December 21st, 2012. The end of days?

[GoldShadow]

oh yeah for major global warming lulz, it snowed yesterday. In NE US. Where we don't get snow until FEBRUARY.

I don't think you quite understand global warming...

 

[AltF4]

Omg, goldshadow! 3333 posts! Enjoy it for a moment.

 

[Sieged Eagle]

I don't believe in what the Mayan calendar says about the end of the days to be honest. It's just like the Nostradamus end of the world predictions, they fail in the end. Personally, when that day comes we will still live like normal folks...

But there's that giant asteroid which scientists are saying that it is threathening to destroy the whole Earth in the future, and say that it is difficult to move out of place so it doesn't crash on the Earth, so if the prediction is true, that asteroid might fall on the Earth and destroy all life upon it, although I doubt it'll happen, as scientists are trying to find a way to destroy this beast.

Also, there are predictions on the Bible mentioned on the chapter of the Revelations of John the Apostole, speaking about 4 knights of Judgment that would mean the end of the world, and the Rapture, which is the taking of people who respected and followed the rules of God, and that repented by heart to Heaven, while the rest of the people would suffer from the 7 seals of the Apocalypse, that is, each seal being broken when one angel blew from his horn, but I can't recall correctly what it says. As much as I am Christian, I somehow think this might be fake but then again, there have been many times where I've seen proof that God exists, so I do think this might be true. Besides, many people are mentioning that the time is near, but we will see...

 

[slick128]

The only way I would believe the world is coming to an end is if the world was actually doing unusual.

 

[Cs_Nexus]

http://www.december212012.com/

As some of you may know, on December 21, 2012, the Mayan calendar comes to an end. A lot of people are curious as to what will happen. Some think the sun's gonna explode, other think a humongous financial crash is gonna occur.

Personally, I think the seasons are gonna get flipped around or something weird like that.

I have the answer for this one and it dates to the oldest known text from Sumerian scrolls.. there is a 10th planet in our solar system Nibiru(planet X) that in 2012 will pass very close to Earth. Close enof to cause mass Earth canges or the end of the world.... but that a secret lokk it up!

 

[Zink]

lol guys I was jokin around... it's a reference to the fact that many liberals around here try to use late winters as evidence for global warming... I'm not dumb enough to think local changes are significant in any way... lol...
PS: how could the Sumerians see this 10th planet when you can barely see half of them w/o a telescope? also, VERY lacking on details, i.e. mass, rotational period, orbit radius, magnetic field y/n, atmospheric composition, surface temperature night/day, WHY THE HECK IT HAS AN ORBIT THAT APPROACHES EARTH ONCE IN THOUSANDS OF YEARS... lol...

 

[Cs_Nexus]

lol guys I was jokin around... it's a reference to the fact that many liberals around here try to use late winters as evidence for global warming... I'm not dumb enough to think local changes are significant in any way... lol...
PS: how could the Sumerians see this 10th planet when you can barely see half of them w/o a telescope? also, VERY lacking on details, i.e. mass, rotational period, orbit radius, magnetic field y/n, atmospheric composition, surface temperature night/day, WHY THE HECK IT HAS AN ORBIT THAT APPROACHES EARTH ONCE IN THOUSANDS OF YEARS... lol...

Well for full details you need to do your own research... but hes the short of it

here is orbit

Notice 12 planets in top left between guys around the sun. and one more to the right

nice picture... of them. with ratio sizes. Nibiru is the big red one

Now that you read the picture book research it!!!!

 

[Zink]

wait I need more data for reasearch! is it a gas giant or solid rocky?

 

[Wikipedia]

Wait, I need more data for research! Is it a gas giant or solid rocky?

Those are the only two options?

 

[Zink]

shhhhh

Spoiler

IT WAS A FALSE DILEMMA TRAP, SILLY

so? answer?
on to what matters, it's not like scientists can calculate the orbit of any moving body or anything. With simple math. Really easy to do. As in, if there was a huge massive hidden planet, we'd have seen the perturbations on the outers by now. That's how Pluto was discovered!

 

[Cs_Nexus]

shhhhh

Spoiler

IT WAS A FALSE DILEMMA TRAP, SILLY

so? answer?
on to what matters, it's not like scientists can calculate the orbit of any moving body or anything. With simple math. Really easy to do. As in, if there was a huge massive hidden planet, we'd have seen the perturbations on the outers by now. That's how Pluto was discovered!

they say pluto isnt a planet!
so why would they tell you about nibiru??? eh?? mr.thinksheknows

BUT TRUE OR NOT THATs WHAT THE predictions have been based on!

 

[Wikipedia]

Think she knows?

 

[C@sH Mooney]

http://www.december212012.com/

As some of you may know, on December 21, 2012, the Mayan calendar comes to an end. A lot of people are curious as to what will happen. Some think the sun's gonna explode, other think a humongous financial crash is gonna occur.

Personally, I think the seasons are gonna get flipped around or something weird like that.

What do you guys think? Oh, and you can be a little silly with it, just not too much.

i saw this special on the history channel about a month ago i think

im worried because more then one thing predicts this

the I Ching,the REAL merlin,Nostradamus.etc

they all predict this

all i can do is hope,hope thats not going to happen

as well as 12/21/12,there are other things that could kills us all

gamma ray burst's,if a gamma ray burst happened within 1 million light years of us our atmosphere would break and the world would basicly be destroyed

Research has been conducted to investigate the consequences of Earth being hit by a beam of gamma rays from a nearby (about 500 light years) gamma ray burst. This is motivated by the efforts to explain mass extinctions on Earth and estimate the probability of extraterrestrial life. A consensus seems to have been arrived at the fact that damage by a gamma ray burst would be very limited because of its very short duration, and the fact that it would only cover half the Earth, the other half being in its shadow. A sufficiently close gamma ray burst would however, result in serious damage to the atmosphere, perhaps instantly wiping out half the ozone layer, and causing nitrogen-oxygen recombination, thereby generating acidic nitrogen oxides. These effects could diffuse across to the other side of the Earth and result in long-term climate and atmospheric changes and a mass extinction. However, the damage from a gamma ray burst would probably be significantly greater than a supernova at the same distance.

The idea that a nearby gamma-ray burst could significantly affect the Earth's atmosphere and potentially cause severe damage to the biosphere was introduced in 1995 by physicist Stephen Thorsett, then at Princeton University.[31] In 2005, Scientists at NASA and the University of Kansas released a more detailed study which suggested that the Ordovician-Silurian extinction events which occurred 450 million years ago could have been triggered by a gamma-ray burst. The scientists do not have direct evidence to suggest that such a burst resulted in the ancient extinction, rather the strength of their work is their atmospheric modeling, essentially a "what if" scenario. The scientists calculated that gamma-ray radiation from a relatively nearby star explosion, hitting the Earth for only ten seconds, could deplete up to half of the atmosphere's protective ozone layer, the recovery for which would take at least five years. With the ozone layer damaged, ultraviolet radiation from the Sun would kill much of the life on land and near the surface of oceans and lakes, disrupting the food chain. While gamma-ray bursts in our Milky Way galaxy are indeed rare, NASA scientists estimate that at least one nearby event has probably hit the Earth in the past billion years. Life on Earth is at least 3.5 billion years old. Dr. Bruce Lieberman, a paleontologist at the University of Kansas, originated the idea that a gamma-ray burst specifically could have caused the great Ordovician extinction. He said, "We do not know exactly when one came, but we're rather sure it did come - and left its mark. What's most surprising is that just a 10-second burst can cause years of devastating ozone damage."[32]

Comparative work in 2006 on galaxies in which GRBs have occurred suggests that metal-deficient galaxies are the most likely candidates. The likelihood of the metal-rich Milky Way galaxy hosting a GRB was estimated at less than 0.15%, significantly reducing the likelihood that a burst had caused mass extinction events on Earth.[33]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray_burst

 

[teeman92]

Nibiru?? when did they find this planet? it looks cool, is it a gassy or a solid,please say solid?

i just researceh and found planet X was been found,and nibiru was fake =/

 

[Zink]

planet x/nibiru/tiamat whatever are all just random conspiracy theory junk. there's no actual science behind them at all. just an icon invoked by the weak minded to explain why the government is a huge evil conspiracy built to hide the existence of alien races or something like that.
gamma ray bursts are more plausible, but really are pretty rare. not to say they aren't a threat. I can imagine in the future people trying to create a magnetic sheild for protection.

 

[teeman92]

planet x/nibiru/tiamat whatever are all just random conspiracy theory junk. there's no actual science behind them at all. just an icon invoked by the weak minded to explain why the government is a huge evil conspiracy built to hide the existence of alien races or something like that.
gamma ray bursts are more plausible, but really are pretty rare. not to say they aren't a threat. I can imagine in the future people trying to create a magnetic sheild for protection.

good point,we made those in Corneria

btw,i think the world could end by a black hole/asteriod, or the ozone fading

 

[ArticulateT]

I'm hoping that the Mayans are wrong. heck, aren't we all?

I mean, we lived past Nostrodamus' deadline, there's a possibility that the mayans may be wrong too.

alot of self-appointed seers have been wrong, what makes the mayans different?

however. I can't just discard every possibility.

My prediction? well, I read the theory, and it said that the fourth age (this age) is the final age. this would mean that if we do get wiped out, we don't get re-made.

what happens to us would most likley be the ultimate natural disaster. what becomes of us is what scares me the most.

that, and it seems that I'll be dead at the age of 22

 

[Dodongo]

You guys are idiots.

 

[cF=)]

I don't think you quite understand global warming...

Like most people "against" global warming do.

 

[Cs_Nexus]

How is it? That there is detailed information about planets on the walls of the luxor pyramid that we have only found to be true very recently thru advance tech.
people knew more about our universe than we did. we are all rediscovering this.


Just a simple question for the closed minded!

so why is it so hard to believe a planet X is going to possibly destroy us?

personally I think thats like saying i dont believe our earths crust used to be one big mass.. cause it was.

 

[Eor]

You guys are idiots.

Hear hear !

 

[Zink]

the Luxor Pyramid is, according to google, a hotel in Las Vegas... are you kidding me? seriously. a Las Vegas hotel holds ultimate truth? discovered through "advance tech"? what does that even mean? none of what you say makes any sense or has any factual backing
PS Eor/Dodongo we are TRYING to solve the mysteries of Las Vegas here so you can just butt out ok.

 

[Flipstar]

this is a bunch of nonsense, if this ends up happening then the Mayans deserve a cookie >.>

 

[Cs_Nexus]

the Luxor Pyramid is, according to google, a hotel in Las Vegas... are you kidding me? seriously. a Las Vegas hotel holds ultimate truth? discovered through "advance tech"? what does that even mean? none of what you say makes any sense or has any factual backing
PS Eor/Dodongo we are TRYING to solve the mysteries of Las Vegas here so you can just butt out ok.

true dat it is non sence... lol i just meant pyraminds i have no idea why i put luxor lol... oops!

and by technology i meant modern science.

 

[smashplayer16]

this could be a possibility. Their is a piece treaty set up by Isreal and surrounding nations for 7 years. On the third year(2012) the contract is broken by the antichrist. So if piece treaty is set up in 2009 that means it could be the end of the world in 2012, not the earth but the world as we know it. Lots of Choas.

 

[Rodzilla]

this could be a possibility. Their is a piece treaty set up by Isreal and surrounding nations for 7 years. On the third year(2012) the contract is broken by the antichrist. So if piece treaty is set up in 2009 that means it could be the end of the world in 2012, not the earth but the world as we know it. Lots of Choas.

Where'd you get this info from? I heard Palestine and Israel are working towards some kind of treaty right now.

 

[smashplayer16]

Jack Vinn Impe ministries, John hagee, just about any televangelist. Google bible phropochy.

 

[not_that_good]

um...sorry to ruin this for you, but...
the world isn't going to end in 2012. know why?
the mayans calendar was only 33 seconds off, i must admit that's pretty accurate. BUT the mayans calendar had cycles in it, and once a cycle ended a new cycle would begin. since there are no more mayans around to create another cycle it's simply the end of the mayan cycles because there are no more mayans around to make another one.
hope that cleared things up.

 

[Jammer]

I'm sure there are plenty of Mayans around.

I mean, the Mayan culture is dead, but I'm sure there are many direct descendants still alive. I'm not sure what you mean, not_that_good.

 

[Vinnie275]

Everyone has something to say but no one can back up their sources.

How do you expect people to believe you unless you show proof.

 

[not_that_good]

there is proof that the mayan culture is dead, there are no more mayans to begin the next cycle. it is simply the end of their cycles. i know that there are mayan descendants, my spanish teacher is one of them. however i would need scientific evidence to say something such as "we will run out of natural resources by 2050" and that is a fact. scientific studies have proven both of the above.

 

[Zink]

ntg, that clears up nothing whatsoever. Why does there need to be Mayas (NOT Mayans, which is improper) for a calendar cycle to start? The concept makes no sense. Calendars are not "started" by people when a new one rolls around. Also, please specify what you mean by "both of the above" in your last post.

 

[Wikipedia]

ntg, that clears up nothing whatsoever. Why does there need to be Mayas (NOT Mayans, which is improper) for a calendar cycle to start? The concept makes no sense. Calendars are not "started" by people when a new one rolls around. Also, please specify what you mean by "both of the above" in your last post.

Calendars are completely controlled by their creators. There are constant changes being made to our calendar, there are more generalizations done with calendars than most people think. For example, there is a leap year every fours except when the digit ends in -00 which are not evenly divisible by 400.

Additionally, in 8000 years the calendar may or may not be a day behind because of the length of the vernal equinox.

Calendars are not perfect.

 

[Zink]

Calendars are completely controlled by their creators. There are constant changes being made to our calendar, there are more generalizations done with calendars than most people think. For example, there is a leap year every fours except when the digit ends in -00 which are not evenly divisible by 400.

Additionally, in 8000 years the calendar may or may not be a day behind because of the length of the vernal equinox.

Calendars are not perfect.

I am perfectly aware of calendrical error. However, to imply that the creators need to exist at certain times to ensure the calendar's existence itself is invalid.

 

[Jammer]

Mayas (NOT Mayans, which is improper)

I always thought it was "Maya peoples" and "Mayans". I've never heard "Mayas" before.

But I agree that it doesn't matter who's alive for a calendar to be valid. Right now, our calendar is designed to be accurate for the next bajillion years. Wikipedia talked about the calendar's creators being around to compensate for the errors in the calendar, but I don't see how that matters.

Why can't December 21st, 2012 be the correct day? Why does it matter if the Mayans (is that really wrong, Zink?) thought that December 21st would be a day in spring or something? Who cares if they thought it would be noon when it's really 10:00?

 

[Zink]

afaik, Mayan is the adjective and Maya is the noun.

 

[GreatClayMonkey]

I'm a huge skeptic so I'm gonna say nothing happens I mean why should it just because some people didn't make their calender go any further

 

[KaptKRool]

You realize the reason the cycle in the Mayan calender ends is because the Earth will pass through the equator of the solar system into the southern hemisphere?


Basically, the solar system, like the earth, has a middle line, called the equator, and the two halves of the solar system's mostly empty space are the hemispheres. We call them the North and South hemispheres, and on the winter solstice in 2012, as the Mayans predicted, the earth will pass the equator.

Most people believe the Earth's magnetic poles are controlled in part by the sun, and that by passing through the equator, the magnetic poles will reverse. This doesn't mean the end of life on earth though.

If this does happen, nobody really knows what will happen. Some scientists predict all that will happen is things reliant on magnets will cease to work or just be reversed and be all screwy, while others believe that due to the shift, tides will be affected and there will be mass flooding. Probably the worst expectation is that the poles will realign themselves where the equator is, and vice versa, causing the frozen ice caps to melt, which will cause the mass floods, as well as cause completely changed climates, which won't exactly end life on earth, but make it a lot harder to survive.


Personally, I think the Mayans might be correct, considering their calender is the most accurate calender to date. And if I'm not mistaken, the calender's cycles match up pretty well to the changes in the earth's magnetic pole-switches. However, I doubt that will cause the ice caps to melt and volcanoes to erupt and earthquakes and all sorts of other apocalyptic disasters. But, it just might be the actual Y2K, in that all electronics dependent on magnetics, and all electricity and power sources dependent on them as well, could be effed up and stop working.

But like everyone else, I'm hoping for the best, that nothing will change, except all compasses on earth will suddenly change direction at once.

 

[Zink]

You realize the reason the cycle in the Mayan calender ends is because the Earth will pass through the equator of the solar system into the southern hemisphere?


Basically, the solar system, like the earth, has a middle line, called the equator, and the two halves of the solar system's mostly empty space are the hemispheres. We call them the North and South hemispheres, and on the winter solstice in 2012, as the Mayans predicted, the earth will pass the equator.

Most people believe the Earth's magnetic poles are controlled in part by the sun, and that by passing through the equator, the magnetic poles will reverse. This doesn't mean the end of life on earth though.

If this does happen, nobody really knows what will happen. Some scientists predict all that will happen is things reliant on magnets will cease to work or just be reversed and be all screwy, while others believe that due to the shift, tides will be affected and there will be mass flooding. Probably the worst expectation is that the poles will realign themselves where the equator is, and vice versa, causing the frozen ice caps to melt, which will cause the mass floods, as well as cause completely changed climates, which won't exactly end life on earth, but make it a lot harder to survive.


Personally, I think the Mayans might be correct, considering their calender is the most accurate calender to date. And if I'm not mistaken, the calender's cycles match up pretty well to the changes in the earth's magnetic pole-switches. However, I doubt that will cause the ice caps to melt and volcanoes to erupt and earthquakes and all sorts of other apocalyptic disasters. But, it just might be the actual Y2K, in that all electronics dependent on magnetics, and all electricity and power sources dependent on them as well, could be effed up and stop working.

But like everyone else, I'm hoping for the best, that nothing will change, except all compasses on earth will suddenly change direction at once.

Your entire concept is wrong. It is the Galatic equator that we are crossing, not the Solar. In addition, the Sun's magnetic field is not powerful enough to suddenly reverse our own. In fact, a polar reversal normally takes at least a few hundred years. There is no evidence at all to support the idea that a magnetic reversal could take place suddenly or that it would have any catastrophic effects if it did. Plus, what possible influence could the Mayan calendar have on this? Just because they invented a reasonably accurate calendar does not mean they could determine the end of the world from mythical geomagnetic forces.

 

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I don't want to feed the fire, but..



I don't believe this nonsense at all but here's an article that I found amusing, the polar ice caps could melt by 2012

COINCIDENCE???