Chip.
you know what to do
WARNING!
This information is clearly outdated and I have had much, much more Falcon experience than this as of today. So yeah this info is pretty much lame, but you can always ask me on my other thread if you want more solid advice from me and other players.
Have a good day, thank you
Old lame crap from nearly a year ago now-
Hey, everyone this is Chip and I would just like to say that last Saturday I went to a local tourney and got 2nd and lost to a Falcon player. But not any Falcon player, he was the best Falcon in Washington and is ranked 8th or so overall in the state. His name is R.C. and he was basically undefeated, although I did well in the Finals still almost beating him in my matches.
Anyway, the point of this thread is to talk about Falcon and how to fight him. Falcon is.... stupid. He's a good counter for Young Link and is a difficult matchup.
Basically, in this matchup, you can't make a single mistake or else Falcon will exploit your error and destroy you. Falcon can 0-death combo you if you fall directly in his deathly arials, if your not careful.
Falcon is a Fast-Faller, so that makes him even more dumber than he is already. This means you can't combo to save your life when he's at low %. Once you hit him with a good attack to start comboing, like using the famous Rang to start up a spark, he'll just lump to the ground, Tech, and get away from the rest of your combo.
At the beginning of the match...
Now, at your earlier stages in your %'s, Falcon likes to do a good deal of startup damage with arial->grab. Wheather this be Nair, Uair, or Fair -> grab they all work at low percents.
Arials
Falcon is an arial raving beast, everyone of them are quite effective in their own aspects against Young Link. It's safe to say that about 80% of all your deaths will be inflicted by the Knee. He has insane combos that will all follow up and into arials into a "Knee".
His nair is superb to SHFFL and start up combos. Expect this to be a very common SHFFL of his and that he'll do it quite a lot out of his shield.
His Uair is great to string combos together and finish oppononents off sometimes.
Bair is powerful and can easily kill you with it as an edgeguard if you are not paying much attention.
Dair is a sick attack. You'll see this attack used a lot out've Falcon's shield. He can also mindgame and Tech-chase you with it and, along with his u-throw, it's his best combo starter and the Dair easily leads to an auto-Fair.
Yes...Fair the almighty. His Knee is devastating when it hits you. Falcon's best finishing move expect it used mainly to finish combos, but is sometimes SHFFL'd at you or used as an edgeguard when you're recovering.
Combos
Rawr, throws and arials! DEATH!
His Defense game
Now I should mention some terrible things about his nair and dair especially. What's bad about it? The Dair has lag at the beginning before he juts out his feet for the attack to be in full force AND the Nair is a two point double hit. That means DON'T SPOTDODGE AFTER YOU SHFFL OR ATTACK A SHIELDING FALCON! Never approach Falcon with SHFFL's when he's shielding; spam back and wait for him to come out of his shield instead. If he does block you when you SHFFL a nair at him, then do an up smash after your nair. This will potentially neutralize his dair or nair out of his shield sometimes. Because it's an automatic hit if you do spot dodge.
Grab Game
You should also know that Falcon will probably 90% of the time u-throw you because of combo potential. An easy 0-death combo is uthrow->nair->uair->uair->FAIR=Death.
And at very high %'s he might then d-throw you to pop you up for a Knee.
Falcon likes to Jump-Cancel his grabs to reduce lag. JC Grabs are something Falcon's enjoy doing esp. when they mindgame you with a quick dash back-and-forth and then grab you. You should be able to predict that it's coming pretty easily when he turns his back on you and then instantly dashes back. To stop it, just SHFFL a nair.
How to fight him with Young Link!
At the beginning of the match...
So how to fight him? Well, your Spam game is vital in this battle. Falcon, can't do anything but shield your projectiles and wait. Great Spamming is key to victory, so space them well. But once he sees that the barrage may have slightly stopped, he might charge in for a nair->grab OR dash backwards then back twords you and Jump-Cancel Grab you.
When he does, I suggest you SHFFL or Full-hop Nair in the air which will almost surely hit him, depending if he's on the ground trying to JC grab you OR jump in the air and do an arial.
Arials
Nair will give Falcon a lot of trouble. Nair is great to keep Falcon away from you when he's up in your face. Although, don't randomly just run to him and SHFFL a nair at him, that could get you hurt quite a bit. Nair is also a great killer.
Bair is a great arial against Falcon too. Reverse Shield grabbing OR Bair->reverse up smash is good after bair to do.
Uair comboing ***** Falcon, when you start to get it on him, you can expect a lot of damage from it =D
Use random dairs if he follows you around too much.
Combos
Spam combo whenever you can against Falcon.
Bomb-rang-nair
Uair combos are really good.
Defense Game
Nair is also something very effective against Falcon for protection. Full hop-nairs shields good defense and keeps opponents back when they charge at you for an attack.
DI'ing is VERY IMPORTANT in this match. Those 0-death combos he has can easily be stopped if you have good DI. Whenever Falcon U-throws you, ALWAYS smash DI behind or forward from Falcon's direction because this will negate his super death combo but might instead just land a single Uair on you.
Grab game
One good thing about Falcon being a Fast Faller is that you can Sudo-Chain grab him from 0-30%. That's right, Young Link has a chain grab.... sorta
.
U-throw->*wait for him to touch floor*->grab->U-throw->repeat. Make sure to stall your grab if he starts to catch on to your little game in case he sides step dodges.
When he's about the 100%ish zone, then try d-throws into tech chase grabs or tech chase boomerang.
Then, after you grab and d-throw, try to land a nair on him.
"Finish Him!"
You can actually kill Falcon pretty easily. D-smash his recovery upB. When he's recovering from FAR away, then edgehog him. If he happans to land on the stage, then ledgehop->Dair him. Also, if he tries to jump high up over your head, then Uair him or try and land a Dair. There is also a chance to land a Fire Spike on him. Since Falcon is a big target and he is completely vulnerable during his upB, the Fire Spike's hitbox has a good chance of nailing him if you dair when he's above. If you don't feel comfortable doing this, then stick with hitting him with Uairs.
D-smash severely molests Falcon when you can hit him off the stage.
I reccomend good kill moves like, D-smash, Nair, U-air, F-tilt, and the Bomb Plant. Bomb Plant should kill at around 150% and is simple as pie to do.
Whoo, that felt good to get out of me. I just hoped I can help everyone who's ever fought a nasty Falcon before XP.
Thanx everyone, hoped it helped ^_^
-Chip
This information is clearly outdated and I have had much, much more Falcon experience than this as of today. So yeah this info is pretty much lame, but you can always ask me on my other thread if you want more solid advice from me and other players.
Have a good day, thank you
Old lame crap from nearly a year ago now-
Hey, everyone this is Chip
and I would just like to say that last Saturday I went to a local tourney and got 2nd and lost to a Falcon player. But not any Falcon player, he was the best Falcon in Washington and is ranked 8th or so overall in the state. His name is R.C. and he was basically undefeated, although I did well in the Finals still almost beating him in my matches.Anyway, the point of this thread is to talk about Falcon and how to fight him. Falcon is.... stupid. He's a good counter for Young Link and is a difficult matchup.
Basically, in this matchup, you can't make a single mistake or else Falcon will exploit your error and destroy you. Falcon can 0-death combo you if you fall directly in his deathly arials, if your not careful.
Falcon is a Fast-Faller, so that makes him even more dumber than he is already. This means you can't combo to save your life when he's at low %. Once you hit him with a good attack to start comboing, like using the famous Rang to start up a spark, he'll just lump to the ground, Tech, and get away from the rest of your combo.
At the beginning of the match...
Now, at your earlier stages in your %'s, Falcon likes to do a good deal of startup damage with arial->grab. Wheather this be Nair, Uair, or Fair -> grab they all work at low percents.
Arials
Falcon is an arial raving beast, everyone of them are quite effective in their own aspects against Young Link. It's safe to say that about 80% of all your deaths will be inflicted by the Knee. He has insane combos that will all follow up and into arials into a "Knee".
His nair is superb to SHFFL and start up combos. Expect this to be a very common SHFFL of his and that he'll do it quite a lot out of his shield.
His Uair is great to string combos together and finish oppononents off sometimes.
Bair is powerful and can easily kill you with it as an edgeguard if you are not paying much attention.
Dair is a sick attack. You'll see this attack used a lot out've Falcon's shield. He can also mindgame and Tech-chase you with it and, along with his u-throw, it's his best combo starter and the Dair easily leads to an auto-Fair.
Yes...Fair the almighty. His Knee is devastating when it hits you. Falcon's best finishing move expect it used mainly to finish combos, but is sometimes SHFFL'd at you or used as an edgeguard when you're recovering.
Combos
Rawr, throws and arials! DEATH!
His Defense game
Now I should mention some terrible things about his nair and dair especially. What's bad about it? The Dair has lag at the beginning before he juts out his feet for the attack to be in full force AND the Nair is a two point double hit. That means DON'T SPOTDODGE AFTER YOU SHFFL OR ATTACK A SHIELDING FALCON! Never approach Falcon with SHFFL's when he's shielding; spam back and wait for him to come out of his shield instead. If he does block you when you SHFFL a nair at him, then do an up smash after your nair. This will potentially neutralize his dair or nair out of his shield sometimes. Because it's an automatic hit if you do spot dodge.
Grab Game
You should also know that Falcon will probably 90% of the time u-throw you because of combo potential. An easy 0-death combo is uthrow->nair->uair->uair->FAIR=Death.
And at very high %'s he might then d-throw you to pop you up for a Knee.
Falcon likes to Jump-Cancel his grabs to reduce lag. JC Grabs are something Falcon's enjoy doing esp. when they mindgame you with a quick dash back-and-forth and then grab you. You should be able to predict that it's coming pretty easily when he turns his back on you and then instantly dashes back. To stop it, just SHFFL a nair.
How to fight him with Young Link!
At the beginning of the match...
So how to fight him? Well, your Spam game is vital in this battle. Falcon, can't do anything but shield your projectiles and wait. Great Spamming is key to victory, so space them well. But once he sees that the barrage may have slightly stopped, he might charge in for a nair->grab OR dash backwards then back twords you and Jump-Cancel Grab you.
When he does, I suggest you SHFFL or Full-hop Nair in the air which will almost surely hit him, depending if he's on the ground trying to JC grab you OR jump in the air and do an arial.
Arials
Nair will give Falcon a lot of trouble. Nair is great to keep Falcon away from you when he's up in your face. Although, don't randomly just run to him and SHFFL a nair at him, that could get you hurt quite a bit
. Nair is also a great killer.Bair is a great arial against Falcon too. Reverse Shield grabbing OR Bair->reverse up smash is good after bair to do.
Uair comboing ***** Falcon, when you start to get it on him, you can expect a lot of damage from it =D
Use random dairs if he follows you around too much.
Combos
Spam combo whenever you can against Falcon.
Bomb-rang-nair
Uair combos are really good.
Defense Game
Nair is also something very effective against Falcon for protection. Full hop-nairs shields good defense and keeps opponents back when they charge at you for an attack.
DI'ing is VERY IMPORTANT in this match. Those 0-death combos he has can easily be stopped if you have good DI. Whenever Falcon U-throws you, ALWAYS smash DI behind or forward from Falcon's direction because this will negate his super death combo but might instead just land a single Uair on you.
Grab game
One good thing about Falcon being a Fast Faller is that you can Sudo-Chain grab him from 0-30%. That's right, Young Link has a chain grab.... sorta
.U-throw->*wait for him to touch floor*->grab->U-throw->repeat. Make sure to stall your grab if he starts to catch on to your little game in case he sides step dodges.
When he's about the 100%ish zone, then try d-throws into tech chase grabs or tech chase boomerang.
Then, after you grab and d-throw, try to land a nair on him.
"Finish Him!"
You can actually kill Falcon pretty easily. D-smash his recovery upB. When he's recovering from FAR away, then edgehog him. If he happans to land on the stage, then ledgehop->Dair him. Also, if he tries to jump high up over your head, then Uair him or try and land a Dair. There is also a chance to land a Fire Spike on him. Since Falcon is a big target and he is completely vulnerable during his upB, the Fire Spike's hitbox has a good chance of nailing him if you dair when he's above. If you don't feel comfortable doing this, then stick with hitting him with Uairs.
D-smash severely molests Falcon when you can hit him off the stage.
I reccomend good kill moves like, D-smash, Nair, U-air, F-tilt, and the Bomb Plant. Bomb Plant should kill at around 150% and is simple as pie to do.
Whoo, that felt good to get out of me
. I just hoped I can help everyone who's ever fought a nasty Falcon before XP.Thanx everyone, hoped it helped ^_^
-Chip
