Diddy Kong Combo Thread

[Sonicninja115]

Hey! I found a new true combo! It worked on Link in training mode (haven't had time to test it on a human player) It works 41-54% and deals 25% and 29%

Dair-Uair-Fair (29%)
Dair-Uair-Uair (27%

 

[Orocket]

Hey! I found a new true combo! It worked on Link in training mode (haven't had time to test it on a human player) It works 41-54% and deals 25% and 29%

Dair-Uair-Fair (29%)
Dair-Uair-Uair (27%

Thats cool. I noticed that I was able to combo Dair into other aerials as well. If you short hop and you buffer the Dair so that it comes out on the first frame after Diddy's jump you can SH Dair with no landing lag. This lets you jump immediately for aerial follow ups. Too bad it won't combo into anything if they tech the Dair, but if they don't it can make some pretty cool combos like you've pointed out.

 

[Sonicninja115]

Thats cool. I noticed that I was able to combo Dair into other aerials as well. If you short hop and you buffer the Dair so that it comes out on the first frame after Diddy's jump you can SH Dair with no landing lag. This lets you jump immediately for aerial follow ups. Too bad it won't combo into anything if they tech the Dair, but if they don't it can make some pretty cool combos like you've pointed out.

And, even if they do manage to tech it they still get dealt the 13% that Dair gives... The only way to get punished would be if it was shielded. However, you can start this combo on someone that misses a tech so there should be uses for it, just limited and not as useful as the New-Haa.

 

[Joeyd123]

I was meesing around and found FF Nair -> Uair on Sheik was a true combo and KO'd around 120%

EDIT: Also at higher percents when DTilt -> Usmash no longer works and when DTilt -> RAR Bair is harder to land because Dtilt launches further. Its easier to land Dtilt -> Fair and it will still KO

 

[Sonicninja115]

I was meesing around and found FF Nair -> Uair on Sheik was a true combo and KO'd around 120%

EDIT: Also at higher percents when DTilt -> Usmash no longer works and when DTilt -> RAR Bair is harder to land because Dtilt launches further. Its easier to land Dtilt -> Fair and it will still KO

Thanks for finding these out! However, did you look at my post on the previous page? I have a list of all the true combos Orocket and I could find, and we covered FF Nair- Uair 0-94% on Mario and Dtilt to Usmash 107-136%, however I have never been that good at Dtilt-RAR Bair, so if you wouldn't mind could you test that on mario so that I coul add it to my post? I know it works best at 120% but I have a feeling it might true from 115-135%

 

[Joeyd123]

Thanks for finding these out! However, did you look at my post on the previous page? I have a list of all the true combos Orocket and I could find, and we covered FF Nair- Uair 0-94% on Mario and Dtilt to Usmash 107-136%, however I have never been that good at Dtilt-RAR Bair, so if you wouldn't mind could you test that on mario so that I coul add it to my post? I know it works best at 120% but I have a feeling it might true from 115-135%

Yeah I saw your post on the last page. I just thought it was worth mentioning the FF Nair -> can true combo and KO on Sheik since she is the strongest character in the game.

Also, are you asking me to test dtilt -> RAR Bair or Dtilt -> Fair?

 

[Sonicninja115]

Dtilt-RAR Bair

Okk, Thanks for clarifying that, my post was rather long and other people have suggested combos that I already had before so, yeah. Anyways, Thanks!

Yeah I saw your post on the last page. I just thought it was worth mentioning the FF Nair -> can true combo and KO on Sheik since she is the strongest character in the game.

Also, are you asking me to test dtilt -> RAR Bair or Dtilt -> Fair?

 

[Joeyd123]

Dtilt-RAR Bair

Okk, Thanks for clarifying that, my post was rather long and other people have suggested combos that I already had before so, yeah. Anyways, Thanks!

Lol I also have trouble landing that. I'm so inconsistent I don't even bother with it.

 

[Joeyd123]

So I've labbing for a while and found this combo. It works on characters that can we tripped and still have a hitbox high enough for Diddy to hit them with a Dair that will auto cancel. (I don't know which characters this works on yet), but its like a 28-30% true combo. https://vine.co/v/eDa73WhewzT

 

[Sonicninja115]

So I've labbing for a while and found this combo. It works on characters that can we tripped and still have a hitbox high enough for Diddy to hit them with a Dair that will auto cancel. (I don't know which characters this works on yet), but its like a 28-30% true combo. https://vine.co/v/eDa73WhewzT

Sweet! thanks, I will add this combo if it is okay with you(I will give you credit) and did you know that Sourspot dair Jab-locks? It can be used to further extend the combo with even more possibilities!

 

[Joeyd123]

So I tried the combo on a couple characters. https://vine.co/v/eDaJOEppKEE(Hype and I think I may have missed one hit of the Usmash so it could have been more damage)

I only tested it on some of the top tiers. I found it was really easy to land on Yoshi, Fox and Luigi. Easy on Rosalina as long as you don't hit Luma. It was pretty hard on Sheik, but I think with some practice its do-able. And it didn't work on ZSS.

EDIT: i tweeted ZeRo this link,but he said he didn't like it since it could be teched :/ while thats obviously true I still think most people would miss the tech especially if you only use it rarely

 

[Orocket]

Sweet! thanks, I will add this combo if it is okay with you(I will give you credit) and did you know that Sourspot dair Jab-locks? It can be used to further extend the combo with even more possibilities!

Ftilit jab-locks as well. But I dont think you can jab lock after a banana trip.

EDIT: Ftilit only jab-locks at low percents.

 

[Orocket]

So I tried the combo on a couple characters. https://vine.co/v/eDaJOEppKEE(Hype and I think I may have missed one hit of the Usmash so it could have been more damage)

I only tested it on some of the top tiers. I found it was really easy to land on Yoshi, Fox and Luigi. Easy on Rosalina as long as you don't hit Luma. It was pretty hard on Sheik, but I think with some practice its do-able. And it didn't work on ZSS.

EDIT: i tweeted ZeRo this link,but he said he didn't like it since it could be teched :/ while thats obviously true I still think most people would miss the tech especially if you only use it rarely

Yeah. Looking at it from a top player perspective it's not optimal because it can be teched. I understand what Zero is saying here. I'd say that you could pull it off maybe once or twice to surprise your opponent, but after that they will probably catch on and tech it. It's definitely a good combo to catch your opponent off guard though.

 

[Sonicninja115]

Why do you guys think the New-Haa is not being used yet? is it because people don't know about it or is it somehow flawed? Anyways, SKTAR is tomorrow and Angel and Jtails could do anything so hopefully they will use it, because it is a very good combo...

 

[Joeyd123]

Why do you guys think the New-Haa is not being used yet? is it because people don't know about it or is it somehow flawed? Anyways, SKTAR is tomorrow and Angel and Jtails could do anything so hopefully they will use it, because it is a very good combo...

Its not very good. It only works on some characters at specific percents and I believe and can be DI'd so that it is not a true combo

 

[Sonicninja115]

Its not very good. It only works on some characters at specific percents and I believe and can be DI'd so that it is not a true combo

I tested it on multiple characters at different percents to see if it would work and I found that it usually works between 5-50% total with shiek being 5 and ganondorf topping at 50% On characters like Mario it works at 9-40% and I checked DI, Forward, Down, and Up. The only one where it does not true combo is Back, but in that case there are many other combo string to pull off. It is a bit harder when DI'ed up and a bit harder then that when DI'ed down. However, it is still possible to make it true combo when DI'ed in those directions. These numbers might not be exactly accurate but these are the numbers I remember. Also, the DI options that make the combo more difficult are probably easier at certain percents, and there is most likely a percent window in which it doesn't matter which way they DI as long as you predict it. (which you have to do with any combo) Plus, it works at a larger percent window than Uthrow-Bair-Bair and yet Angel uses that combo.

 

[Pazx]

wtf is the new haa

this naming convention is dumb, say what the combo is

 

[Sonicninja115]

wtf is the new haa

this naming convention is dumb, say what the combo is

We talk about it on the previous page it is D-Throw-Monkey Flip Kick-Uair/Fair

 

[Joeyd123]

wtf is the new haa

this naming convention is dumb, say what the combo is

D1 named it that

 

[Sonicninja115]

wtf is the new haa

this naming convention is dumb, say what the combo is

Would you deny the Almighty D1 his rights?!? Also, I will test this combo to find the percents it works on with each character, including DI.

 

[Pazx]

d1 is dumb

 

[Orocket]

Would you deny the Almighty D1 his rights?!? Also, I will test this combo to find the percents it works on with each character, including DI.

Cool.

 

[Jpluma]

Great guide.. It's easy to see lots of work was put in to this.

Does anyone have videos (or easy explanations) of the combos involving the rockets?

 

[Sonicninja115]

Great guide.. It's easy to see lots of work was put in to this.

Does anyone have videos (or easy explanations) of the combos involving the rockets?

Check out My Smash Corners diddy video for one of them, but the one I mention is pretty simple.

How it works is that you have to be standing next to your opponent. then up B(you don't have to charge) and turn the rockets in a half circle into the ground. the first hit will launch the opponent into the second hit. If you do it right Diddy will hit them the first hit, and then when the barrels explode on the ground the opponent will also be hit. I hope this helps!

 

[Sonicninja115]

New-Haa
Dthrow-Monkey Flip Kick-Uair/Fair

Middleweights are going to take awhile, but I will update at the end of this week with the first half hopefully, so probably the 19th.

Spoiler: Super Heavyweight

Bowser
Fair:

Up- X
Down-0-48%
Back- X
Forward- 6-30%​

Uair:

Up- 10-15%
Down- 0-42%
Back- X
Forward- 5-13%​

Donkey Kong
Fair:

Up- X
Down-0-59%
Back- X
Forward- 0-50%​

Uair:

Up- 0-24%
Down- 0-45%
Back- X
Forward- 0-19%​

King Dedede
Fair:

Up- 0-18%
Down-0-47%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-20%
Down- 0-27%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Charizard
Fair:

Up- 0-10%
Down-0-48%
Back- X
Forward- 0-30%​

Uair:

Up- 0-7%
Down- 0-48%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Ganondorf
Fair:

Up- 5%
Down-0-58%
Back- X
Forward- 0-23%​

Uair:

Up- 0-17%
Down- 0-40%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Spoiler: Featherweight

Zelda
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-40%
Back- X
Forward- 8-19%​

Uair:

Up- 0-10%
Down- 0-27%
Back- X
Forward- 8%​

Shiek
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-49%
Back- X
Forward- 5-20%​

Uair:

Up- 0-15%
Down- 0-35%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Falco
Fair:

Up- 0-9%
Down- 0-33%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-17%
Down- 0-18%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Little Mac
Fair:

Up- 0-10%
Down- 0-42%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-17%
Down- 0-18%
Back- X
Forward- X​

ZSS
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-36%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-13%
Down- 0-27%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Meta Knight
Fair:

Up- 0-13%
Down- 0-45%
Back- X
Forward- 0-12%​

Uair:

Up- 0-20%
Down- 0-13%
Back- X
Forward- 0-5%​

Fox
Fair:

Up- 0-20%
Down- 0-30%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-25%
Down- 0-25%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Pikachu
Fair:

Up- 0-10%
Down- 0-43%
Back- X
Forward- 7-10%​

Uair:

Up- 0-20%
Down- 0-28%
Back- X
Forward- 7-10%​

Olimar
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-40%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-4%
Down- 0-18%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Rosalina & Luma
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-35%
Back- X
Forward- 6%​

Uair:

Up- 0-4%
Down- 0-25%
Back- X
Forward- 6-23%​

Kirby
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-36%
Back- X
Forward- 0-25%​

Uair:

Up- X
Down- 0-16%
Back- X
Forward- 0-4%​

Mr. Game and Watch
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-29%
Back- X
Forward- 0-10%​

Uair:

Up- X
Down- 0-12%
Back- X
Forward- 0​

Spoiler: Balloonweight

Mewtwo
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-45%
Back- X
Forward- 0-18%​

Uair:

Up- 0-8%
Down- 0-23%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Jigglypuff
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-26%
Back- X
Forward- 0-5%​

Uair:

Up- X
Down- 0-15%
Back- X
Forward- 0-3%​

Incomplete

Spoiler: Heavyweight

Bowser Jr.
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Samus
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Ike
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Wario
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

R.O.B.
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Captain Falcon
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Link
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Yoshi
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Ryu
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Shulk
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Megaman
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Lucario
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Spoiler: Middleweight

Mario
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Dr. Mario
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Villager
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Luigi
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Wii Fit Trainer
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Pit
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Dark Pit
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Robin
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Sonic
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Roy
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Pac-Man
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Greninja
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Ness
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Lucas
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Toon Link
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Diddy Kong
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Palutena
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Duck Hunt Dog
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Marth
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Lucina
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Peach
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

 

[Sonicninja115]

Sorry for the double post, but..... ZeRo used the New-Haa combo at PAX!!!

And does anyone know if Dthrow-Fair-Uair true combos?

 

[Orocket]

New-Haa
Dthrow-Monkey Flip Kick-Uair/Fair

Spoiler: Super Heavyweight

Bowser
Fair:

Up- X
Down-0-48%
Back- X
Forward- 6-30%​

Uair:

Up- 10-15%
Down- 0-42%
Back- X
Forward- 5-13%​

Donkey Kong
Fair:

Up- X
Down-0-59%
Back- X
Forward- 0-50%​

Uair:

Up- 0-24%
Down- 0-45%
Back- X
Forward- 0-19%​

King Dedede
Fair:

Up- 0-18%
Down-0-47%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-20%
Down- 0-27%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Charizard
Fair:

Up- 0-10%
Down-0-48%
Back- X
Forward- 0-30%​

Uair:

Up- 0-7%
Down- 0-48%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Ganondorf
Fair:

Up- 5%
Down-0-58%
Back- X
Forward- 0-23%​

Uair:

Up- 0-17%
Down- 0-40%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Spoiler: Featherweight

Zelda
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-40%
Back- X
Forward- 8-19%​

Uair:

Up- 0-10%
Down- 0-27%
Back- X
Forward- 8%​

Shiek
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-49%
Back- X
Forward- 5-20%​

Uair:

Up- 0-15%
Down- 0-35%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Falco
Fair:

Up- 0-9%
Down- 0-33%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-17%
Down- 0-18%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Little Mac
Fair:

Up- 0-10%
Down- 0-42%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-17%
Down- 0-18%
Back- X
Forward- X​

ZSS
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-36%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-13%
Down- 0-27%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Meta Knight
Fair:

Up- 0-13%
Down- 0-45%
Back- X
Forward- 0-12%​

Uair:

Up- 0-20%
Down- 0-13%
Back- X
Forward- 0-5%​

Fox
Fair:

Up- 0-20%
Down- 0-30%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-25%
Down- 0-25%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Pikachu
Fair:

Up- 0-10%
Down- 0-43%
Back- X
Forward- 7-10%​

Uair:

Up- 0-20%
Down- 0-28%
Back- X
Forward- 7-10%​

Olimar
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-40%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Uair:

Up- 0-4%
Down- 0-18%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Rosalina & Luma
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-35%
Back- X
Forward- 6%​

Uair:

Up- 0-4%
Down- 0-25%
Back- X
Forward- 6-23%​

Kirby
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-36%
Back- X
Forward- 0-25%​

Uair:

Up- X
Down- 0-16%
Back- X
Forward- 0-4%​

Mr. Game and Watch
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-29%
Back- X
Forward- 0-10%​

Uair:

Up- X
Down- 0-12%
Back- X
Forward- 0​

Spoiler: Balloonweight

Mewtwo
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-45%
Back- X
Forward- 0-18%​

Uair:

Up- 0-8%
Down- 0-23%
Back- X
Forward- X​

Jigglypuff
Fair:

Up- X
Down- 0-26%
Back- X
Forward- 0-5%​

Uair:

Up- X
Down- 0-15%
Back- X
Forward- 0-3%​

Incomplete

Spoiler: Heavyweight

Bowser Jr.
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Samus
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Ike
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Wario
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

R.O.B.
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Captain Falcon
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Link
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Yoshi
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Ryu
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Shulk
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Megaman
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Lucario
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Spoiler: Middleweight

Mario
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Dr. Mario
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Villager
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Luigi
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Wii Fit Trainer
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Pit
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Dark Pit
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Robin
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Sonic
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Roy
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Pac-Man
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Greninja
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Ness
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Lucas
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Toon Link
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Diddy Kong
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Palutena
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Duck Hunt Dog
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Marth
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Lucina
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Peach
Fair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Uair:

Up-
Down-
Back- X
Forward-​

Thanks for getting these percents. I see you're still adding to it! I hope to use this combo more after I have practiced it enough and get a feel for the percents.

 

[Sonicninja115]

Thanks for getting these percents. I see you're still adding to it! I hope to use this combo more after I have practiced it enough and get a feel for the percents.

For some reason I am becoming pretty adept at using it... I can't think why.

At Paragon MVD was trying to use Dthrow-Dair alot, however it never worked. It seems a bit to risky and luck based to be viable. But there might be a use for it that is yet unknown.

 

[Jaylowww]

Angel Cortes has also been using it a lot at 0% and it rarely works. It's because:
- You have to buffer the turnaround fullhop dair during the dthrow, and it's easy to mess it up
- The opponent can DI the dthrow so the dair doesn't connect
- Even if you land the dair, it doesn't send you in tumble so you can buffer a roll on the ground to avoid the follow-up

Funny thing is, I played against a top player from another region in a few dittos and he kept doing this to me. It kept working because I'm a bad player LOL

 

[Sonicninja115]

Angel Cortes has also been using it a lot at 0% and it rarely works. It's because:
- You have to buffer the turnaround fullhop dair during the dthrow, and it's easy to mess it up
- The opponent can DI the dthrow so the dair doesn't connect
- Even if you land the dair, it doesn't send you in tumble so you can buffer a roll on the ground to avoid the follow-up

Funny thing is, I played against a top player from another region in a few dittos and he kept doing this to me. It kept working because I'm a bad player LOL

There was a guy in the Banana set up thread lauding it's brilliance, I was/am still skeptical.

 

[Jaylowww]

You mean Dre89? We've played the same top player that I'm talking about in my post (Dre plays him more often than me) and that's where I think he got the idea from. The guy can make the combo work against most people because he's one of the best players in Australia, but against someone at his level, he opts for standard 0% grab combos.

If you watch top Diddy players (ZeRo, MVD, Angel and Zinoto come into mind), they rarely go for it even though the damage potential is there because there's better guaranteed options that you can do from a grab at around 0-20%.

 

[Sonicninja115]

You mean Dre89? We've played the same top player that I'm talking about in my post (Dre plays him more often than me) and that's where I think he got the idea from. The guy can make the combo work against most people because he's one of the best players in Australia, but against someone at his level, he opts for standard 0% grab combos.

If you watch top Diddy players (ZeRo, MVD, Angel and Zinoto come into mind), they rarely go for it even though the damage potential is there because there's better guaranteed options that you can do from a grab at around 0-20%.

Ahh, I asked him why top players rarely go for it and he thought it was because it wasn't widely known. It is a very difficult and not very guaranteed combo.

 

[APlainOldBanana]

FF nair can combo into any aerial =P

It's pretty great haha

I thought I was the only one who actually uses that move. Turns out I was wrong! I really love FF nair so much.

 

[Sonicninja115]

I thought I was the only one who actually uses that move. Turns out I was wrong! I really love FF nair so much.

I love it, a couple of times I have even been able to string them FF-Nair-Fair-FF Nair-Fair because my opponent DI'ed wrong.

 

[APlainOldBanana]

I love it, a couple of times I have even been able to string them FF-Nair-Fair-FF Nair-Fair because my opponent DI'ed wrong.

I think Diddy's Nair is just underrated in general haha

 

[Lylo]

Isnt it because it is unsafe on shield?

 

[APlainOldBanana]

Isnt it because it is unsafe on shield?

I believe it's unsafe on shield.

 

[Sonicninja115]

I believe it's unsafe on shield.

Yeah, it is definitely not safe on shield.

 

[exdee]

I found out that you can down throw and string together 3 upairs at early percents without rage
to manage to get the 3 depends on the opponents weight,how much percent they have,if the opponent is smart enough to air dodge in time and theyre hurtbox
For example you can land the 3 uairs on at 0% but to get the 3 on and you need to do around 5-11%? then dthrow and uair 3 times (most of this was done on training mode so landing the 3 uairs on an actual human being is unlikely)

 

[Sonicninja115]

I found out that you can down throw and string together 3 upairs at early percents without rage
to manage to get the 3 depends on the opponents weight,how much percent they have,if the opponent is smart enough to air dodge in time and theyre hurtbox
For example you can land the 3 uairs on at 0% but to get the 3 on and you need to do around 5-11%? then dthrow and uair 3 times (most of this was done on training mode so landing the 3 uairs on an actual human being is unlikely)

you have seen pre-patch diddy right? anyways, how many uairs true combo'd one or two? because the second might link/true but the third is definitely avoidable. There are also better combos to do at these percents. on heavy/ medium characters you can do dthrow-Bair and that will set them at the perfect percentage for the New-Haa. and on light characters, 0% is the best percent for the New-Haa and other combos like Uthrow-Dair.