I have a question I just got done watching pc fight kdj and I noticed on fd when chris does his shine wd combo the fox doesnt fly anywhere. I tried to do this to my friend but it seems when i shine with falco the fox flies alot higher then in the video. Does anyone know if this is a damage ratio change or why the fox in the vid doesnt fly as high?
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Damage Ratio
- Thread starter SvdChrono
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Endless Nightmares
Smash Master
The combo in the video was probably done at a low percentage, and you might be trying it at a higher percentage than in the video. That's all I can think of.
Soma
Smash Journeyman
Well considering I didn't just watch the video or have something to compare it to right now. But my guess would be good old fashion DI.
Another thing I would like to add why would the fox DI the falcos shine to fall lower to be comboed doesnt make sense?
Soma
Smash Journeyman
People do make mistakes... even KDJ...
I realize this, but could the dmg ration indeed be set to lower then 1.0? because I was watching the video and in the video the shine does 6 dmg and on 1.0 ratio the shine does 8 and throws the opponent alot higher, while at .8 its 6 dmg with lower throwing. I was also wondering could it be that the dmg ratio is reduced?
Soma
Smash Journeyman
You know most if not all moves suffer a reduction of damage the more you use it in a battle. I'm not sure about knockback, but I wouldn't doubt it, if it is effected too. And I'm pretty sure that no tournament ever played with reduced damage ratio.
Zombie Lucille Ball
Smash Master
It's very safe to say that if it was a match between PC and KDJ, most likely tournament, then the damage ratio was normal.
Red Exodus
Smash Master
Damage ratio refers to damage : knockback . The higher the ratio the more the knockback at the same damage. When you play with lower DR your opponent doesn't fly as far, but at higher DR your opponent flies far or is KO'd very easy by most upBs and throws like Mario's bthrow.
With that said I think it was just DI, especially since no one really messes with DR.
With that said I think it was just DI, especially since no one really messes with DR.
Banks
Smash Hero
phanna that could be right, but im pretty sure he just did it at a low enough percentage to shine him again. its done all the time, you just cant be high percents
Fiiii
Smash Apprentice
I'd have to agree with Phanna, probably the most logical explanation. If not, it may be just a fluke.
Banks
Smash Hero
low percents...
these quotes are probably with the most truth to it
i noticed that when i face fox with falco, sometimes he will get hit by the shine then just fall down instead of being sent up. this happens even more often even more often if there is a slight diagonal slant as in yoshi story or corneria. the most logical explanation would be a combination of crouch canceling, phantom hit and di(with smash), but not all of those are needed, because i sometimes pull these off against a noob fox(my sis)
percentage does not matter much i think- happened to fox at 0-50%
Banks
Smash Hero
cc, low percents. nothing out of the ordinary, people do it all the time