS and i still don't.

i have played megaman before.
and i've seen my cousin beat a lot of levels and bosses in many entries.

 

[praline]

Who cares if they lacking? We all know we'll turn off Smash balls eventually.

 

[StarshipGroove]

Final smashes are lacking for the following reasons:

-All of them are unbalanced af. Some are worthless, some are godly.
-No special graphic effect / cool sound effect / what have you when you pull off one. Just a measly zoom on your character.
-Generic and unfitting for the most part... Giga Bowser?
-Cloned finals, hello that sheik light arrows
-The zoom on your character. Rosalina's final smash is so horrible, that it is more likely to screw with somebody recovering off stage with its zoom, than getting an actual KO. Poke trainer's FS zoomed in for like 6 seconds too.
-they're janky. For example Ganondorfs turns into Ganon, zips off stage in a static pose, and then he just pops back offstage without graphical effects. Several FS are like this and need fixing.
-glitchy (at least in Brawl)
-they're mostly lame. Rob goes crazy and shoots lasers from his eyes, wow so cool. Jigglypuff puffs up. DK should jump into space and punch the moon so hard it falls onto the stage, not play bongos.

 

[KaZe_DaRKWIND]

I wish that Rosalina and DK had better smashes so they were at least decent.

 

[Raijinken]

Please only one Landmaster this game.

That said, eh, they're fun sometimes but as has been mentioned, they break the flow of Smash much more than they break the flow of Street Fighter.

 

[YoPoYo9100]

Donkey Kongs FS is incredibly dull and isn't fun IMO. I just feel like there are many more options to use.
I like the Bongos, I just don't feel like they're IMPRESSIVE or POWER FULL like a FS should be.

I remember getting 2 Smash Balls at the Best Buy Smash Fest while I was playing as DK. When I used the second FS, I heard a collective sigh coming from the line behind me.
Yet, anytime Mega Man used his FS the line went crazy.

There was a very noticeable difference in hype.
I would like to see more Donkey Kong fan service.

 

[mario123007]

Final Smashes, they are great, but a little bit disappointed to see most of them being unchanged

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Really I don't care about Final Smashes. Maybe if there was some kind of energy bar so that it's not dependent on an item... I'm not against item play or anything. It's just kind of stupid to me that there's so much emphasis on it.

Go play PSABR then.
Jk

 

[ParanoidDrone]

I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of the cinematic final smashes since they cut away from the main fight. This is mostly a FFA issue, obviously it doesn't matter in a 1v1. But I mostly just want them balanced relative to each other. I mean, there's really no comparing Super Sonic or the Landmaster against the bongos or Power Star.

 

[ErenJager]

It wouldn't surprise me if the Wii U version got costume final smashes.

Olimar – Rock Pikmin
Villager – Bee Hive
Megaman – Super Adaptor
Captain Falcon – Super Falcon Punch
Donkey Kong – Coconut Gun
Link – Fierce Deity Link
Falco – Arwing
Toon Link - Bowow

 

[Admiral Pit]

Pit's and Palutena's are my fave, but I do agree that many of the unchanged ones are kinda well... lacking. Personally, DK coulda used a new one the most, along with the clones. I only accept Sheik's clone FS, though she still coulda used another one.

 

[Zwzchow]

Pit's and Palutena's are my fave, but I do agree that many of the unchanged ones are kinda well... lacking. Personally, DK coulda used a new one the most, along with the clones. I only accept Sheik's clone FS, though she still coulda used another one.

Black holes and a giant laser doesn't really fit her personality though. Looks pretty cool!! ^^ (Other than it being incredibly similar to Mega Man's

So happy they revamped Pit's

Just give Dark Pit the lightning chariot or even summoning Pandora and I will be through

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

Megaman's FS gets crowds roaring. Sakurai is learning.

 

[Busterbie]

I think too many of them are just you, going close to another character, using the final smash, some kind of cutscene happens, and the character will get launched of the stage. I really find it disapointing.
Also they seem pretty unbalanced

 

[Booster]

They look great, but unlike Final Smashes, are impossible to pull off. Being able to access the entire arsenal is better then the movies looking good.

 

[Khao]

If we're talking Street Fighter, most of them, even the cool ones are more on the level of Supers rather than Ultras.

We need more super flashy ones with moving cameras and ****.

At the same time, it's hard to do because Smash is a 4 player game, if you want to stop the match for a flashy special move, it needs to happen ****ing fast or you're basically screwing both players not involved in the move.

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

I've always found Final Smashes to be underwhelming. I think that, so long as they are relegated to items and are completely optional, they'll never be given the same kind of work and attention as the characters' core movesets. They don't have to be balanced for general gameplay because they're not considered with that in mind; they're not meant to work alongside the character's moveset. They're essentially glorified, character-specific items.

If Final Smashes worked more like a traditional meter or some sort of variation thereof, I'd expect them to be a little more balanced (and overall more showy).

 

[Knife Myths]

They look great, but unlike Final Smashes, are impossible to pull off. Being able to access the entire arsenal is better then the movies looking good.

SFIV ultras are impossible to pull off? Like in terms of the button combination? It's like three button presses in sequence.

 

[Hydde]

I remember getting 2 Smash Balls at the Best Buy Smash Fest while I was playing as DK. When I used the second FS, I heard a collective sigh coming from the line behind me.
Yet, anytime Mega Man used his FS the line went crazy.

There was a very noticeable difference in hype.
I would like to see more Donkey Kong fan service.

Sadly this. Thats FS and Ganons are the worst in the game IMO. Uninspired, rushed, dull. Ganon specially is a friggin clone of cfalcons...minus the ñittle cutscene. At least DK´s is unique... but being unique is not enought. The example you said about people tired of seeing it is the exat feeling everyone gets when DK is doing it.

Eveeryone wants it to get over quick.

Its sad from a developer point of view...as it was a bad design choice, but it took someones time in creating it and adapting it to the game with codes and sprites etc,,,, but in the end it sucks major balls.

 

[Knife Myths]

Sadly this. Thats FS and Ganons are the worst in the game IMO. Uninspired, rushed, dull. Ganon specially is a friggin clone of cfalcons...minus the ñittle cutscene. .

Ganon's sucks but it's completely different from Falcon's. Before Brawl came out most of us were expecting a copied FS where Ganondorf would run his opponent down in a Winnebago.

 

[KaZe_DaRKWIND]

Sadly this. Thats FS and Ganons are the worst in the game IMO. Uninspired, rushed, dull. Ganon specially is a friggin clone of cfalcons...minus the ñittle cutscene. At least DK´s is unique... but being unique is not enought. The example you said about people tired of seeing it is the exat feeling everyone gets when DK is doing it.

Eveeryone wants it to get over quick.

Its sad from a developer point of view...as it was a bad design choice, but it took someones time in creating it and adapting it to the game with codes and sprites etc,,,, but in the end it sucks major balls.

Doesnt ganons hit the whole screen in the direction he's aiming and captain falcons requires you to get up close and nail them with it. I don't think they're similar at all (Referring the the smash not the characaters.)

And i do think that what I would like most is for everyone's smash to be balanced with everyone elses but I'd rather just get rid of them than have them take up that much development. Really don't want another meta-knight in Smash 4.

 

[Hydde]

Ganon's sucks but it's completely different from Falcon's. Before Brawl came out most of us were expecting a copied FS where Ganondorf would run his opponent down in a Winnebago.

When i refer to the same... i mean the same mechanic, the same principle.
He turns into a giant ganon (a giant blue falcon) and rush to kill peeps.

Why he didnt created a gigantic fireball? or threw multiple deadman volleys to enemies?, or used his swords from windwaker to spin across the stage killing peeps?. Or bombarded the whole screen with a super nova?.

See where im coming from?