Dair Cancel

[ttocs]

I've seemed to cancel my Dair a few times before, but I don't know how.

I don't know if it's something you can voluntarily control, but I've never heard or read anything about Dair canceling and I was wondering if there really is a way to do it.

 

[Wildfire393]

The only way I know of to do this is to use the Dair while suffering upwards knockback. The dair will stall in the air rather than shooting downwards, but it will still have a long duration.

 

[East]

I think I know what ttocs is talking about. This has happened to me a few times when I first started playing the game. I did it with sonic first, I dair'd and as soon as I hit the ground, I was able to roll backwards. In fact it's happened to me multiple times with sonic and toon link. The other day I was just messing around with random with some friends and I swore to god I L-cancelled Link's Dair.

Every time I've tried to reproduce the effect, I've never been able to. I'm thinking it might have something to do with maybe how far your character is from the ground when they do the dair. Hell, for all we know, we did it so far up that by the time we reached the ground, the attack animation had already ended, but who knows. Other than that, it still remains a mystery.

 

[Mith_]

I'm thinking it might have something to do with maybe how far your character is from the ground when they do the dair. Hell, for all we know, we did it so far up that by the time we reached the ground, the attack animation had already ended, but who knows.

I think that's it.

I've had the same thing happen to me with Link, Tink, Sheik and DK. If the animation ends right before you with the ground you shouldn't get any lag on the end.

 

[Ryoko]

I think that's it.

I've had the same thing happen to me with Link, Tink, Sheik and DK. If the animation ends right before you with the ground you shouldn't get any lag on the end.

Toon Link's Dair attack animation doesn't end until he hits the ground.

 

[Semmick]

Toon Link's Dair attack animation doesn't end until he hits the ground.

Yes it does, when you stall with it, he doesnt keep falling

 

[Conclusively]

I think I know what ttocs is talking about. This has happened to me a few times when I first started playing the game. I did it with sonic first, I dair'd and as soon as I hit the ground, I was able to roll backwards. In fact it's happened to me multiple times with sonic and toon link. The other day I was just messing around with random with some friends and I swore to god I L-cancelled Link's Dair.

Every time I've tried to reproduce the effect, I've never been able to. I'm thinking it might have something to do with maybe how far your character is from the ground when they do the dair. Hell, for all we know, we did it so far up that by the time we reached the ground, the attack animation had already ended, but who knows. Other than that, it still remains a mystery.

From high enough, you can cancel both Sonic's down air and link's down air. For sonic, try spring jumping, then automatically dair. You should suffer little to no landing lag. Link.. is harder, you can only cancel it if you're lucky.

 

[demodemo]

so does that mean that dair has autocancel frames? IAJELGKDAGJK

i just use dair to edghog from imopssible heights

everytime i time it to the edge perfectly me and my friends are always like WHARBAGARAGABA

 

[The Great Leon]

every move has auto cancel frames

auto cancel frames dont exist

its just a move happening to finish completely before you hit the ground

 

[choknater]

my mom has autocancel frames

 

[demodemo]

every move has auto cancel frames

auto cancel frames dont exist

its just a move happening to finish completely before you hit the ground

NAY I SAY NAY

read up the thread on autocancelling. you wouldn't be cancelling anything if the move just finishes.

And i don't even know if dair has autocancelling frames. it is very likely it doesn't and if it does it would have to be at a much lower height for usefulness

when i said autocancel i sort of meant a stupid, humorous way since even if it had autocancel frames it would not be that ALGKJSLKAH

 

[The Great Leon]

if you dair it finishes and u can jump afterwards, assuming you are high enough

idk about sonic/zamus

 

[demodemo]

yeap

but that doesnt have anything to do with my arguments hahaha

 

[Fox Is Openly Deceptive]

I know for a fact that T link's dair attack will stop after a certain distance whether or not he hits anyone or gets hit on the way down. If you want to test this just make a custom stage to suit your experiment. As for everyone else I can't say for sure.

 

[Tristan_win]

my mom has autocancel frames

and to think I almost didn't respond to this thread

~coughs~

"She didn't last night"

 

[The Great Leon]

brawl tech

 

[Villi]

I used to think descending with a dair was just kinda flashy with no real usefulness to it, but it actually causes Sheik to fall faster than her fast fall even accounting for the stall if you start it from high enough in the air... which is marginally useful.

 

[Jellyfishn]

You can cancel almost any attack. Just get hit.... xD

 

[Kricu]

If I am not mistaken, Sheik's dair ends significantly sooner than Sonic, Zamus or TLink's. It was mentioned that TLink's dair will stop after a set distance/time. I think sonic works the same way because I have come out of a dair while playing as him though it was an extremely far fall. I know it is possible to spring jump as sonic out of his dair though. As for Zamus I really don't know because I don't play her.

 

[ttocs]

Haha well this was interesting to come back to and read.

I meant actually canceling the entire dair before it starts. I'm 99% sure I've done this a few times before, but I can't really remember any details.