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JFox

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Why don't you just CC grab? :laugh: Foxes like cactuar and jman get away from nair spamming the **** out of falcon players, and they dont even bother trying something new.

Seriously, I'm tired of people getting away with using bad strategies and not being punished. CC>Fox/Falco nair. Use it!

That is all :)
 

Strong Badam

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Shine....?
that **** doesn't work with DK, i can say that much.
 

KirbyKaze

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Why don't you just CC grab? :laugh: Foxes like cactuar and jman get away from nair spamming the **** out of falcon players, and they dont even bother trying something new.

Seriously, I'm tired of people getting away with using bad strategies and not being punished. CC>Fox/Falco nair. Use it!

That is all :)
Low Nair and overshooting counter this entirely. It also has two flaws you don't recognize, which are

Falcon's grab range =/= Marth grab range.

Falcon's grab =/= Peach D-smash speed.

You can sometimes get lucky with a hitbox grab (Falcon grab hitbox is so close to his body) if they try to overshoot, but beyond that Falcon's grab range is bad.
 

Strong Badam

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yeah, foxes around Bum's time didn't really know about this ****. it doesn't work so much anymore, because shffl'd nairs are usually delayed because of how much Falcon/DK/a lot of chars rely on grabs vs. spacies.
 

DrewB008

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i cc fox's nair most of the time i get hit by it if i can but generally with falcon you can avoid getting hit

if falcon gets hit by fox's nair usually fox beat one of your aerials or caught you out of a dashdance or jump or something, all of which you cant cc during

plus yeah as kirbykaze said, a lot of time you wont be in range to land the grab afterwards, i usually just cc shield or roll just to avoid a combo

and about falco, dont bet on cc working wonders because it wont help vs dair, which theyll use in pretty much every situation where it would be a good idea to cc vs him
 

unknown522

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if falcon gets hit by fox's nair usually fox beat one of your aerials or caught you out of a dashdance or jump or something, all of which you cant cc during
You can CC during DDing. It's pretty much the only thing europhoria does with every character.

Why don't you just CC grab? :laugh: Foxes like cactuar and jman get away from nair spamming the **** out of falcon players, and they dont even bother trying something new.

Seriously, I'm tired of people getting away with using bad strategies and not being punished. CC>Fox/Falco nair. Use it!

That is all :)
Falcon's CC sucks comparatively to the high / top tier characters. You can do CC -> falcon kick sometimes and catch them off guard. Raptor boost is much more punishable, but it may dodge a move randomly like falcon kick. CC -> grab may work, but not consistently enough to be worth using. His other moves are too slow to CC into something.




Also, off topic: Big D, do you remember me from ROM? We did that friendly match with reno and eggm.
 

DrewB008

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unknown i remember playing you in pools at that atlanta tournament and me and watty playing you and raynex in teams for the tournament at rom, but i dont remember doing that match you mentioned

and yeah you can cc during dd but youre probably going to try to dd grab
 

unknown522

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unknown i remember playing you in pools at that atlanta tournament and me and watty playing you and raynex in teams for the tournament at rom, but i dont remember doing that match you mentioned
We on the opposite end of the enterance at the table in the middle of the room. We played a bunch of friendlies. Them eggm wanted to warm up, so he did 1 teams friendly with reno. We won the match, then they left. I though you were some random, but I remembered that you were Big D later on.

At georgia, what pool did we play in? Was it round 2 with M2K and DJ nintendo? Or was it round 1 with all the random players?

I also remember the teams set at ROM. You used sheik IIRC. You also played KK first round at ROM right?

On topic:
and yeah you can cc during dd but youre probably going to try to dd grab
True. It's better to avoid the attack than to CC it.
 

R3N0

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i like my name being mentioned.. it makes me feel popular :-D!
 

unknown522

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i like my name being mentioned.. it makes me feel popular :-D!
HI RENO!!

Everyone was doing it, I just wanted to look cool.

it was round 1 and you kinda wrecked me so im not surprised you dont remember

and yeah i fought kk in losers bracket at rom, had him on the ropes but he pulled it out
- Oh ****, no offense, but that was the easiest pool I ever had in a US tourney. You were falcon?

- I lost 1 game to carter though in that pool, then 4-stocked him on FD. His family was cheering for him. It was cute.

- vs KK, sounds like you did well against him.
 

unknown522

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You most likely will. I saw you in the crew battle from genesis, you look a lot better now.

If I see you at a tourney, I can get some good falcon practice.
 

Europhoria

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I CC out of Dash Dance alot? Maybe, but I don't think I do with Falcon... I mostly just shield now with whoever because late n-air/d-air beat the CC and most people tend to approach with that stuff more now anyways.
 

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uhh well spaced nairs are about the only way to beat Fox's nair. dashdancing can work if they **** up their execution but that's about it.
 
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