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Dancing by myself.

Vyse

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Link to original post: [drupal=1533]Dancing by myself.[/drupal]

It’s 2:30am when I started writing this and I’m here to tell you that I’m not good with women, honestly.

For the most part, I didn’t speak to girls at all during my time at school, a situation that didn’t really change until my last year of schooling. It’s a lack of experience in all honesty. Working in Retail helped though, being a register hand in a department store meant that most of my closest colleagues were women.

Oddly though, they don’t seem to have a problem finding their way to me. I was asked out twice during the year that I worked in retail. One I refused because she was hairier than me >.> The other, well, I didn’t quite realise she was asking me out til faaaar too late.

Her: “So if you like someone, what do you normally do?”
Me: “Well usually I talk to them...a lot” I was just being honest, but I completely cut her in half with that.

But I mean COME ON, how was I supposed to read that as “Will you go out with me?”

The problem I tend to have is that once I ‘have’ them, I don’t know what to do. It’s like having a fish caught, but not knowing how to reel them in.

Today (Well, yesterday...May 3rd) was my dad’s birthday, so I got up, wished him a happy bday, gave him a card, all that jazz. The rest of the day up til about 2 o’clock was pretty average. A mixture of Smashboards and Uni work taking up my time.

At about 2 in the afternoon I get a call from one of my very best friends. Alex. He’s a tall, dark skinned guy with an aptitude for computers and working with them. I’ve known him since high school and I have to say, he’s one of the nicest guys I know.

So he calls me and asks me to come out to Brisbane with him. Brisbane is the capital city of Queensland, and about an hour’s drive away. He wants me to come along because he’s driving a couple of girls to a gig in Brisbane, and figured we could go hit up a club or something while we’re there and shuffle it up.

Okay, I should explain what I mean. By ‘Shuffle’, I mean ‘Melbourne Shuffle’ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPaMdxC6CQI) which simply put, is an Australian dance involving a lot of foot work which looks like the dancer is gliding along the ground. Though a lot of kids these days use the term ‘Shuffle’ interchangeably with ‘Melbourne Shuffle’ and the popular deviant ‘Hardstyling’ which is a much more energetic, aggressive and stompy version. That’s driven a lot of people to refer to Melbourne Shuffle as ‘Softstyling’ which seems to describe it pretty well given that it’s the opposite. That’s not to say either is better than the other, I quite like both, and like to think my shuffling lies somewhere between them.

I first learned to shuffle when I was in my last year of school. My friends got into it and so did I. I even bought shoes specifically for it (which I still wear daily somehow). I’d fallen out of practice and pretty much believed myself to be utter trash at it (still do) throughout 2008, to the point where I’d usually refuse when people asked me to shuffle for them.

At a friend’s 18th birthday the other weekend though, Alex asked me to shuffle, and of course I said no at first, but eventually he got me to with the right music playing (though only for short bursts as I didn’t really want to anyway).

He asked me to teach him, and for some reason I was compelled to, to help him get it right. The more I taught him, the more the original vigour I had for the dance came back to me. The next day I was watching youtube videos, watching famous shufflers from aus, and watching compilations, and I could feel the bug taking over me again.

So when Alex asked me to come out, it didn’t take much to convince me. Given the ‘ok’ from my dad (it was his birthday after all), I told him to come get me whenever he was ready. When he arrived in his BMW, I was out the door, armed with nothing but a hoodie to shuffle in later that night and a can of deodorant.

That’s when I met the two girls Alex was taking to Brisbane with us (so they could see a live show with a metal band named ‘Morningtide’. Y’know, guitar, drums, screaming male lead). Alex’s friend, Steph, sat in the seat behind Alex. A blonde girl wearing a band around her head and a shirt that read ‘I <3 Suomi’ which apparently means ‘I love Finland’. The other girl, Jesse-lee, a skinny girl with brown hair sat in the seat behind me. Alex didn’t know Jesse-lee, so it would be interesting to talk to both of them.

There’s a lot I could throw into this recount to make it interesting, like how we got halfway to Brisbane, but had to turn back because the girls forgot their tickets (>.>) or how Alex realised that since he was only on his provisional license, he wasn’t legally allowed to drive all of us after 11pm, but I really want to just finish this blog and go back to my Uni work, so I’ll be as succinct as I can.

After dropping the girls off, we got to the original reason why I was sold on going out. No, it wasn’t for the clubbing, but actually to go out and buy some clothes. I’m coming to America for Genesis, so I really needed to up my meagre supply of clothes (I rarely spend money on clothes sadly). To our dismay though, everything was shut. Everything! We figured things would stay open, as though the city ran on its own clock, but here in Queensland, things tend to close quite early every night barring Thursdays (late night shopping night).

So with nothing to buy, we decided it was time to buy something to eat. A quaint little asian restaurant down some street was our destination. An asian woman our waiter bought us our menus and I ended up ordering a plate of Mee Goreng noodles. Cheap, tasty, filling. A winning formula really.

We left to go pick up the girls from the riverside music entertainment show that we left them at. The Morningtide show wouldn’t start til later that night at a club named ‘Rosies’. We took them from there to Rosies and left them there again where we assumed they would stay until Morningtide came on stage.

Alex and I decided to hit up a computer LAN place called ‘The Bunker’ to check up on the internet whether there was anything interesting happening tonight (rave/club part wise). We got there, and it was a room full of ancient (by my standards) computers and CRT monitors. A bunch of kids playing DotA and a few posters advertising a Left 4 Dead night catching my eye. A quick google search on one of the computers didn’t turn up anything though.

That was alright though, since there are clubs all over the place, just a matter of finding them. Before that though, we decided we’d go hit up the Casino. Crowns is a big Casino in the middle of Brisbane, although it’s not as nice as Conrad Jupiters on the Gold Coast.

We ended up playing Black Jack. Shortly after starting, the girls called, wanting to come find us. Eventually they would find us, Alex holding on by the skin of his teeth. We managed to walk away with $75, $25 more than what Alex had put down.

We headed back to Rosies and went in. The club is separated into two distinct halves. Like a U shape the building is separated by a wall that you have to walk around to get to the other side. On the entrance side is a dance floor and a bar. The DJ playing some good club music.

The other side had another bar, and a stage where live bands (including Morningtide) would be playing throughout the evening.

To be perfectly honest, I found being on the bands side interesting, but boring. It was interesting because I’d never witnessed the exact dynamics of a mosh pit. People going nuts, trying to bash anyone that entered their limited personal space. At least, when Morningtide finally got up to play, that’s what it was like. The crowd was reasonably tame until then.

Once Alex had moshed enough, we both went over to the other side (mostly because I wanted to get a drink). There were a lot more people now, all dancing on the floor in the middle of the room. Vodka in hand, Alex and I moved to one side where we could kind of dance while I was trying to drink.

It was pretty amazing. I was shuffling, ‘I’m on a Boat’ was playing. Since last weekend, Alex had gotten a little better at shuffling, but was still having trouble with it. Once I’d finished my drink, I could dance more freely. Gliding back and forth. People were taking notice too, the women (says Alex) were sizing me up as I did my thing.

One girl was practically standing next to me, watching my feet. I didn’t notice her until Alex said to me “Teach her” with a smile. That’s when I looked up. She was pretty attractive to say the least. Straight, brown hair, amazing face, quite skinny, but very attractive. I shuffled slowly, and she tried to follow, though, I don’t think it’s physically possible to shuffle in high heels (without breaking something at least).

Here’s why I’m not good with women it seems. She was laughing and having fun and was trying to get a dance close to me. But the thing is, Shuffling is a one man dance, and by continuing to shuffle I was practically ignoring her. Alex tells me she walked away in a huff, though I didn’t notice it at all.

That’s what he explained to me after we left to get some fresh air. He said to me, “You teach me shuffle, and I’ll teach you women”.

It would seem like an opportunity lost, but, I had fun I guess. It’s another example though, of me misreading on opportunity, and there have been other times which I haven’t mentioned in this which are largely because of the same reason.

Bah, it’ll work itself out.
Right now I’m more interested in getting a new hoodie and glow in the dark suspenders : 3

- Anthony
 

ndayday

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I felt bad that no one commented on this. :laugh:

Good luck learning women, and for the fish comparison, you just have to get the right bait, then reel em' in. Whether you let them go or if you think they're keepers is up to you now though, eh? /silly continuation of the simile you gave
 

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I was gonna comment on this in the morning, but I had to go to school.

Good luck with the girls Vyse. I'll teach you Marth if you teach me the "Melbourne Shuffle."


:p
 

Vyse

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Thanks guys :p

I should also note that the youtube video I linked is hardstyle. lmao.

EDIT:
NAKEDeDeDe, I have the right bait I think.
If I take the following steps:

1. Dance at parties/clubs
2. Get Women Interested
3. ????
4. Profit (Get their number, etc.)

I normally stumble at step 3.
 

OutlawStar

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Ooooh, an enjoyable post :)
Girls for me it is more like
1.????
2.????
3.????
4.They are already gone...
At least I am young and nimble.
 

pyrotek7x7

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Ooooh, an enjoyable post :)
Girls for me it is more like
1.????
2.????
3.????
4.They are already gone...
At least I am young and nimble.
Lulz, that made me chuckle.

Mostly because it's entirely true. Although for me it's
1: Become friends
2: ???
3: Oh wait a minute, you're still just friends
 

OutlawStar

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Lulz, that made me chuckle.

Mostly because it's entirely true. Although for me it's
1: Become friends
2: ???
3: Oh wait a minute, you're still just friends
And also, the only cool girls at my school already have boyfriends
or think I am weird or something.
 

MidnightAsaph

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Nice story. It's kind of embarrassing, but I don't have any more luck with the ladies than you do. Honestly, I'm a lonesome jack*** without a care in the world for other people. ^_^ My heart is black. It kind of sucks that the girl left like that though.
 

finalark

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Fun read. It's a shame that the girl left because of the whole "shuffle" thing. I've never been good with women, I've never had a girlfriend. Probably because I'm a nerd and I'm open about it (I'm even wearing a freaking DBZ shirt as I type this!). Oh well, life moves on, eh?
 

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Oh Vyse, you got me into shuffling, and Im not bad, I only wish I could teach you women to. Haha.

I could teach you the ways of flattery.
 

tibs7

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vyse is a mad kent,
yeah the amount of regrets, seriously so many but theres chances to pick up every time you go out its not that hard tbh, it just requires some effort that most of us smashers dont do
 

nevershootme

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case and point, since you're in school, try to talk to the girls after each class about the lecture, and then develop it from there into talking personal details or fun stuff. it's all about controlling the flow of the conversation (not to mention finding cues if she's single or not). and by controlling the flow, in similarity, like controlling the outcome of a match to your favor.

I'm not into dancing myself, unless the girl is really asking for it (or if it's salsa lol, i'm asian-american, yet ill surrounded by hispanic culture). nowadays on the dance club is all about bumpin and grinding the lady to hip hop and rap music (never in my interest).

also, try to join some clubs on campus, u can usually randomly strike up a little conversation from there. and don't follow steps lol, who knows if clubs aren't your thing?

I do admit i have some girl problems myself, typically in group settings is where i fall, but in 1 on 1 conversations i do better. you still have plenty of time anyways, heck im not in no rush to find a girl

heck, who knows if you meet the right chick while in America for Genesis?
 

LordoftheMorning

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I'm going to have to read this later. Melbourne Shuffle is soo cool! I need someone to teach me. There's video tutorials, I know, but yeah.

I remember the time you said it was "wavedashing irl". I had that quote as my sig for a while.
 

Vyse

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vyse is a mad kent,
yeah the amount of regrets, seriously so many but theres chances to pick up every time you go out its not that hard tbh, it just requires some effort that most of us smashers dont do
TIBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Ya ****in **** what tha **** you driving at mannnng?? Gonna come to the coast and school my Diddy too aye? aye?

Tibs can play diddy better than anyone in this thread.
Fact.

But he's too scaredpoor to prove it at Autumn LAN in a month :mad:
Steal your brother's money. I'm sure Attlia won't notice!

@nevershootme: I like the idea of competitive dating roflmao. But seriously, I hear what you're saying. I might spend a few evenings at the guild bar on campus and see what happens. I have a lot of fun going out drinking with friends, even at pubs and stuff, it's just I don't get to that often. (At least being an Aussie means the legal drinking age is 18).

@Friendzone Thing: Yeah, I've experienced this. Actually, Chaco, I remember reading your particular story when it comes to this subject and I can relate. Though, it didn't really phase either of us when I asked her out and she rejected me. We kinda didn't talk much for a while, but we both got over it and talk whenever we get the chance to.

@lordofthemorning: Yessssssss I remember that. Wavedashing IRL is amazing.

@Everyone: Thanks for reading yo >.<

@Tibs: Why are you looking in here? :p
 

tibs7

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coz i searched melbourne and this came up and your a madt kent =) haha yeah i think i could actually still go.....maybe coz attila's like if you get a job ill pay for you soooo mmm its still on the cards.......

and you should be the one coming down to melb geeezzz missed out on all the smash superstars...it like wont happen again ..=(

EDIT: no defs not the best diddy in the thread, ive still got so much to improve on, i like dont know any matchups....=(
 

tibs7

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smash uses up alot of my time, play it like once every 2 days for about 1-2hrs every time i play thats not natural talent....but anyway enough about my vysey boy we gotta get chu some women bro, come to melb and ill hook u up ;) haha
 

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Hahahaha talking about learning about women like you can actually do it.

No matter how much you know about them. It will never be enough.
 

Vyse

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Hahahaha talking about learning about women like you can actually do it.

No matter how much you know about them. It will never be enough.
Mate, I studied Feminism, Gender Theory and Queer Theory for a year.
I still have no idea.

I just need to learn enough if you know what I'm saying ;)

@Darkshadow: Breakdancing, man, I haven't got the kind of body strength for it. I'd love to learn how to C-walk, but it's so haaaaard >.<
 

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Eh, well, my advice to you varies on whether or not there is a particular young lady you are specifically interested in.

Since you're extremely experienced, I won't go into all the ATs on how to score women. Just like Brawl, the basics will do (dear god, I'm comparing women to Brawl at 4:30 in the morning, I need sleep.)

A) Flirting keeps your options open, and builds confidence. It also helps you when you really need it. Seriously, just flirt with everyone. Who cares if you're ridiculously cheesy? Girls suck that stuff up 80% of the time, and if it's a girl you're not really interested in, it doesn't matter anyway. Anytime you talk to a girl, just flirt, just for the heck of it. She doesn't even have to look good, she's just experience points. It also covers your bases. That way, the next time a girl comes up to you and says something like, "What do you do when you like someone?" You'll come up with something like "Well, that depends. If she looks like you, I'll think about her all the time, even if I didn't say anything right away." It also bolsters confidence. When you're sweet talking your friends, and they know, or think, you're just joking around, even if they just laugh with you, it feels good. Your situation doesn't sound like one where you're going to get the "EW" reaction (unless you say something gross). Flirting is easy. Just take anything you're talking about, and twist it to give a non-perverse compliment. You can't fail.

B) As you're training up in the art of smooth talk, if you happen to encounter a girl that you like, and you don't know whether or not she likes you, but she's not the most important thing in your world, just tell her how you feel. It's an age old matra that's SOOOO true. Protip: PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY ATTRACTED TO PEOPLE THAT THEY ATTRACT. Turning people on is a turn on. It's naturally built into us to try and give people a chance. For example, you didn't know that girl liked you, but you missed her when she was gone after you found out, even though you might not have liked her. This is because you're attracted to her merely due to the fact that she liked you. We liked to be liked. Use that to your advantage, and let women know how you feel. If they straight up don't like you to the point where they won't give you a chance, then . . . you didn't have a chance anyway, and now you can move on with your life. There are more fish in the sea, and you don't seem to have one of those really bad problems where you're just generally unliked.

C) You don't have to impress a woman to get her to like you. I know that sounds silly, but it's actually true. I turned 18 in March, and I'm a student in high school. Once, I saw this amazingly beautiful girl (I was 16 at the time) and just ran with this:"Hi, my name is Daniel, and I think you're beautiful. I'd regret it if I didn't attempt to at least learn your name. I'm really shy actually, and I'll probably say something dumb during the course of this conversation, but nobody is perfect except you. Can I buy you lunch?" At worst, she says no (she didn't). At best, new girlfriend (not right away). She was already in a problematic relationship, but her and her boyfriend broke up a couple weeks later and we went out for a while. We're still friends. The point? Just roll the dice. You don't need to rescue a damsel to get her to fall for you.

D) Don't try and date friends. DUDE this is one of the worst problems ever. The friends zone is a BAD PLACE TO BE. A lot of guys with your problem have this foolish misconception that people are friends first, decide they are romantically interested, and then start dating/enter a relationship. NOOOOOOO!!!! While it's true that there are some relationships that start this way, it RUINS friendships frequently, and this is not the norm. Usually, it's 'safer' and more comfortable for both parties to enter romantic relationships with people they don't know. Don't you notice all your attractions are for people you see and think, "Dam!n She looks GOOD." You can start a relationship with someone you see often, but don't know very well, like a co-worker. Once you fall into the friends zone, you're probably stuck there, so enjoy your new friend, and get your net back out, cause we're going fishing again. I'm not encouraging you to engage people on the streets, that's just being a creep. Ideally, you're looking for someone who is in a comfortable location (any form of recreational area, a place you have to visit frequently, some place you have to wait around, hell, anywhere indoors and public is probably OK). Once you meet a new woman, refer to the step where you flirt. I highly doubt you're really trying to collect pocket friendships with various women you meet in random places, so let's keep the conversation going in a positive direction by making it obvious that you are single by the suggestive tone of voice (though try and stay away from suggestive words and actions) and obvious compliments.

If there's any really important tip you need for flirting, it's that you want to make the girl feel good about herself/make it sound you're interested in her, not simply that you just want to get in her pants. Easy win.

I mean, I can talk about women, and relationships and all that good stuff forever, but I think that's enough to go over for now. This, and other stuff, but a lot of this, has worked well for me in the past. I've never told a girl that I liked her, and had it turn out disastrous. Chances are, if you like her, she's polite. If she's polite, then even if she isn't interested in you, or a relationship, or has a boyfriend, then she's not going to crush you with rudeness, and you'll recover. A lot of people say "take a chance" but it's not even taking a risk. You CAN'T lose. You can only win later instead of now. You never lose anything from trying.

So, in summation:
A) Start flirting a lot to practice, build your confidence, and open your options
B) If you DO like a girl, tell her how you feel.
C) Women are impressed by me with the confidence to approach them. You don't have to focus on impressing her any further. That will happen naturally. Just be yourself, and remember A and B.
D) Don't get stuck in the friends zone.
 

tibs7

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I'd love to learn how to C-walk, but it's so haaaaard >.<

Vyse believe it or not i can C-walk, ill teach you some day

i must say Pierce7d, they are some wise words good stuff.
 

Vyse

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lol, for sure tibs.

Pierce, you should write a book about it or something.
Do you keep that saved somewhere for easy posting? Or did you type it all out on the spot? lol.

I didn't mean to post this looking for advice, these are just the kinds of memories I just like to hold onto and record. But thanks Pierce, I'll keep it in mind. I really appreciate it ^_^
 

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lol, I just wrote it on the spot. It was like 4 in the morning or something I was like, "Screw it" and just dove it. It's what I do.

I've had my fair share of romantic issues, so it's nice when people don't have to deal with the same BS I did, lol.
 
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