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Yeah like, I'm not an XC2 fan but I still want to play Torna just to see what it's like. There's been some mild annoyance about people who forget Elma exists or about the X haters but apart from some "I don't enjoy 2 for this reason" I'm not seeing much toxicity outside of a few things Mistaros mentioned. But like, idk. I see more talking about toxicity than actual toxicity.
Torna is probably my second favorite Xenoblade behind X. It's like they took the core of XC2's battle system, refined it, and added more strategic options. Combat is fun after 1-2 hours as opposed to 20+ hours. Areas are less confusing, it's more clear where to go for side quests, tips/important how to play info can be seen in the menu, next to no fan-service (aside from Mythra/Brighid having the same outfits), just things seem faster, better, and less annoying in general. I didn't end up caring too much for the story, the music is a bit of a step down, and I still dislike the English dub, but I loved the combat system immensely and the side quests were enjoyable.
If I may add, I feel Vergeben also ruins DLC speculation, because if you follow the leaks, 3 out of 5 DLC slots could already be filled and even though imo the only real missing characters that represented a major part of Nintendo history were Ridley and K.rool, there are still a few support groups left that existed since Melee or the Brawl days, but some of those people are obssessed with deserving or franchise sales and those people tend to have a bias against Xenoblade and Fire Emblem in general and the DLC characters that Vergeben mentioned are very anti hype imo, minus maybe the Square rep.
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Incineroar is more something that flew under the radar, but when Vergeben brought him up and if you started to delve deeper, the puzzelpieces felt in place, because he always was the starter Gamefreak wanted to push, but he is offcourse a reverse Greninja.However, Vergeben never said those three characters. Just that he kinda sorta trusts the person who said it. He never backed up any of her claims, so for all we know she could be another Loz18. Actually, at this point, loz could be considered MORE credible then her because we know for a fact he did have info at some point while Hitagi has yet to prove herself beyond "Vergeben kinda knows me"If I may add, I feel Vergeben also ruins DLC speculation, because if you follow the leaks, 3 out of 5 DLC slots could already be filled and even though imo the only real missing characters that represented a major part of Nintendo history were Ridley and K.rool, there are still a few support groups left that existed since Melee or the Brawl days, but some of those people are obssessed with deserving or franchise sales and those people tend to have a bias against Xenoblade and Fire Emblem in general and the DLC characters that Vergeben mentioned are very anti hype imo, minus maybe the Square rep.
He trusts her though and Vergeben showed that he will only go 100% on confirmation if enough of his sources line up with it.
I wouldn't get your hopes up too much, the DLC hasn't even started development yet, it's way too early for them to be recording lines.
It makes 0 sense for it to be for Elma. Either they bring her in as the current voice actor and therefore no audition, or they're redoing the voices for the game (something which does not sound very Sakurai/Smash like at all) in which case it makes no sense for her to be the reference for it (otherwise they wouldn't be changing).
There could be a chance that they made it an audition so they could do a fakeout? Maybe to diverge attention and make us believe it's not it. Although that thought is kinda stretching it.
Yep. Hopefully fans don't read too much into it. Pestering her would be troublesome.
Yeah he bought a mech to use its rifle as a reference for his new project, which was Smash, and if the DLC really was being made in 2015 then it might have been used as a reference to Elma. However, I don't personally think it was; I bet he was considering which DLC characters should be in back then but he 100% didn't start work on then at all; it goes against his M.O. Also the gun seems way tok big to be one of Elma's dual guns tbh
It's to model the poses for the newcomers when they hold the superscope.
When was that ever stated? And why would he only need that now, for the newcomers in this game, and not at any point before?
Then why would she tweet it?
But the point is that they were already reshuffling the whole lineup, that's an entirely different situation that you're ignoring.
Isn't Caitlin Glass in general a high profile voice actor to?
Yeah, it's not comparable, and again I absolutely do not think this is an Elma thing. Like at all. But as someone who has worked in VO, it's not entirely unusual to recast or have someone try out for the same role again. It was just the quickest comparison I could think of.
I don't really get the distaste a lot of people seem to have towards the soundtrack. The only song I ever actually hear people complain about is the NLA night theme.
They didn't say they disliked it. They just said it wasn't their favorite.
I know, I'm just making conversation.
That cover is one of my favorite things ever, I love it so much.
I also really don't like the the standard battle theme and not a big fan of Day NLA. And they are probably the most common songs in the game.
Well, I made a moveset for Elma some time ago on this thread, if that's anything.
That's not bad, but I have a bit off a different vision for that. The attributes I'd keep pretty much the same (although I'm not sure about whether she'd really be suitable for being a fast faller).
The NLA themes are very different from the rest of the games themes (a bit more urban) but that doesn't make them bad - I do prefer the Day theme just because it's more upbeat, but the Night theme has a smooth bass line to it and steel guitar.
I bought this version on iTunes - his accent definitely comes through, but I like the rockier drum beat behind it and the intro more than the original. I'd love to hear an official remix for Smash.
It seems like we'll have to unlock a bit of XC1 tracks, as the screen where they showed the XC2 songs had some XC1 songs missing (I might be wrong on this, some guy on Discord was talking about it and I haven't verified it myself)
