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Do Pokémon fans hate change?

Rick Sure

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I like it when the games change because it adds something new and fresh to the games. I have hard time going back to some older games because I like the new mechanics that much. (Gen 3 and your physical/special ridiculousness=RAGE!) Also, @ MajinBuu272 MajinBuu272 , that profile picture is awesome. Miror B all the way!
 

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lol, thnx, Mirror B. is why Ludicolo is my favorite pokemon :cyclops:

and yes, change is improvement, and improvement is good, so change=good....
(glad gen 4 (i think) made the spcial and physical changes, #1 resaon i dont play before gen 4 very often)
 

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People will ***** about change and then when innovation happens they ***** about too much change
*see Gen 3
Moral is, people will ***** over anything and everything
 
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Nope. In fact, I'm losing interest in the franchise because it hasn't changed enough. I had to force myself to beat Alpha Sapphire.
 

Quillion

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Nope. In fact, I'm losing interest in the franchise because it hasn't changed enough. I had to force myself to beat Alpha Sapphire.

Exactly. I hate all these dumb Pokémon fans who complain about these changes, only to be blind to the fact that Pokémon hasn't changed enough.
 

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Non-fanatical Poke'mon fans hate bad changes.

Nobody in their right mind will defend the atrocity that was Gen5's Dream World flash " games " to receive Dream World Abilities.
 

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Nope. In fact, I'm losing interest in the franchise because it hasn't changed enough. I had to force myself to beat Alpha Sapphire.
I get the feeling that it might be more that ORAS was just kinda... okay I guess? One of my friends and I had a conversation about this last night, but there was just something to ORAS that made the entire experience pretty damn underwhelming. They managed to make Hoenn feel tiny, the extremely varied environments forgettable, entirely because if you have to go anywhere you've already been they just have your rival teleport you there. Not only that, but they made the leaders cartoonishly unappealing (I am not a fan of the redesigned teams, btw), made the soundtrack less memorable, I feel like the lowered the overall difficultly on top of that.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot that I liked in ORAS but I feel like the game just didn't come together as an overall package very well.
 

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because people in general hate change
 

Omegascizor456

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I honestly want some change for pokemon... But in the same way i am perfectly content with the way it is now! Pokemon was the first video game i ever played and overall i put more time into pokemon games every year than any other game... and that says something about me!
 

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I would love change. Having more than 1 save file, having more options to choose as a starter (zigzagoon and other easily found wild pokemon like poocheyna. I loved when mega evolution came in Gen 6 and kinda wished more pokemon had it. In conclusion I love change but the fandom might not.
 

Heroine of Winds

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I'm okay with change just as long as they don't change the gameplay all that much. However, there are some things they could easily change like having another save file, for example. Talking about ORAS here, I do agree that some of the changes made the game feel underwhelming compared to the original GBA version. One major thing I hated about ORAS was how stupidly easy it is. Pokemon X/Y had this problem, too. I'm not a huge fan of the redesigns for some of the characters like how some of the Team members look or how some of the gym leaders look. Some of them either look weird or just look derpy to me. The soundtrack's fine, but compared to the original, it's not all that memorable because there's no trumpets.

Pokemon does need some change, but not to the gameplay itself. I honestly think the formula needs to change. I know they've been doing this in recent years, but the formula from way back in Gen 1 is still there. That's probably the only thing I wanted to change majorly.

The people who don't like change are just purists. They rather play their poorly aged Gen 1 games instead (I can only play the GBA remakes because of how dated the originals were).
 
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If you ask me, Nintendo just needs to rid of the turn-based battle system entirely; it's not helpful for much anymore and it doesn't show off the system's abilities well.

And make more of the Pokemon ridable aside from Gogoat and it's evolution, and make them rideable anywhere. Because who wouldn't love riding around on a Tyrantrum, Aggron or Venusaur? :p
 

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The soundtrack's fine, but compared to the original, it's not all that memorable because there's no trumpets.
I actually unironically agree with you. Maybe its because I'm a grumpy old twentysomething year old, but I don't get whats with the kid and their wub wub music.

Seriously, though. ORAS soundtrack was way too 10s for my tastes. I actually liked the "HORNS NOTHING BUT HORNS" OST. At least it was memorable and distinct. ORAS' OST sounds like it could have been any fan remix from the last five years.
 

Heroine of Winds

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I actually unironically agree with you. Maybe its because I'm a grumpy old twentysomething year old, but I don't get whats with the kid and their wub wub music.

Seriously, though. ORAS soundtrack was way too 10s for my tastes. I actually liked the "HORNS NOTHING BUT HORNS" OST. At least it was memorable and distinct. ORAS' OST sounds like it could have been any fan remix from the last five years.
Because wub wub music's where it's at, yo!

But seriously, the original GBA soundtrack was probably the best Pokemon OST, imo. The music made stuff like the battles feel more epic. ORAS's soundtrack, though? Way too 2010's for me to fully like it. Some of the music's okay, but half of it feels less memorable to me.
 

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It's interesting that you guys feel that way about the ORAS soundtrack, because I've actually found it to be a pretty faithful evolution of the original soundtrack. I mean, the original soundtrack was fantastic and I don't think there's any way ORAS will trump that, and granted I'm also not very far in the game (got it really late grumble grumble money grumble grumble), but it has its own adaption of the original horns and I think it's captured the original soundtrack far better than FRLG or HGSS. Yeah there's certainly the modern vibe, but every remake set so far has adapted the sort of musical style of the current generation, so I'm not really surprised that it has traces of XY in it.

I'll see how I feel as I progress, but I honestly think they did a really good job capturing the original vibe thus far.
 

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I get the feeling that it might be more that ORAS was just kinda... okay I guess? One of my friends and I had a conversation about this last night, but there was just something to ORAS that made the entire experience pretty damn underwhelming. They managed to make Hoenn feel tiny, the extremely varied environments forgettable, entirely because if you have to go anywhere you've already been they just have your rival teleport you there. Not only that, but they made the leaders cartoonishly unappealing (I am not a fan of the redesigned teams, btw), made the soundtrack less memorable, I feel like the lowered the overall difficultly on top of that.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot that I liked in ORAS but I feel like the game just didn't come together as an overall package very well.
Actually you are only showing your true colors/affection for Ruby Sapphire, as ORAS is by far the most "faithful" remake compared to RBY & FRLG and GSC & HGSS.
 

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Actually you are only showing your true colors/affection for Ruby Sapphire, as ORAS is by far the most "faithful" remake compared to RBY & FRLG and GSC & HGSS.
Maybe. I still don't like how your rival teleported you all over the place, it made the region feel really small.

Granted, Ruby (not Sapphire, not Emerald, Pocket Monsters RUBY Version) is my favorite game in the entire series. If I ever threw together a top ten favorite games list I'm sure it would have a spot on there. Chances are I would have been underwhelmed by almost anything they did. Hell, I still haven't finished Delta Episode. I just don't have the desire to play the game past the elite four.

I still don't care much for the remastered OST. The use of electronica just evokes a different tone than the original. Not to mention the leaders being redesigned to be as hilariously over the top as possible. I don't think ORAS is bad, but it certainly feels like it was made for a new generation.
 
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Quillion

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Pokémon fans are freaking hilarious when it comes to change. Any slight difference between games will be considered RUINED FOREVER.

Now, Final Fantasy on the other hand is a series that does REAL change.
 
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I'm okay with changes in Pokemon. Actually, I think they need to make more changes. For example:

- Replace some (or all) HM moves with items, like axe instead of Cut, flashlight instead of Flash...
- Replace trade evolutions with something else, like have ones who evolve by trading without item evolve by leveling up instead, and have ones who evolve by trading with an item evolve by using the item on them (similar to evolutionary stones).
- There should be more than one save file.
- Also, they really should give up version exclusives.
 
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