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Diddy Kong Final Smash... Disapointed.

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Lupo Aro

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The difference is, at least THEN it would be something Diddy wasn't previously capable of doing.

One of the neat things about Smash Balls is that they seem to endow the user with powers they didn't have access to before.

Mario? FLAMING KAMEHAMEHA OF DOOM!!

Bowser? GIGA BOWSER TRANSFORMATION OF DOOOOM!!!!!

Link? WEIRD TRI-FORCE THINGY OF DOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yoshi? FIRE BELCHING WINGED DRAGON OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Samus? STRIPPER CANNON BLAST OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With Diddy, you don't get that. I mean yeah, DK's bongos are kinda lame, and Pikachu's Volt Tackle is just another electricity attack, but Diddy literally has all the tools needed to do his Final Smash before he ever touches the Smash Ball. So what does the Smash Ball actually do to him? Make him smart enough to fly and shoot at the same time? Why couldn't he think of that himself?

It's just. . . pointless.
Maybe it makes his peanuts explode and gives his barrels more flight time? I dunno.
 

Enlong

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To those saying that this doesn't do anything for Diddy, other then tactical knowledge, it does. The Peanuts now seem to be filled with C4 or something and explode violently on impact. Not to mention that the rocketbarrels most likely are more powerful and last longer, and explode violently upon finish of the move. This move imbues both Diddy's weapons with superpowers.
 

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My goodness by the reception of Diddy's Final Smash you'd think some people wouldn't want him in Brawl at all ;_;

What other Final Smash would you want him to have? A suggestion without the guitar would be nice.

-Knight
 

Captain Brawlimar

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I still would rather have the guitar than this. If he's going to based on his DK64 self, then I think the guitar would make more sense, rather than abusing the peanuts and rocketbarrels to no end.

It doesn't ruin the game for me, but I'm still a little disappointed in it.
 

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How in the hell can you people not like the idea of a chimp flying around with a jetpack shooting people with dual pistols? WTF is wrong with you people? Are you never satisfied?
 

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I guess for me it's because that's already what two of his special moves are. I wish they had had something entirely unique for his Final Smash.
 

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I was really hoping that he would have his guitar from the old games. Instead he shoots peanuts and flys... Probaly the only disapointment from this game I've had yet.

So, post here if you wanted Diddy to use his Guitar instead of his lame peanut shooters.
Yessssss! Si ! I'm sure glad that I'm not da only one that thinks Mini DK's Smash sux balls!! I freakin HATE it!

Well, maybe Sakurai-sensei didn't want both Diddy and Donkey Kong's Final Smashes to be musical instruments.
 

PineapplePete

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Agreed, I was really counting on the guitar, not just using his special moves.. its not really as exciting as FSs should be..
 

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his final smash is like his b and ub put together...while flying. can u imagine links or captain falcon's b and ub while flying? it just wouldnt wo---wait wat am i talking bout? tht'd rock lol
 

Sprigginz_Caldo

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It was a little bit disappointing. It was only a combination of two of his specials. Whoopdedoo.

If his guitar had a different effect than DK's, then by all means give us the guitar.

But this is just like giving Mario wings and letting him shoot fireballs at people. Lame....

Oh well.
 

maxpower1227

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I know. That's my point, actually. I'm not talking about gameplay here, I'm talking about Diddy and what he has at his disposable. He already has the guns and he already has the rocket booster. So, what does the Smash Ball do? With Mario, it endows him with ungodly fire abilities. With Bowser, it transforms him into a pimped out version of himself. With Samus, it makes her cannon so powerful it actually blows her suit off. So what does the Smash Ball physically do to Diddy? He can already fly, and he can already shoot, he just doesn't have the smarts to do both at the same time. So the only "special" thing the Smash Ball seems to do with Diddy is make him smart enough to use his tools to their fullest potential.
The Smash Ball also seems to make Diddy's peanuts turn into high-yield explosives. That was something he couldn't do before. In that sense, it's nto much different from Mario's final smash (he could already shoot fire, just not that much) or Link's (he could already swing a sword, just not that fast). I don't think this final smash was that bad.

Yoshi's is still by far my favorite though.

Also, this final smash seems to fit the theme of Diddy's Wile-E-Coyote-esque weapon use.
 

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Yeah, i'm going to agree with this thread. I'm not VERY disappointed, but it seems like they ran out of ideas given the lack of source material they had to work with. Seems they just took 2 moves and combined them. I think having something like summoning dixie kong may have been more interesting.
 

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just seeing the word "summoning" and dixie kong just seems wrong to me...

but i actually liked this final smash for Diddy. I loved DK64 so this is very perfect and fitting imo
 

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They did NOT "just take two moves and combine them." Flying and shooting at the same time was an important part of Diddy's parts in DK64. It's not random, and it's really aggravating that the same people I see complaining that they wanted the guitar and that this FS is terrible are the same people that keep complaining about clones and seem to be perfectly content with Link's FS.

All he does is cut people with a sword. That's it. And you're complaining about Diddy's... why?

It's imaginative, cool-looking, and unique. What else do you want?
 

maxpower1227

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You guys are all missing the big point: Diddy doesn't use his guitar for his final smash.... because that's what Dixie is going to do for hers....


....>_>




......<_<
 

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All [Link] does is cut people with a sword. That's it. And you're complaining about Diddy's... why?
Are you not remembering the part of Link's Final Smash where his enemy is trapped in the triforce? It's not like it's just Link flailing at someone—it's Link flailing at someone with the help of the triforce to immobolize his opponent. There's a certain level "superness" to that. Diddy's, in my opinion, as wells as a few others, does not have that. Even if it is cannon with a game, it just isn't something that seems like it should require a Smash Ball.

It's imaginative, cool-looking, and unique. What else do you want?
That's just a lie.

It's not imaginative, because it is almost literally just his standard special and up special combine. Admittedly, yes, these peanuts seems to be altered into explosives (I heard a while ago that it's actually possible to do that with peanuts. Don't know how much truth there is to that), and that's a step in the right direction, but it's still essentially the same thing. Unlike, say, Samu's final smash, where the blast basically takes up the whole screen and transforms Samus, the peanuts seem to essentially do exactly the same thing they normally would and cover the same amount of space. They probably just do a bit more damage and a bit more knockback, if anything.

Whether it looks cool or not is subjective. Though I do agree with you.

And it's not unique. It's quite the opposite actually. No one's played the game yet so it's impossible to tell for sure, but Diddy's final smash looks AWFULLY similar to Yoshi's. That automatically robs it of any uniqueness it may have had.
 

maxpower1227

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And it's not unique. It's quite the opposite actually. No one's played the game yet so it's impossible to tell for sure, but Diddy's final smash looks AWFULLY similar to Yoshi's. That automatically robs it of any uniqueness it may have had.

They both have precedent in each character's respective history, though. Yoshi's is obvious; it's taken from his very first video game appearance. As for Diddy, he could fly while shooting in DK64, and as someone mentioned that was an important ability. The only difference between DK64 and SSBB is the Wile-E-Coyote-ness of his moves.

And I still maintain that Diddy's FS is no different from Mario's or Link's in that they are all augmented/specialized versions of each character's special moves (Mario's B, Link's Up-B, Diddy's B and Up-B)
 

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I think that this is more creative then the guitar. DK has the drums, why does... DK need a similar FS? man, I wish they didn't have the same initials.
 

Puffs

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You talk like the rocketbarrel barrage and the guitar were the only options for Diddy's Final Smash.
 

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I think that this is more creative then the guitar. DK has the drums, why does... DK need a similar FS? man, I wish they didn't have the same initials.
Donkey Kong is DK, Diddy Kong is Diddy. No need to be confused. I mean, as a huge Diddy fan, I am a bit dissapointed with the final smash, especially considering it is just a bunch of stuff he already has but kicked up a notch. Nothing new or interesting really. I was hoping for something related to animal buddies, preferably Squawks. It is still cool and all, just not as interesting as I had hoped.
 

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They both have precedent in each character's respective history, though. Yoshi's is obvious; it's taken from his very first video game appearance. As for Diddy, he could fly while shooting in DK64, and as someone mentioned that was an important ability. The only difference between DK64 and SSBB is the Wile-E-Coyote-ness of his moves.

And I still maintain that Diddy's FS is no different from Mario's or Link's in that they are all augmented/specialized versions of each character's special moves (Mario's B, Link's Up-B, Diddy's B and Up-B)
I admit that's a good point (though I disagree with the "Link's Up-B" part). I guess I just wish that Diddy's was more specialized than it appears to me. Or that Diddy's moves would allow for such a thing. I mean, Mario's fireball becomes a ****in' kamehameha (OF DOOOOOOOOM!!!!!), but Diddy's popguns just fire explosive versions of what it already fired before. And even then, they don't really explode, because you can still eat them later.

Eh. I don't know. I'm just not happy with it. Nobody's problem but my own.
 

darkgreenwhale

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I would say what I don't like about this final is that when Diddy was revealed it said he would use his rocket barrel and peanut popgun. When we got his special moves he used his rocket barrels and peanut popgun. And now that we got his final he uses his rocket barrel and peanut popgun.

It kinda seems that Sakurai thinks that he's a one note (well, two note) character.
 

Xanderous

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Donkey Kong's Final Smash should have been him going berserk and throwing barrels at everything.

like in the original DK. and the music should have changed to that classic ****.
 

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Now that I think of it, they could have implemented the same mechanic while using Squawks. Squawks could fly down and grab Diddy by the shoulders and start flying around and spitting coconuts all over the stage. Either that, or Diddy could hop into a Squawks barrel and turn into Squawks and fly around shooting coconuts. Not only would this be different, it would be a cool reference to Donkey Kong Country 2.
 

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Of course his final smash should involve throwing excrement, like any self-respecting Ape would do, to show off against his enemies.

Samus' FS would also be pretty uncreative (albeit cool) if it didn't strip her afterwards.

Having played DK64 a lot, i quite liked Diddy's FS.
 
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