dancing blade breaking shields

[vegeta9000]

ok ive done further testing. i only testing this on olimar before i made this thread

ive tested it on kirby, snake, DK, MK, wario, kind dedede, and olimar

OLIMAR IS THE ONLY CHARACTER THIS WORKS AGAINST

have someone else play olimar and then tell him to press his shield when you say "go"

stand next to olimar, say "go", your friend presses and holds his shield, then you 4 dancing blade olimar. your fourth dancing blade will damage olimar and make him fly and it does full damage. it goes through the shield

THIS DOESNT WORK ON ANY OTHER CHARACTER. ONLY OLIMAR.

in order for a 4th Ndb to bypass olimars shield, your previous 3 strikes must have made contact. if your first strke missed, a 4th Ndb strike wont bypass his shield

if your 4th db attack is a UPdb, then it will bypass olimars shield no matter what

this is good news since olimar is a hard match for marth

DB doesnt shield bypass ANY OTHER CHARACTER accept for olimar. and by shield bypass, i mean hes holding his shield and the attack still sends him flying and does damage






if olimar is shielded, and if the last hit of your dancing blades attack is nB>, olimars shield will not stop your attack and olimar will take damage and fly, as long as the previous 3 attacks of dancing blades struck his shield. if your first hit of dancing blades missed his shield, his shield will stop the final nB> db attack
this kills an olimar at like 130%, instantkill if hes at 130% even if he shields lol

if olimar is shielded, and if the last hit of your dancing blades attack is upB^, olimars shield will not stop your attack and olimar will take damage and fly up, regardless of whether or not 3 attacks of dancing blades struck his shield. even if the only part of dancing blades that strikes olimars shield is the last of your 4 strikes, it will go through his shield as long as its a upB^ dancing blades attack. this kills olimar at 105% everytime on final destination

so, lol, if your fighting olimar and hes at 96%, all you gotta do is land the last attack of your dancing blades on his shield and it will go through his shield and kill him 100% of the time

 

[Steel]

..shield poke?

 

[Pierce7d]

Yes, if your opponent's shield is not full, or they are in the habit of shielding your whole Dancing Blade, then you can shield poke with it. It doesn't generally break shields though (in fact I've never broken a shield with Dancing Blade, only reduced it dramatically) but that's why we have the nifty shield breaker.

 

[vegeta9000]

..shield poke?

thats works too, but sometimes when fighting olimar or kirby i will shorthop attack him with a fair and he shields my fair then when i hit the ground i have almost no landing lag (because fairs have almost no landing lag) and i shield then ya know kirby attacks me or tries to run away or tries to grab me but i downdodge the grab n stuff and at this point, shield poke would be too slow to strike him but dancing blades is a extremely quick initiated attack to my left or my right and i could even do a short dash first before starting up my dancing blades. so maybe kirby goes left or right then i do a quick short dash and dancing blades attack and my first dancing blades strike misses kirby (cause i was a bit too far away when i used it) and the next two DB attacks quickly hit kirby but kirby shields it, but the last upB^ DB attack goes through his shield and kills kirby

its real cool imo this attack is quick and goes right through the shield

 

[vegeta9000]

Yes, if your opponent's shield is not full, or they are in the habit of shielding your whole Dancing Blade, then you can shield poke with it. It doesn't generally break shields though (in fact I've never broken a shield with Dancing Blade, only reduced it dramatically) but that's why we have the nifty shield breaker.

no no no

try it yourself

have your friend HOLD the shield button, and then you immidiately start DB attacks

your final DB attack will go through his shield (even though he has a lot of shield to spare) and damage him and make him fly

this is an instant kill on olimar or kirby at like 100% damage on final destination, and such killing power on an attack as FAST as DB, that GOES THROUGH SHIELDS is pretty awesome.

even if kirby or olimar shields your DB, the final attack will go through the shield and kill him

 

[Steel]

no no no

try it yourself

have your friend HOLD the shield button, and then you immidiately start DB attacks

your final DB attack will go through his shield (even though he has a lot of shield to spare) and damage him and make him fly

this kills olimar or kirby at like 100% on final destination, and such killing power on an attack as FAST as DB, that GOES THROUGH SHIELDS is pretty awesome

yeah, down dancing blade version shield pokes if the shield isnt at full percentage. that's what he was trying to explain.

 

[vegeta9000]

yeah, down dancing blade version shield pokes if the shield isnt at full percentage. that's what he was trying to explain.

no no

down dancing blade DOES NOT GO THROUGH THE SHIELD (ive tested it). the shield will absorb the full DOWN dancing blade attack and your DOWN dancing blade attack will do zero damage to a shielded olimar

however, N dancing blade and UP dancing blade GOES THROUGH THE SHIELD (even if the shield is FULL) on the final strike and damages/flys opponent

this DOES work on olimar. test it yourself




when he said shield poke, i thought he meant shield breaker so i was replying as if he said shield breaker

 

[vegeta9000]

it doesnt break the shield, it goes through the shield and damages/flys/kills your opponent WITHOUT breaking the shield

 

[VietGeek]

...what? I'm really confused. >_> Oh, and you can edit your last post instead of double posting.

Okay, so the title says Dancing Blade can break shields, but then you refute your own point and say that Dancing Blade goes through the shield (which is what a shield poke is) and damages the foe?

Down Dancing Blade shield pokes too, since your foe can move the shield to cover them upward or down (tilt up or down while shielding) or toward them or away (left and right tilt). If they tilt it toward you, Down DB will use reduce the shield most of the time. Heck, if you leave it neutral, it does what you said too.

Smaller shields are easier to poke through with Neutral or Up, and Down works better on larger foes and their larger shields. At least, that seems to be often the case for me.

 

[Pierce7d]

So Neutral Dancing Blade and Up Dancing Blade > Down Dancing Blade for shield poking smaller characters? News to me.

 

[vegeta9000]

...what? I'm really confused. >_> Oh, and you can edit your last post instead of double posting.

Okay, so the title says Dancing Blade can break shields, but then you refute your own point and say that Dancing Blade goes through the shield (which is what a shield poke is) and damages the foe?

Down Dancing Blade shield pokes too, since your foe can move the shield to cover them upward or down (tilt up or down while shielding) or toward them or away (left and right tilt). If they tilt it toward you, Down DB will use reduce the shield most of the time. Heck, if you leave it neutral, it does what you said too.

Smaller shields are easier to poke through with Neutral or Up, and Down works better on larger foes and their larger shields. At least, that seems to be often the case for me.

okay i guess i am confused

what is "shield poke?"

im talking about attacking your enemies shield, and your attack damages your enemy AND makes your enemy fly (even through he is shielded)

is that a "shield poke" ?

if thats what a shield poke is, then thats what i mean

i used the term "break the shield" accidently. i meant to write "bypass the shield" because thats what DB does to kirby or olimar

if kirby or olimar shields, your last attack of dancing blades will BYPASS their shield, 100% of the time (in my testing) and damage/fly them.

So Neutral Dancing Blade and Up Dancing Blade > Down Dancing Blade for shield poking smaller characters? News to me.

hold on are you saying down dancing blade will shield bypass large characters? time to test this for me. i only tested up/n DB on large characters and it didnt bypass. maybe down will

 

[VietGeek]

So Neutral Dancing Blade and Up Dancing Blade > Down Dancing Blade for shield poking smaller characters? News to me.

It depends whether or not their shield is already diminished. Just as the shield is variable, how you go through it is variable as well. I only threw that out because that's my experience with Dancing Blade (I spam the hell out of it so I guess I know it pretty well, right)?

To Vegeta: Bypassing a shield is the same as a shield poke. As in "poking through a shield." So yes, your last post correctly uses the term.

 

[Pierce7d]

Yeah, shield poking is hitting your opponent when they have their shield up, but it's diminished.

Down Dancing Blade will shield poke almost all characters if their shield is even slightly reduced. After a few Fairs, it's an amazing option.

 

[vegeta9000]

ok ive done further testing. i only testing this on olimar before i made this thread

ive tested it on kirby, snake, DK, MK, wario, kind dedede, and olimar

OLIMAR IS THE ONLY CHARACTER THIS WORKS AGAINST

have someone else play olimar and then tell him to press his shield when you say "go"

stand next to olimar, say "go", your friend presses and holds his shield, then you 4 dancing blade olimar. your fourth dancing blade will damage olimar and make him fly and it does full damage. it goes through the shield

THIS DOESNT WORK ON ANY OTHER CHARACTER. ONLY OLIMAR.

in order for a 4th Ndb to bypass olimars shield, your previous 3 strikes must have made contact. if your first strke missed, a 4th Ndb strike wont bypass his shield

if your 4th db attack is a UPdb, then it will bypass olimars shield no matter what

this is good news since olimar is a hard match for marth

DB doesnt shield bypass ANY OTHER CHARACTER accept for olimar. and by shield bypass, i mean hes holding his shield and the attack still sends him flying and does damage

 

[Pierce7d]

What you call "shield bypassing" a very great many of us refer to as "shield poking." You don't have to, but I suggest you pick up the term so people know what you're talking about. Furthermore, if the Olimar perfect shields your first slice, this won't work.

 

[vegeta9000]

What you call "shield bypassing" a very great many of us refer to as "shield poking." You don't have to, but I suggest you pick up the term so people know what you're talking about. Furthermore, if the Olimar perfect shields your first slice, this won't work.

well this is just cool to me cause this is the only attack ive found that pokes olimars shield

are you sure shield poking makes the enemy fly, or does it just do damage but they still are holding their shield?

 

[Pierce7d]

Shield poking is hitting part of the enemy while their shield is reduced, so the attack makes contact with the enemies body instead of the remainder of their shield. It can be done with many attacks, so long as the shield is reduced significantly enough. For instance, if your opponent is dumb enough to just stand there while you spam Dtilt at them, this will eventually shield poke. They will always receive damage and knockback, just like a regular hit.

 

[vegeta9000]

Even if the 1st 2nd and 3rd didnt make contact, your Up (Blue Dancing Blade) Will shield poke your opponent (olimar) and kill at 130%.

But the ndb (Red Dancing Blade) needs all four strikes to contact

 

[Dark Sonic]

Shields cover certain areas of the body. If an attack connects with any part of the body that the shield is not covering (easier to do if the shield has been diminished), then the attack will hit the characters just as it would've if they weren't shielding.

And the correct term is shieldstab. We often say shield"poke" because Marth's d-tilt was so notorious for doing this (since it hits so low and peoples' feet are often exposed with even a slightly diminished shield).

 

[Pierce7d]

And the correct term is shieldstab. We often say shield"poke" because Marth's d-tilt was so notorious for doing this (since it hits so low and peoples' feet are often exposed with even a slightly diminished shield).

Oh, that's good to know, thanks. I've actually never heard that term before.

 

[MarKO X]

Shield Poke > Camping.

Marth for Godtier, thank you very much.