Dark feint

[Z1GMA]

After seeing Kosk perform that crazy Fair-thingy Vs Superboom at Norfair, I started to mess around with its possibilities.

It's pretty cool, especially when followed up with Gerudo.

This video contains the "Dark feint" (ledge canceled Gerudo), plus some other alternatives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_wiunOGmao

Cool huh? You don't even see Ganon fall off.

But why would Gerudo be the best follow up?
- It doesn't necessary have to be the best follow up, but here's my thoughts:

When they shield the jab/Ftilt which both are the hitting type, I believe there's a chance that they'll also shield the Uair/Fair.

But with Gerudos grab properties you can catch them off guard.. err, I mean while they ARE guarding/shielding.
After all, it's the opponents shield which makes this possible in the first palce.

But yea! if they drop their shield after the jab/Ftilt, the aerials should be more effective than Gerudo.

I just thought hit attack -> instant grab attack has a better success rate.

 

[@HomE]

Very sweet, good job!

off the top of my head... if you do this on stages like halberd or delfino, would you get a Ganoncide or would you still be above the stage

can you use any attack to push yourself off the edge?

 

[hyperstation]

I like it. I don't quite see the point in the gerudo follow up, unless you just wanted the extra % that an aerial gerudo does relative to a ground gerudo. I see a lot more potential in the UAir and FAir. Nicely done.

@Home, yes, you CAN use any aerial, but I imagine that Z1GMA is using jab because it's really quick and doesn't knock the character too far back and out of range.

 

[Z1GMA]

if you do this on stages like halberd or delfino, would you get a Ganoncide or would you still be above the stage

I dunno; haven't tried it.

I like it. I don't quite see the point in the gerudo follow up.
I see a lot more potential in the UAir and FAir

You're probably right, DAD.
However, my thoughts were:
When they shield the jab/Ftilt which both are the hitting type, I believe there's a chance that they'll also shield the Uair/Fair.

But with Gerudos grab properties you can catch them off guard.. err, I mean while they ARE guarding/shielding.
After all, it's the opponents shield which makes this possible in the first palce.

But yea! if they drop their shield after the jab/Ftilt, the aerials should be more effective than Gerudo.

I just thought hit attack -> instant grab attack has a better success rate : )

 

[@HomE]

I dunno; haven't tried it.

You're probably right, DAD.
However, my thoughts were:
When they shield the jab/Ftilt which both are the hitting type, I believe there's a chance that they'll also shield the Uair/Fair.

But with Gerudos grab properties you can catch them off guard.. err, I mean while they ARE guarding/shielding.
After all, it's the opponents shield which makes this possible in the first palce.

But yea! if they drop their shield after the jab/Ftilt, the aerials should be more effective than Gerudo.

I just thought hit attack -> instant grab attack has a better success rate : )

Yea i like the idea of the Gerudo to catch them off guard if they try to shield, and if they roll away from the edge... let the chokechaining begin

I'm also VERY curious about the Ganoncide possibilites(on delfino and halberd) from this also...

 

[AgentJGV]

Good discovery but i think it'll only be useful in certain situations. Good find though!

 

[Ray_Kalm]

Good discovery but i think it'll only be useful in certain situations. Good find though!

You seem to be fond of pointing out the obvious.

 

[AgentJGV]

You seem to be fond of pointing out the obvious.

hey the obvious is for those who cant see the obvious.....wait....nvm.

 

[studly]

Slowly... we shall force ganon to rise

 

[Z1GMA]

Good discovery but i think it'll only be useful in certain situations. Good find though!

I wouldn't call it a find. It's more like a notice.
but thx