Diddy Kong frame Data.

[Deez.]

Diddy Kong
Jab: 3

Forward Tilt: 10
Up Tilt: 6
Down Tilt: 4
Dash Attack: 9

Up Smash: 5
Down Smash: 6
Forward Smash: 12

Forward B: 19
Neutral B: 14
Down B: ???
Up B: 8

Forward Air: 6
Back Air: 5
Down Air: 13
Up Air: 3
Neutral Air: 7

 

[Dekar173]

So for this frame data is this where the very first hitbox comes out?

Hopefully there's more to come, I've been looking forward to some Diddy frame data :D

 

[fource]

Wait, I thought frame data was how fast a move comes out?
Does this mean we should be DI'ing with Uair?

 

[Le_THieN]

Wait, I thought frame data was how fast a move comes out?
Does this mean we should be DI'ing with Uair?

This frame data post is mostly incomplete and misleading, as it doesn't display the total amount of frames for these moves to actually finish. With regards of momentum-canceling, you always want to execute the aerial attack that finishes the quickest, and B-air is still that move. How fast the hit-box comes out has no bearing on this if the overall animation (start-up + hit-box + cool-down) is too long; U-air, although have virtually no start-up, has asininely long cool-down.

There's another post in a separate thread that displays all this information in greater depth.

 

[DFEAR]

im gonna assume this is the initial hit frame data of the moves o-o as i know the ending frames of the dash attack are like 0-4 frames somewhere in between (2?). o-o specify the frames pls

 

[Player-1]

we need frame data on banana throwing

 

[DFEAR]

well hmm how is that useful though? like if it can cancel out marths upb or something? perhaps go through certain character spotdodges o-o?

 

[Bellioes]

I agree, banana throwing as well as catching and how long a character is in the tripped animation before they can get out would be useful. It would really help in discovering more banana tricks. We might even find a new nana lock with this data.

EDIT: NVM I didnt read the posts above P-1. So the numbers are the start up frames of the attacks if I understood right.

 

[Player-1]

well hmm how is that useful though? like if it can cancel out marths upb or something? perhaps go through certain character spotdodges o-o?

I find it most useful in spotdodge battles. If I'm Shielding and the other character is shielding and we're right next to each other, and we're waiting for one of to make a move, then I want to know if my glideotss can come out before their attack, usually a dsmash

Edit: And we have another thread that has better frame data in it somewhere. Or it might be in one of the stickies.

Edit2: Found it-

Jab - 1
Hit 3F
Advantage -13F

Jab - 2
Hit ?
Advantage -16F

Jab - 3
Hit ?
Advantage -7F

Dash attack
Hit 9F , ? , ?
Advantage 0F

F tilt
Hit 10F
Advantage -24F

U tilt
Hit 6F
Advantage -16F

D tilt
Hit 4F
Advantage -13F

F smash
Hit 12F , ?
Advantage -22F

U smash
Hit 5F , ? , ?
Advantage -31F

D smash
Hit 6F , ?
Advantage -42F(f) , -33F(b)

N air
Hit 7F
Land lag 13F

F air
Hit 6F
Land lag 30F

B air
Hit 5F
Land lag 12F

U air
Hit 3F
Land lag 21F

D air
Hit 13F
Land lag 30F

Grab
Hit 6F

Dash grab
Hit 9F

Jump
Action 4F
Land lag 2F(SJ) , 4F(J)



It's still not complete with all of Diddy's options (banana throws, etc.) and other stuff.

 

[Kaptain Kong]

how do you get this frame data?

do you have to use a hack?
if so, how do you figure out how long the attack lasts and all that other stuff?

 

[AlphaZealot]

A very tedious process involving video capture cards and random things. Its complicated because most capture cards record in 30 fps so you can't just capture and watch, because then you will be missing frames.

Sigh, I wish we still had AR

 

[Bellioes]

Yeah M2K (or SDM I forget) made a thread on how to get frame data in brawl. It was really long and required some high tech equipment.

 

[Player-1]

A very tedious process involving video capture cards and random things. Its complicated because most capture cards record in 30 fps so you can't just capture and watch, because then you will be missing frames.

Sigh, I wish we still had AR

I'm pretty sure there's a hack for it as well. That's just what I heard.

 

[DFEAR]

wow knowing the glide toss and throw frames would actually help a ****load in that situation p1 its almost a guarantee in every battle. dont get me started on how many times a metaknight or a rob would dsmash abuse me :\