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Diddy Kong MU Discussion

-Mars-

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Previous discussions:

:dedede:- slight disadvantage
:metaknight:- disadvantage
:warioc:- slight disadvantage
:zerosuitsamus:- undecided
:rob:- undecided
:marth:- currently under discussion
:snake:- even
:falco:- even
 

#HBC | Scary

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Diddy is evil. Bananas aside, Diddy has a great amount of priority and range shocking range in his attacks. His grab range is kinda huge. Fair is dumb. Usmash ***** us. Monkey Flip is one of the most ******** moves ever. And then there are bananas.

All this said, I think it's slight disadvantage because we can rack damage well and if we get him offstage, we can ruin him. Killing outright is a slight issue but when isn't it. We have a good banana game but we shouldn't get caught up in playing their game or else it can cause us issues. Banana to DACUS is cool though lol.
 

-Cross-

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DACUS to catch thrown bananas is even cooler ;) Also how does u-smash **** Sheik? Does it combo into itself at lower %'s? If anything, wouldn't his utilt be even better at juggling Sheik given her fall speed?
 

#HBC | Scary

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DACUS to catch thrown bananas is even cooler ;) Also how does u-smash **** Sheik? Does it combo into itself at lower %'s? If anything, wouldn't his utilt be even better at juggling Sheik given her fall speed?
At lower percentages, utiltx2 or 3 -> Usmash ***** us to almost 35%. then stupidity begins and Utilt later becomes a kill move if we survive the other nonsense. His Usmash beats alot of our moves. It's really dumb.
 

phi1ny3

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MU is polarized by two kinds of categories: when diddy has bananas, and when diddy doesn't. When Diddy has bananas, needles and shield are your friend, as long as you don't get predictable with either. Without bananas, ftilt becomes an actually decent poke on his shield for damage/response depending on reaction, and you get in and do damage like crazy. monkey flip is tough, but needles obviously wreck that, don't attack his kick variant, it beats tons of stuff. diddy's juggle game is silly, so is ours in return. Play keep away with those bananas, needles slow down his movement if he doesn't have one, and needles will buy you a little time if he pulls one out, especially fully charged needles. Either way, you should make it hard for him to pull a banana without at least some punishment, plus your ground speed allows you to get close enough to steal one sometimes while he's pulling them out :)

Edgeguard him like mad, careful of banana throw if you plan on tethering.
 

ChocoNaner

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The MU is 35-65 @ worst in Diddy's favor. Probably 5-5 or 55-45 in Sheik's favor at best, we're talking about when it's on say Brinstar, Norfair, or Green Greens.

She can't do **** when we're camping except throw needles which doesn't really do anything. She can try to approach but then we can just run like a ***** and resume camping. If somehow we phail and she succeeds in getting in, the idea is, which goes for every char when fighting Diddy, to keep the pressure on and not let that chimp camp or get back on his feet. Bad thing for Sheik is that her pressure game sucks since after you get passed the Ftilt, grabs, and Fair, Diddy can start playing gay again. ****ting on Diddy's recovery is probably where Sheik shines, seeing as that ***** can needle gimp our barrels and wall us with Bair, though it's not exactly the best wall because one, MK obv wh0res that position, and two, the MFK will trade hits with it. Best choice by far is to abuse grabs seeing as how Sheik is better in the air than on the ground and vice-versa for Diddy. Sheik's banana usage can be amazing if she knows wtf to do with them and against them. Worst option is to throw it back directly at Diddy, one of the better options would be to camp him back since he can't make his camping wall and without it, Sheik can out camp him. Diddy's weight also helps in the MU, though not much since Sheik still sucks @ killing.

Glad to help, anytime, every time. :troll:
 
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