Do you find Ganondorf difficult to play against bad players?

[Enderwoman]

Because I sure do. This may sound strange, but hear me out here.

Ganondorf's playstyle revolves around reading your opponent and punishing their actions, so my mindset when playing as him is tailored toward expecting the enemy to cover their best options and punish accordingly. However, players who are worse at the game than I am never seem to do this, and while I'm expecting them to throw out a good option they do something stupid which throws me off and lands them free hits on me. Knowing I'm facing someone who obviously is not going to play smartly, I then have to change my mindset to a more offensive Dorf, which is pretty difficult for me to do. This happens to me alot on For Glory.

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

[redcometchar]

Sure, Ganon gets cheesed easy, but good players will cheese Ganon just as easily as, if not more than, bad ones. If a bad player is cheesing you out dont over estimate him/her or respect thier options.

If you are always getting mixed up then that player isn't so bad, no matter how stupid each action is individually.

Alternitavely if a player chooses the same option over and over again, unless you cant cover or arent covering it, the player isnt that good, no matter how good the option is.

 

[Z1GMA]

A player that is "worse on paper" than his opponent, can still win if his playstyle/gameplan is your cryptonite.
This is the beauty of smash.
In the long run, you'll adapt and beat him, but in a tourney, it might be too late.

 

[jmanup85]

On FG sure because of slight input delay and things like that. But even then the bad players have really bad habits that you should be able to capitalize on very easily assuming the lag isn't atrocious. In person if I play bad players they just get the beating of their life.

 

[Vermanubis]

This is a particular problem in games like Street Fighter. There's a lot to be said for someone who behaves unpredictably. But yeah, as Ganon in particular, a character who needs to have reasonably explicit knowledge of what's coming next, someone who's just gyrating their butt on their controller's going to be frustrating to play because everything's going to feel tremendously sloppy.

 

[Wintropy]

Oh yeah. And it's not just Ganondorf, either: a lot of the characters I play need to read the opponent and react accordingly. When somebody does something so abhorrently, inconceivably, absurdly, unmitigatedly wrong that it just knocks me off course, I panic and start to toss out empty moves left, right and center until I eventually clamber back onto a balanced form again.

Crafty devils, I tells ya. :3

 

[Blobface]

I personally find it pretty easy since bad players usually have a lot of painfully exploitable habits. That's when you start styling with your Volvic kick.
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I'm going to shout "Come on world I'll have you for breakfast!" every single time I do U-tilt now.

 

[Z1GMA]

This is a particular problem in games like Street Fighter.

Ya, and even worse in Tekken. Yuck! So Button Mash Friendly.

 

[Dark Phazon]

I kinda get what you mean...not exzactly bad..but patient...because alot of the time i pre time my attacks so to read or pre determine because ganons really slow.

But against a patient player that doesnt hardly roll dodge it can be a pain.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Sometimes as Ganon you might drop a few games due to his inconsistent design. So no, it's not just you.

But I never get tired of gimping For Glory Link players.

 

[Shogger]

I dunno. Usually that just means I can rely on really simple stuff like throwing them offstage and Uair gimping, or just repeatedly Flame Choke Dtilting them until they die. There's being unpredictable, and then there's being just plain bad.

 

[Z1GMA]

Also, Usmash Baiting is your friend against those players.

 

[MagiusNecros]

If they suck you can probably rush in and kick their ass. It's all a matter of getting in their head.

 

[Tino]

It could go either way for me since I haven't spent much time playing as him.

 

[_Magus_]

Honestly, against a bad player, I have a MUCH easier time with Ganondorf. The most glaring thing about why bad players are easier is that they will often give you free stocks by not knowing about the Ganocide. Also, you can throw them into a panic with a good long chain choke. If they play dead on the ground to try to escape, just side smash into the ground XD

 

[Purin a.k.a. José]

Nope. It allows me to style more on their heads!

 

[MisterDom]

It depends on what you mean by 'bad'

I certainly run into players who just have the options to beat Ganon or other low tier characters I play and they're trash. Some players can really get away with anything, and lag+FD won't help. At least I'm able to beat them in tournament thanks to platform stages which ruin theyre options. Normal bad players are just bad and beaten...

 

[Dark Phazon]

Not really...this guy litreally suicided...