Edge Hop Waveland

[Kashakunaki]

I'm curious as to how everyone else does it because I'm sure some methods are quicker and overall better than others. I have a hard time doing it quick enough to maintain my invincibility frames long enough to get an edge. So feel free to share.

The way I've been doing it is I just drop with the control stick, jump with X, and airdodge with R. I obviously fastfall this way, so should I do it another way? With the c-stick? Or is this method good enough if you can do it quickly?

Just some advice, tips, and what everyone else does would be nice. Thanks in advance.

 

[PDOT]

Umm how would you go about doing it with the C-Stick?

:S

 

[Ronin686]

drop with the control stick, jump with X, and airdodge with R.

That's exactly how I do it.

 

[Kashakunaki]

Umm how would you go about doing it with the C-Stick?

:S

With the C-Stick if you hit away from the edge quickly (don't hold it) you simply drop slowly. This allows you to DJ and air dodge or DJ and do an attack quickly. Captain Falcon players do this often, to my knowledge. I just find it a little cumbersome.

 

[Dogysamich]

i drop down with the analog stick, jump with y, airdodge with r.

Standard stuff.

Keeping frames doesnt depend on the actual speed that you do this, but how fast you get off the ledge once you grab it.

I was watchin some bob money matches last week, and i remember that if you blinked you missed him grabbing the ledge. >.<

 

[Yomi]

Yeah, DogySamich has it right. You don't get the invincibility frames simply for leaving the ledge, you need to hold on to the invincibility frames you got for grabbing the ledge. Work on the timing of that and then a standard appraoch to the edgehop waveland should work.

 

[Gea]

i drop down with the analog stick, jump with y, airdodge with r.

Standard stuff.

Keeping frames doesnt depend on the actual speed that you do this, but how fast you get off the ledge once you grab it.

I was watchin some bob money matches last week, and i remember that if you blinked you missed him grabbing the ledge. >.<

Same for me, basically. But I love uairing -> JC usmash from the edge when I can.

 

[Kashakunaki]

Yeah, DogySamich has it right. You don't get the invincibility frames simply for leaving the ledge, you need to hold on to the invincibility frames you got for grabbing the ledge. Work on the timing of that and then a standard appraoch to the edgehop waveland should work.

I realize that, but if you are slow on getting back up you are going to lose those frames.

I guess I'll just keep practicing.

 

[Dogysamich]

I realize that, but if you are slow on getting back up you are going to lose those frames.

I guess I'll just keep practicing.

that's what im trying to say.

You dont need to have like, frameperfect movement getting over the ledge, you just need to be faster getting OFF the ledge.

meaning, it doesnt matter how fast you jump and airdodge, it matters how fast you ledgehop when you initally grab the ledge.

So what im tryin to say is, you really dont need to practice the actual waveland animation, you need to practice ledgehoping off as fast as possible.

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I know im talkin in circles, but i actually didnt realize this till a few weeks ago when i was checkin out bob$. I've found out that you can have a retardedly big and sloppy waveland. That's actually safer than having a frameperfect one. >.<

 

[Gea]

Yeah, definitely. Sometimes it just isn't initial reaction to immediately ledgehop. That's what should become reflex.

 

[x4FoSho4x]

Just ledge hop wave land fast. its easy man cmon! lol

 

[Dogysamich]

yeah, till that one time jump a lil too late and then

WHAM, AIRDODGE TO YOUR DEATH.

then you get all sad

I hate when it happens. One day i'll learn. :/

 

[Kashakunaki]

that's what im trying to say.

You dont need to have like, frameperfect movement getting over the ledge, you just need to be faster getting OFF the ledge.

meaning, it doesnt matter how fast you jump and airdodge, it matters how fast you ledgehop when you initally grab the ledge.

So what im tryin to say is, you really dont need to practice the actual waveland animation, you need to practice ledgehoping off as fast as possible.

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I know im talkin in circles, but i actually didnt realize this till a few weeks ago when i was checkin out bob$. I've found out that you can have a retardedly big and sloppy waveland. That's actually safer than having a frameperfect one. >.<

Okay, I see what you are saying now, and that makes sense. I already do that almost as fast as possible; I went into slow motion to see when is the earliest time you can drop from the ledge, but yeah, I get what you're saying now. Thanks.

 

[Dogysamich]

No problem. Just tryin to make sure we understand cause i've been on the "other side" too.

I was all about tryin to get the frameperfect wavelands. And got constant suicides. And recently i've been slowing down on the wavelands. Sure you end up with less time for frames, but realistically, you're either gunna attack when you get up or roll, most likely. >.<

So, imo, you can afford to take the little loss of invinciblity and be aight. But again, that's just my opinion; dont take it to heart. >.<

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If you get frameperfect wavelands, everytime, blindfolded with 1 arm tied behind your back; while using a DDR pad, by all means. Milk that ****. :-D

I wish i was as good as you.

 

[Matador]

I personally don't drop with the analog on the edge, I push backward instead. That way I don't fastfall and I'm not as far away from the edge when I go to waveland.