falcon off the stage, what to do against marth ledgeguarding?

[ButcherCat]

whem i'm off the stage with flacon, what can i do to come back to the stage against marth?
even when i jump with up-b in such a perfection that i just get the legde, his smash still hits me. so what can i do?

 

[`DNS`]

DI up and in, ASDI in if you can, and falcon kick helps recovery (gives you your jump back)

Learn to tech the ledge, and overshooting the ledge by a lot (if possible) is good to get back on the stage

Falcon is notorious for his moves "bad" recovery, because it's so easily edgeguarded. The obvious answer is DON'T GET knocked offstage HIT

 

[Lightning Tiger]

Sweet spot the ledge.
tech the ledge.

Everything else results in a gimp.

 

[Winston]

Falcon's recovery vs Marth seems impossible until your DI gets better. With bad DI you will often end up below the stage when recovering, and you can't get back unless Marth screws up. If you are recovering from above the stage, Marth has to guess where you're going to go, and if you go far into the stage anything short of a tipper fsmash won't send you completely off.

If you are recovering from below the stage hugging the edge, though, and Marth uses exclusively fsmash to edgeguard, you can pretty much tech that every time.

 

[Tee ay eye]

respawn, grab him, uthrow knee, even game

 

[Animal]

try to overshoot the ledge anitcipate getting fsmashed back out with a ****load of smash DI and do work

 

[yummynbeefy]

PRAY

ORRRR when your coming up the stage SDI and ledge tech

but still offstage against marth is a nightmare either way its a freakin answered prayer to get back on the stage against a marth as falcon

 

[Nakamaru]

If you can, try to recover as high and as far in on the stage as possible against marth. Patient marth's will still get ya, but even if you get hit you'll still have a better chance at recovery than getting hit by the ledge.

So pretty much just elaborating what DNS said.

 

[megapup]

you can't do much more than DI well, ledge tech and perfect recovery. try to make him mis-time his smash by falcon diving before your second jump finishes. other than that, just accept your death if you get hit fair enough off the ledge and come back and knee this **** out of him.

respawn, grab him, uthrow knee, even game

this^

EDIT: remember when you are close enough to dodge onto the stage instead of falcon dive

 

[Roneblaster]

tech

sorry for the one word answer, but thats your best hope.

 

[Hax]

up-b as high as u can, never down-b or a single fsmash kills you

 

[legion598]

high up Bs, side b onto platforms when u cant get Fsmashed, ledge tech, air dodge, fast fall to ledge grab, never give up

 

[PEEF!]

Raptor boost only

 

[Mizar]

up-b as high as u can, never down-b or a single fsmash kills you

Most likely this. You can adjust the falling a bit to avoid fatal blows. Respond to the hit you get after you land. DI depending on the attack. If very high %, try DI down and tech.

 

[CalamityofCox]

just navigate around that.

 

[Laem]

recover high, ledgecancel, upair knee, taunt

 

[P.C. Jona]

if your close enough air dodge past him, the worst thing that can happen is you get grabbed but marths grabs sucks

 

[FireFly]

if you're close you can double jump back then uair to throw them off.

 

[n0ne]

yup . what the guy above said. Dont be reckless and ALWAYS use falcon kick just so u arrive faster to the stage. If u can, its best to just double jump to the stage