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It's the process of elimination. Ridley and K. Rool were likely at the top, and they got in. Inklings probably too. All cut characters were being added back anyway, so Snake, Ice Climbers, etc. wouldn't interfere.
I agree with this. She HAS to be up there in popularity, and with all the content crammed here and pretty much every popular choice getting in in some way or form (playable/Echo, AT, background character, etc.), Dixie MUST be acknowledged; she simply cannot be MIA again in this game. I'm hopeful she'll playable and would be about time. I've been wanting her in since Brawl.
Chances are, she is up there. It just sucks that we can't really ever know for sure. But in the end, I think she'll make it. I think she'll be revealed alongside some other characters when they announce the secret game mode, which will probably be some sort of enhanced Adventure/Boss Rush/Smash Run mode that will be used to unlock allied characters from different universes like Dixie, BWD and the Xenoblade rep, who will aid you in battle if you use certain characters or something. Would be pretty cool.
I'm afraid there is nothing yet. It's really odd, considering its success and how fresh it was around the time Smash 4 was released, the ballot and the date the roster was decided. Hopefully it's a good sign.
I’m glad they went with klaptrap as the AT rather than the newer enemies, as it furthers the point that this is a fanservice game, which definitely helps Dixie’s chances.
I guess when you think of it that way, Dixie's chances are helped regardless.
We don't even have the Returns stage yet. A Gamexplain video said we might not get that one cause of the new stage morph option. So I feel like we have to get a Tropical Freeze stage.
Perhaps. At least it was time for us to get our first DK Assist Trophy in general.
Originally I was a bit bummed she had nothing in For aside from a regular trophy, but I actually think the fact Dixie wasn't an AT would have helped her in the ballot. A lot of people thought it was purely for DLC. Waluigi and Ashley probably got hit hard by this and it might be why they're still ATs in this game.
Yea, now that you mention it I remember some hostility from Toad and Bowser Jr during post Brawl, and a lot of fans of the Mario options didn't seem to overlap iirc. Those were some big flamewars, it didn't necessarily make Dixie v K. Rool look tame but they seemed to be on much larger scales.
I feel mostly every character that got a Smashified render done of them were overall popular picks during the ballot.
Not Necessarily; Dark Samus showed up on her own instead of showing up in the Ridley trailer, so I think it's possible that we see her later on.
Yep and most of them are characters that require a moveset and models from scratch: Waluigi, Krystal, Shovel Knight, Ashley etc.
Considering that Ridley and K Rool are in while Bomberman, Shovel Knight, and Krystal are assist trophies, you're not exactly wrong
The only reason people think this way is because K. Rool got in, so now people assume there won't be a second DK character... Metroid just got 2 new characters and Fire emblem got another character... I'm sure DK will get Dixie.
I don't think they'd show off 2 dk characters right after another, I'm hopeful dixie is coming but I don't think she'd be next. I've got a gut feeling about Bandana Dee being next tbh.
Personally, I don't think Dixie will get in either, but she some things going for her. She's not the most popular, but still has a pretty good sized fanbase, and she also has been an important character in Nintendo history. She also has the same body-type as Diddy, so even if she wasn't an echo, she'd be easier to develop. She definitely deserves a spot, but I just can't get my hopes up just to be let down again.
Mario got 2 whole unique newcomers in smash 4 and no one was really complaining, I don't think people will be upset when it was generally believed that DK was severely underrepresented
Pretty much everyone, even non-DK fans, were saying if any franchise deserved two characters this go around, it was DK.
I wouldn't like it if she was lumped in with Kiddy, but I actually had a dream a month ago that this happened. You make some reasonable points, and I do think it's possible, but I really think she should be her own character, and it doesn't help that Kiddy is one of my least favorite Kongs.So some food for thought that I had when I read all the views up to this point about on the Dixie's overall "absence" in K.Rool's reveal trailer. Might get bit long too, but I believe this might be pretty substantial to what we might receive about Dixie in the future.
To begin, I personally am hypothesizing that by most likely case, we won't be getting Dixie revealed in a way we expect through being continuation of K.Rool's trailer incase she's an Echo.
So far, all the Echoes were revealed via dropping them right off the bat in our faces during the presentations. The only exception to this was Richter, but that was again due being part of Simon's trailer overall.
However, K.Rool's trailer ended up not featuring Dixie in any form, so the "boat" for that has passed for her (I really wanted to say "ship", but it doesn't really work figuratively).
I'm presuming there's two outcomes that could come later regarding how we might see Dixie later.
The more likely outcome would be that we see Dixie's revealed in a later Direct as an echo, coming in from another "wave" of announcements featuring that Direct's Echo Fighters (much like Chrom & Dark Samus).
This by the way, won't feature a "continuation" to where we left off from K.Rool's trailer, as Echoes don't get such extrensive reveals, but instead are just dropped right on our faces to be shown. I presume they reveal her on SSBU's hypothetical Tropical Freeze-stage to tie in with Dixie's recent adventure in that game.
The conclusion we could then come from why she ended up an Echo despite her enduring popularity and demand from Smash-community would be that K.Rool' was just higher priority and asked for more resources due being such an unique character, so Dixie would have had to put away to a shelf some while as a considerable candidate to the roster by her own whole uniqueness, and then been casted as an Echo after dev time seemed to be plentiful enough to make some clones.
By this logic, I feel like she should have been featured in K.Rool's trailer - the only reason why she wasn't would have been to showcase her in the Tropical Freeze-stage.
Now to the other hypothesis I've made up out of what we have received so far, and what it might be in store for Dixie, incase she'd be unique. I'm thinking people will raise eyebrows at this, but just bear with me on this.
If the fact that we didn't see Dixie back in K.Rool's trailer is because she's still being worked on as a semi-clone in vein of Lucas/Wolf, I think a trailer to justify all that would feel teensy underwhelming, unless she has lots to offer despite using the same mold as Diddy Kong. See the Echo-part above.
Another thing to note is that the trailers for newcomers have all used crossover theme throughout them via featuring other Smashers, as per what we had also in Smash 4's ensemble of newcomer trailers.
So if Dixie were to get her own trailer, it'd have to have her go against not only K.Rool, but also some other villains that might be with him.
Now I don't want to say she can't take on them all together, but if I were Sakurai, I think her being another take on Diddy with hair mainly on the center would feel tad like waste of resources better used to showcase another character with more unique features to sell them at Smash's overall crowd.
In fact, if she seems more or less another spin on Diddy (harhar), what could make her unique features be even more accentuated and complemented with?
The answer is to all of this is...
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Now hear me out. I know this would make Dixie not be featured on her own end, but at the same time, I think Dixie being tagged with Kiddy Kong would actually allow her more unique aspects to flourish even more, even pulling stuff from recent DK-games, such as Returns + Tropical Freeze.
Starting in DKC2 and 3, you had "Team-Up"-ability, which allowed you to carry your teammate and throw them to reach unreachable places both above and below - or you could just lob them at your enemies to defeat them.
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This became kind of the main component behind the Kong Barrel-system we saw in Returns, where upon getting it DK could be able to hover via Diddy's rocket barrel - and allow continuous rolling if you kept shaking the Wiimote (or held the button on the 3DS-port):
So what I am trying to suggest could be in the works is that Sakurai would have gone to revisit the tag team concept that he tried to implement with Diddy and Dixie in Brawl, except with Kiddy Kong this time. This would allow Dixie to use her ponytail not only for attacks, but also lob Kiddy at enemies, or even set him for a roll as we saw in DKCR, among other ideas for tag team attacks.
Speaking which, that bit about how DKCR had continuous rolling?
It actually is from DKC3!
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So it all adds up!
Imagine if in her reveal trailer, Dixie goes against K.Rool and some villains along him. She then whistles for a call, and suddenly out of nowhere comes a toddler chimp that's almost her size. The villains laugh at this, but then Dixie hauls Kiddy up with her ponytail, and throws him at them. After that, Kiddy might rebound back to Dixie, who then might try her best to carry in the air (like her Helicopter Twirl from Tropical Freeze), and use that to set up for B-Rolling Attack, and proceeds bowl over rest of the villains, until freeing DK and Diddy (incase they were shown imprisoned in cages in the trailer.)
Now I guess the things that would be ending up open here would be if Kiddy's overall implementation - would he be like Luma/Nana, or could you actually play as him? If he'd be also controllable, I can see him be (fittingly) portrayed as mini-sized echo of DK, and you could play as him via switching (giving you basically two characters to play as via former Zelda/Sheik).
