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Maybe I'm biased, but in a competitive setting, I wouldn't really add Link to that list. His projectiles are highly punishable if used incorrectly, and because of his weaknesses he isn't as easy to play as some characters who don't have as many.
I like that you use Falco...don't see that often. He was my favorite from Melee and Brawl...and then Smash 4 happened. I still play as him, but not as a main, sadly.
is by far the easiest. Not only his combos, but his attack recovery and damage per attack is devastating! is a little underrated, but he combos well. He is one of the easier characters to acclimate to. is also a little underrated. He has some great grab combos and can punish well.
Fox? Low skill ceiling? Grab combos? None of those make sense. Not only is Fox one of the more difficult characters, he has one of the higher skill ceilings, and beyond 10%, he can only combo out of grabs against heavies who DI poorly.
These characters have a low skill ceiling, but can get the job done.
I'm saying as maybe a character that you want to learn the game with. Definitely by far isn't viable in competitive play but isn't exactly the hardest character to learn if you just started playing the game. I remember when I first started playing Melee I used Link because he wasn't hard to control but wasn't even close to the best character. Link just helped me get into other characters.
I heard that you need to be good at mashing for luigi's down b? I'm bad at that in other games so idk. I play falcon right now. I feel like I'm improving with punishing all the defensive options in different scenarios, tomahawking, and empty hopping. Still need a lot of improvement with disadvantage state and neutral. I think I will try to learn mario. vanilla villager is really hard to learn haha
No, I wouldn't. I think
has a much higher skill ceiling in terms of learning him. He doesn't have the speed or the grab combos that Mario has.
rosalina isn't easy.
Shiek is harder than Rosa lmao
While I agree Fox is underrated, there is absolutely no way he is in competition with the easier characters for skill ceiling. He has a steeper learning curve than 80% of the cast at least. As someone else already mentioned, he has no killing/comboing throws. His throws gain positional advantage to do something with his ridiculous movement, he doesn't get guaranteed combos off them for free damage.
These characters have a low skill ceiling, but can get the job done.
what. Marth doesn't have many combos and actually takes more spacing than most characters, def one of the hardest characters to play
These characters have a low skill ceiling, but can get the job done.
rosalina has worse recovery, has to protect and keep luma alive, and that is a long 12 seconds when luma dies before it comes back. And while luma is dead you lose 2 specials. Also rosalina requires expert spacing and awareness of placement and character distance to be effective. If she's so easy why are there so many more shieks than rosaslina's?
I see the same amount of Rosalina and Shiek. Shiek has a harder time killing, Rosalina can kill at like 40. Rosalina has much jankier hitboxs and 12 seconds on luma respawn should be longer.
luma can kill early rosalina can't. and the respawn is fine. luma can't recovery offstage out of tumble.
> Rosalina can't kill early
Only really reliable on halberd.
maybe at 40 but still kills super early on other stages
It happens sometimes on stages like bf and FD but not often enough to actually be reliable. You also have to have Luma hit and be close to the top blast zone or uair just won't kill.
even then Rosalina has a much easier time killing than Shiek, with much better smash attacks.
Are you add rage effect to kill at 40%? I'm just curious.
40% isn't an exact metric. I meant it as, it kills super early and is really janky due to disjointed hitbox and weird knockback.
I think its more about which characters have a low skill floor, like its pretty easy to use Mario and to learn his combos and his spacing tools.
I disagree with this. Peach and villager for example take a lot more practice than other characters, because they are so unorthodox. Pac man as well. To utilize these characters properly, you have to be really used to their unique options like floating, working with items, fruit, proper autocanceling and picking smart and mixed up options. Also these harder characters often have moves that are very bad compared to the rest of the cast's same moves. Their grab might suck, their jab/tilts/aerials might be unsafe, certain smashes could be extremely situational, etc. Not having a good grab is especially rough in this game.
you have some vendetta against Roy or something? he isn't that easy. at least not nearly as much as luigi is
