Dissidia Mafia: Over Serial Killer Wiins! ~ Told you $#!* got real!

[#HBC | Gorf]

Like this?

Vote: Radical Fiction

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Unvote .

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Or do you wanna see it on the votecount?

 

[Radical Fiction]

That settles that.

What exactly was your proposition?

 

[Radical Fiction]

It's enough. If there's a penalty, it'll show.

 

[#HBC | J]

Gord you know that won't count unless you go onto your hydra account =/

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I gotta see the votecount first. I'll tell ya when it's all settled that your shot didn't go through.

@J K I'll appease ya by having the gnome vote.

 

[smarboy69]

Vote: Radical Fiction

 

[smarboy69]

Unvote

I betcha that makes ya feel peachy don't it J?

Oh Gord's bein a douche he's mad scummy.

 

[Radical Fiction]

RR, where's your head at?

 

[Tandora]

I think we all need to sit back and ask why did the SK pick who he did as his NKs?

N1 had Asdioh and Vult dying. Assuming Seph listed them as Mafia kill then Indy kill, that would imply Vult. (This is purely guessing on my behalf.) I looked at both of their last page worth of posts and I cannot find a connection from either.

N2 had DH and Gheb dying. Clearly Gheb was the Indy kill.

N3 had Hida Jiremi dying. Clearly Indy kill, no Mafia kill.

My earlier analysis had RR as town because of his interactions against Gheb (confirmed scum). But now that there's an independent faction, I have to rethink him.

Really it bothers me the SK killed Jiremi during the night. Why eliminate the OBVIOUS lynch for the next day unless you were afraid he was gonna target you that night? Right? Jiremi would never have NK me because I was a safe bet in his favor, so I had no reason to NK him.

Jiremi and Gheb both pushed for a RR lynch. Is it possible he killed them to shut them up?

As far as Soup goes, that guy was an idiot. I had a clear town read on him before I realized we were masons, but then he kept flip flopping around. And lying that he was ZIDANE after Zidane flipped just so stupid, I don't think I have words for it.

The idiot even voted for himself without any argument to help prove his innocence. So, don't even try to pin his "fiasco" on me. Yesterday I felt it had to be either him or Jiremi and I even admitted I would rather it be him than Jiremi for reasons already listed.

 

[Radical Fiction]

WIFOM all over that post and not the fun kind.

Can I have your reads on every player this game?

 

[Radical Fiction]

EBWOP: Every player in this game. Every player alive in this game. Every player currently in this game. Something like that because every player this game is dumb.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch!

[0] J:
[0] Tandora:
[0] Red Ryu:
[0] smarboy69:
[0] Radical Fiction:
[0] No Lynch:

Not voting: J, Tandora, Red Ryu, smarboy69, Radical Fiction,

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

SephirothsDoucheamune

Gordito gets modkilled!

Spoiler

Not really

 

[Radical Fiction]

Tandora, where'd you go?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

She mad scared.

Oh wait that's right my proposition.

 

[smarboy69]

This was meant to be posted yesterDay but then I was like F it the lynch is going to Soup anyway. I'm basically reading through and editing as I go along so yea...

So Radical Fiction. Let me make one thing abundantly clear: I think you might be the one causing two deaths, whether you're a vigilante that's gambiting, or a serial killer. Now, what does that have to do with anything? It means I might want you dead toDay. I did the math, and with the assumption that you're the shooter, we kill you off toDay, and that makes the game at a 3 v 1 going into the Night. toMorrow comes putting us at 2 v 1. We lynch Tandora toMorrow like you requested toDay, and we either win the game. A town Radical Fiction would be perfectly fine being lynched toDay if this was the case. Watchu say?

I mean, it's truly the most pro town thing to do at this point, seeing that none of town can truly tell whether or not you're a compulsive Serial Killer or a Vigilante that's been gambiting and shooting every Night. You'd NEED a mislynch toDay to assure your win toMorrow as an indy. We'd be MLing Tandora toDay, you'd probz shoot RR or myself toNight. And then pull out a legit DayKill command out of your a** toMorrow for the win. Now, I don't want my town to have to undergo that. As far as your actions speak, I'm inclined to believe you're town. But as far as statistics go, your death toDay might just be the most pro town thing to do.

Think of it as... closure. If you're town, the rest of town follows out your wishes and kills Tandora toMorrow. If you're indy, then el oh el. Yes, I'm willing to hold this up for discussion. And if the rest of town doesn't think it's a good idea, I'll go along with them and hammer Tan at L-2.

 

[Radical Fiction]

First off, **** you the lynch was not obviously going to Soup.

Second off, **** you no. I have two players that have lurked through the game. I'm willing to go on a limb and say Tandora before J, but I am not willing to put the game on my lurker reading ability. Before you lynch me, you'll have to explain to me why you want us gone over Tandora or J.

Third, we're ****ing Day Vig, are you daft? Even if we're lying, WE'VE INPUTTED THE DAYKILL COMMAND MULTIPLE TIMES!!! Why the hell would a night killing role get a day killing ability? Why are you trying to get us lynched and why don't you consider the possibility of J scum?

 

[Radical Fiction]

EBWOP: on my lurker reading ability no matter how ****ing good I may be

 

[smarboy69]

What I meant was, when I was preparing to do it, he was at L-1 iirc. Plus, RR was even in support of it, and I didn't really care about J's opinion.

I want you gone, mainly because of the fact that you're the only person that claimed having a gun, and I know that both player slots of yours are smart enough to pull off a sort of gambit like Day Vig, esp. if I was able to pull of a actor gambit and I'm pre' stupid . It just seems so risky to me for some reason. I'll talk to smargz more about it, and hell, even have Red Ryu and J and Tandora weigh in on it. But still, It's not off anything aside from claims and statistics.

Nobody, aside from you, knows the DayKill command. How are we to verify that you've actually done it, unless of course the mod brings it up, which he explicitally HASN'T every time you've done it. You bring up a point regarding the day killing and night killing thing (hell, you might even be GAMBITING the DayVig thing entirely, in which case it wouldn't make a difference keeping you around till toMorrow regardless now that I think of it), and I don't consider J scum cuz... Actually I forgot why I don't. Actually, I was more considering Glyph/J as NOT the 3rd scummate, which he's not.

Hmm... Yea. We'll lynch Tandora toDay. Out of both players she's def. scummier, and I'll see if anything happens from there.

 

[smarboy69]

In fact, now that I think about it, what the hell would a SK Radical Fiction gain advantage of if he was killing off his legitimate scum read during the Night?

 

[smarboy69]

If anything, he'd kill off a town read to make the game at 2 v 1 v 1...

I really gotta think about this game if we go through killing off Tandora and the game continues...

 

[Radical Fiction]

The command is simply

Daykill: Tandora

Where I can put in any player name. We are one shot and we do not have to activate Eternal Perception although it was fun as hell to make those lines up.

 

[Radical Fiction]

I see a wild J looking at DGames.

 

[smarboy69]

Hmm ...

 

[Radical Fiction]

That post accomplished what, exactly?

 

[smarboy69]

3 things actually:

1) I 10char dodged.

2) I was gonna type up asking you if you thought your role was a red herring but I stopped myself to look at the roles (which I still haven't done actually).

3) (unintentionally) I got a ninja out of it.

 

[smarboy69]

K. I can't fathom any reason why a DayKill wouldn't work at this point, role and balance wise.

Town:

Cop
Doc
Watcher
DV
1 Shot Day Vig
2/1 VT Neighbors
3/2 VT

Mafiosi:

Temporary Mason
Trap Master
Vote Manipulator

Indy:

Killer of some sort, probz SK.

That sounds kinda unbalanced to me, to have the Day Vig as a red herring of some sort.

 

[Radical Fiction]

I see J online again.

 

[#HBC | J]

Oh am I supposed to post something?

Uuuuuuh what exactly?

I'm going to bed now.

I wanna see more of Smarg vs. RF though.

 

[Tandora]

EBWOP: Every player in this game. Every player alive in this game. Every player currently in this game. Something like that because every player this game is dumb.

J - Could be scum because Glyph was really lurky and J hasn't really contributed much imho since he subbed in. He's had plenty of time to catch up and he's not really asked any questions. He's just kinda coasted along. Most of my town read on him was on his role's interactions with scum, but obviously if indy SK, that doesn't work really well.

Red Ryu - Once again, many of my town reads were based on his interactions with proven scum. Indy eliminates that.

smarboy69 - I want to think is town, but faking town actor for a supposed doublevoter makes me rethink the role. It's true the role voted and unvoted but we never got to see the double vote. All we did was confirm not actor.

Radical Fiction - I've had a town read from this role most of the game, but with so many "failed" day vigs and the overeagerness for a quick lynch, I don't know any more. I don't think he's lying because I do get a sense of frustration of "Why isn't my power working?", but would it really be balanced to have two NK and a day kill even with a one shot on a 13 player game?

So in short, I trust no one any more.

I'm town, I don't how I can prove it any more at this point. Soup confirmed everything I said, it's not my fault he was too stupid/lazy/ a quitter to not defend his role. And I was wrong about Jiremi because I wanted to believe he was town more than admit I could be wrong.

I'll never vote for myself, I want to keep looking over this game to try to gleam something useful to find the last anti-town role. I'll never self vote. But I also realize leaving me alive for tomorrow is bad because of all the built up wifom on me.

I feel it has to be between J and RR. Smarg and I have really do have similar playstyles and she's said many things where I'm like "YES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!" RF has been fairly dominate in personality, pushing people, trying to get reactions and the pics make me think they're town.

RR has been pretty active and scumhunting ever since he was initially prodded, but that would be easier for an indy than true scum.

Which leaves J. J's play hasn't felt right to me. He's not as feet first into this game as I've seen him in others. Replacing in can make that hard, but I feel there's been enough time for more input from him. His "I never want to lynch Tanny, but I would" seems safe wishy washy to me.

So IGMEOU for J. I wanna do a thorough reread before I commit to a vote though. We're at the stage of the game huge rereads are what is gonna win town this game, not fast lynches. I am serious about we need to look at the NKs. Why did scum pick who they did? Who would have profited from NK Jiremi last night the most?

Jiremi was the planned lynch for today, why contribute to killing scum if you KNOW you're the serial killer? It just doesn't make sense. I highly doubt a fourth scum mate since they all had power roles, that woudl be way too imbalanced in scum's favor. SK had to fear Jiremi would target them otherwise they could have left him alive to kill someone else and get to end game that much faster.

 

[Radical Fiction]

So, you agree that regardless of who we lynch today when all's said and done, we should get them to L-2 and have Smarboy hammer from there?

What do you think of J's staying on the sideline?

Those two questions also apply to Red Ruy.

 

[smarboy69]

Red Ruy

@J what more of Smar vs RF do you need? And if you didn't realize I said I wanted your opinion in my thoughts for my 1858.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Based entirely on the last two posts, I'm willing to lynch J first, then Tandora.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Btw, still want to lynch Tandora. See something in that post I dislike. Willing to wait and let Red Ruy post before going there.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Man did Sold, Roxy, or Psi give you that picture, lol.

One sec making a post.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

RR, where's your head at?

Mad crazy places.

I think we all need to sit back and ask why did the SK pick who he did as his NKs?

N1 had Asdioh and Vult dying. Assuming Seph listed them as Mafia kill then Indy kill, that would imply Vult. (This is purely guessing on my behalf.) I looked at both of their last page worth of posts and I cannot find a connection from either.

N2 had DH and Gheb dying. Clearly Gheb was the Indy kill.

N3 had Hida Jiremi dying. Clearly Indy kill, no Mafia kill.

My earlier analysis had RR as town because of his interactions against Gheb (confirmed scum). But now that there's an independent faction, I have to rethink him.

Really it bothers me the SK killed Jiremi during the night. Why eliminate the OBVIOUS lynch for the next day unless you were afraid he was gonna target you that night? Right? Jiremi would never have NK me because I was a safe bet in his favor, so I had no reason to NK him.

Jiremi and Gheb both pushed for a RR lynch. Is it possible he killed them to shut them up?

As far as Soup goes, that guy was an idiot. I had a clear town read on him before I realized we were masons, but then he kept flip flopping around. And lying that he was ZIDANE after Zidane flipped just so stupid, I don't think I have words for it.

The idiot even voted for himself without any argument to help prove his innocence. So, don't even try to pin his "fiasco" on me. Yesterday I felt it had to be either him or Jiremi and I even admitted I would rather it be him than Jiremi for reasons already listed.

Hydra caught JTB because he watched Asdioh, so Vult was the indy kill.

For those people who are a bit slow.

Watched Asdioh.

Saw JTB and only JTB visit him. All this gambiting thus far was just to get JTB to answer whether he thought Asdioh was town N1. Wanted to make sure he didn't vig kill him. However, why would JTB vig kill Asdioh when he thought he was town going into N1? He wouldn't. Hes scum. He should die.

On the flip side, we now know Smar is also not a role that visited last night.

as seen here.

K. I can't fathom any reason why a DayKill wouldn't work at this point, role and balance wise.

Town:

Cop
Doc
Watcher
DV
1 Shot Day Vig
2/1 VT Neighbors
3/2 VT

Mafiosi:

Temporary Mason
Trap Master
Vote Manipulator

Indy:

Killer of some sort, probz SK.

That sounds kinda unbalanced to me, to have the Day Vig as a red herring of some sort.

Ok so for who is alive we have.

2 claimed VTs who have no way to confirm themselves.
1 DV
1 1SDV
1 Neighbor

So let's look back.

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch!

[0] J:
[0] Tandora:
[5] Soupamario: Tandora, Soupamario, hidajiremi, smarboy69,
[0] hidajiremi:
[2] Red Ryu: J, Radical Fiction,
[0] smarboy69:
[0] Radical Fiction:
[0] No Lynch:

Not voting: Red Ryu,

Soupamario has been lynched!

I'll post the flip after I get back back from church! (approx 3 hours.)

He is indeed a double voter.
Tandora has some legit standing with his neighbor claim, since Soupa did confirm this and I doubt the mod would make the serial killer masioned with a VT I think he is town as well.

So I'm left with J and Radical as the Indy.

So, you agree that regardless of who we lynch today when all's said and done, we should get them to L-2 and have Smarboy hammer from there?

What do you think of J's staying on the sideline?

Those two questions also apply to Red Ruy.

Well the past votes already confirm he's a DV at this point. We could have him hammer if need be.

J is my strongest pick atm between the four left, however the only person who isn't in the clear for me is you, I need to reread and see what needs to be done, because while J is shaky and I don't want him at Lylo in this game. Still I want to reread and ensure that I can safely say a lynch on him is better than you.

You being a 1SDV is bothering me, even more so when it seems you have trouble shooting and I can't figure out why the mod would make it hard for you to do it.

So a reread is in order.

Scum picks are you and J atm.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Tandora has some legit standing with his neighbor claim, since Soupa did confirm this and I doubt the mod would make the serial killer masioned with a VT I think he is town as well.

The neighbor role is not indicative of alignment and now you're trying to outguess the host. I swear to God, that almost always ends in failure.

 

[Radical Fiction]

You're right about Vult being the target Day 1. Let me reread,... again.

How do previous votes prove Smarboy is a double voter?