Fast and Evil PLEASE!

[limitbreak]

Ive read some posts about how its unfair that all the evils (bowser, ganondorf, etc) were all slow. Unfortunately there were only really 2 or 3 bad guys in melee. Hopefully new villains are introduced to brawl but with a twist, they are faster! Personally, I would much rather play with a fast good guy then a slow bad guy. Even though were most likely not going to see a Shadow or Wolf, think of how cool it would be. My challenge: name some quick bad guys that could be in brawl!

 

[Hejiru]

Shadow? I dunno. Why is it most villians in any game, not just smash bros, are slow?

 

[Zek]

Uh, Meta Knight? He may not be "fast" but he certainly isn't a heavyweight.

 

[limitbreak]

Thats my point though. Most of them are slow but there are the occasional fast enemy or final boss. In my opinion, they are much cooler and more challenging. Also, they dont have to be extremely fast but im sick of the slow yet powerful villains.

EDIT: Only characters that havent been confirmed.

 

[Darqion]

Meta knight might not be a pure nice guy, but he surely is not truelly evil. Even the wiki page says that

 

[Masterem243]

Meta Knight is more of an anti-hero. If Ridley shows up, he'll probably be quick, due to the wings.

 

[Caleb Wolfbrand]

I really wish Mewtwo would be fast : (

 

[Masterem243]

Well, he's not. Wolf O' Donnell will probably be fast, but Dedede'll probably be a medium speed character.

 

[Caleb Wolfbrand]

Doesn't mean Mewtwo can't be revamped completely. Which he needs.

He has a pretty high speed in the pokemon games. I don't see why he should be so slow in Smash. But then again he may not return at all.

 

[Masterem243]

Mewtwo has a high probability of returning. There's a possibility that he can be revamped, or not. And he was very fast in the movies. That was what made him so cool.

 

[limitbreak]

Yes exactly. I dont understand why they cant balance out some fast evils with all the slow ones.

 

[Masterem243]

But there's a guarentee that if Ridley shows up, he'll probably be fast.

 

[:034:]

Claus, the Masked Man from MOTHER 3. I believe he was the main antagonist, though I could be wrong. But I'd say he could be fast. Bowser Jr. could be quick too, but I guess he could also not be quick... And then there's Ridley and Dark Samus. That's all I can think of for now..

 

[Masterem243]

There could be a possibility of Claus showing up, but then again....Mother 3's never showed the light of day in America. So I'm not so sure about Claus.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Wolf from Star Fox
Masked Man from Mother3
An obvious Metaknight

 

[GaryCXJk]

There is a reason why main bosses are never really that fast.

They're powerhouses. They represent pure power. There has never been an ultimate boss who had to give up power for speed. Even though speed is as important, one can only focus on one aspect. That's the rule of the game. If an enemy isn't strong, it's fast, and if it isn't fast, it's strong.

And Meta Knight was never the bad guy.

 

[Masterem243]

Bowser becomes a speed character when he's in that car thing, and Meta Knight is the boss before the final boss.

 

[limitbreak]

There is a reason why main bosses are never really that fast.

They're powerhouses. They represent pure power. There has never been an ultimate boss who had to give up power for speed. Even though speed is as important, one can only focus on one aspect. That's the rule of the game. If an enemy isn't strong, it's fast, and if it isn't fast, it's strong.

And Meta Knight was never the bad guy.

Unfortunately your right but like I said, there have been bosses with speed. When i think about a fast evil guy i see a crazy fast ninja with dual wielding swords. Now why cant we get one of those?? lol

 

[Pieman0920]

Most villains by their nature are slower than their hero counterparts. Metaknight seems to be a exception to this rule, but then again, people always fuss over his role now don't they? Anyways, as for the other pottential villains.

Ridley: Ridley will probably be fastish. He is skinny and has wings, so you'd think he'd be fast. For that matter you'd think he'd be light. Of course he could also be heavy and slow due to his nature, so it's a hard bet on him.

Dedede: He screams slow. Not as slow as say Bowser, but he'd still have to be slow. Maybe at around Wario's speed. (Wario's actually not that slow, it's just people think he is due to the apperance)

Wolf: I doubt Wolf's getting in at all, but if he did, he'd be slower than Fox. He could still be somewhat fast though...but I doubt anything beyond Link or Samus.

Mainly all the other villains have worse chances, and mostly are all slower than their heroes of their games. Seeing Sakurai's nostalgic take on Sonic, I really doubt he'd waste the third third party spot on Shadow. =/

 

[limitbreak]

Most villains by their nature are slower than their hero counterparts. Metaknight seems to be a exception to this rule, but then again, people always fuss over his role now don't they? Anyways, as for the other pottential villains.

Ridley: Ridley will probably be fastish. He is skinny and has wings, so you'd think he'd be fast. For that matter you'd think he'd be light. Of course he could also be heavy and slow due to his nature, so it's a hard bet on him.

Dedede: He screams slow. Not as slow as say Bowser, but he'd still have to be slow. Maybe at around Wario's speed. (Wario's actually not that slow, it's just people think he is due to the apperance)

Wolf: I doubt Wolf's getting in at all, but if he did, he'd be slower than Fox. He could still be somewhat fast though...but I doubt anything beyond Link or Samus.

Mainly all the other villains have worse chances, and mostly are all slower than their heroes of their games. Seeing Sakurai's nostalgic take on Sonic, I really doubt he'd waste the third third party spot on Shadow. =/

You made a great post with some interesting points. Im still hoping for that quick evil character that i can choose tho. Thanks again!

 

[Jammer]

Definitely Ridley came to mind. Remember how he kind of flew around Samus in the intro to Melee (I think--I haven't watched it in a while). He looked pretty fast, and he'd definitely be a larger character if he was in.

If Bowser Jr. is in, which I really doubt, he'd be fast, like Young Link.

Also, being slow and ponderous is part of the stereotypical video-game boss persona. While fast bad guys are definitely cool, it's just not nearly as common, I believe.