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GOOD STUFF man always love your videos!
Wait so it's still not normal landing lag? I believe you said that in the video. Also, this still only applies to FF Dairs right?
You have to FF it to get it on the frame that Falco lands and the hitbox comes out at the same time, and that hitbox has to connect with your opponent at that same moment.
In the video he says you need to FF AFTER the first frame hits, and I was trying that for hours but I realized that if you FF WHILE doing the dair you'll hit your target and get the cancel.
I don't think it has to be a spike because Bowser Jr. can also cancel his Dair under the same conditions.
Ganon has them? That's sick! So Falcon too right? Where is there a list of every character that can do it?
There isn't a list, but there is a discussion in the competitive boards: http://smashboards.com/threads/frame-cancel.386639/.
Thanks
I merged your thread with Izaw's thread on Falco's Dair cancel. First thing of note: please try to search for whatever your topic is with the search bar and try asking here in the general discussion and Q&A thread: http://smashboards.com/threads/falco-king-of-the-birds-game-play-discussion.367184/, instead of making a thread specifically to ask for something. If there is completely no information about something, so a new, but perhaps undocumented discovery, then sure, make a thread, but for questions, please try and search for a topic related to it and if there isn't one, then ask in the general discussion and Q&A thread.
I merged your thread with Izaw's thread on Falco's Dair cancel. First thing of note: please try to search for whatever your topic is with the search bar and try asking here in the general discussion and Q&A thread: http://smashboards.com/threads/falco-king-of-the-birds-game-play-discussion.367184/, instead of making a thread specifically to ask for something. If there is completely no information about something, so a new, but perhaps undocumented discovery, then sure, make a thread, but for questions, please try and search for a topic related to it and if there isn't one, then ask in the general discussion and Q&A thread.
Second thing of note: Falco's Dair has 23 landing frames not 11. The closest Falco's Dair had to 11 landing frames was in Brawl where it was 12 and in Melee where L-canceled Dair had 9. I can't explain the timing, but a more in-depth study on it is here on Smashboards: http://smashboards.com/threads/frame-syncing.434603/, to help you understand how it works. The researchers decided to call it frame syncing instead of frame canceling since you're not canceling anything... The Smash community has a weird fixation on calling a lot of stuff cancels when they're not like jab cancels... You're not actually canceling anything; you're just not going into the next part of a jab. If there was a cancel, the recovery would not exist and you would be able to immediately move into another move like in Brawl where Falco could cancel dash attack into Up Smash or in Smash 4 where Ryu could cancel jab, light Utilt, and light Dtilt into any of his Specials. Anyway, I digress. I'd like to summarize it, but I feel lazy.
Do you mean here: https://youtu.be/spHWz-9F7cQ?t=17? Izaw, what on Earth are you talking about? I am not tagging him because the video is old, but maybe I should since it's misinformation. Falco's Dair has 23 landing frames; I have no idea where and how Izaw decided it had 11 frames. The only thing I can think of is that he took hit stun into account which you shouldn't since that's not landing lag; that's on-hit advantage. If Falco's Dair had 11 landing frames, it would be godplayer compared to its current 23 frames even with its 16 frame startup.
