D - Throw Tech Chases?

[Y2Kay]

I know that Zard's down throw is a tech chase but all his moves are slow, I really don't know how to follow it up. I tried side b, down smash, and d tilt, but none of those work very well.

 

[Life]

Framewise, you have only seven frames of advantage against neutral tech, meaning jab or grab are your go-to options against that. Otherwise, you'll have to read or react to the rolls.

 

[metroid1117]

Framewise, you have only seven frames of advantage against neutral tech, meaning jab or grab are your go-to options against that. Otherwise, you'll have to read or react to the rolls.

IIRC, Charizard's DThrow is weight-dependent, so the frame advantage after DThrow depends on the weight of the character being thrown; in other words, there's more "lag" after using DThrow on heavier characters and less "lag" after using DThrow on lighter characters.

EDIT: Scratch that, #exposed #fraud

 

[Y2Kay]

IIRC, Charizard's DThrow is weight-dependent, so the frame advantage after DThrow depends on the weight of the character being thrown; in other words, there's more "lag" after using DThrow on heavier characters and less "lag" after using DThrow on lighter characters.

whoah! now that's really cool! I didn't know that!

 

[Life]

I am 99% sure that's not true, because I've said that many times and have never been contradicted before; but I'll double check.

EDIT: It's seven frames on both Bowser and Jigglypuff. Tested on the most recent version of PM with no character or stage edits, only custom music. Debug Mode da bess.

 

[jtm94]

Wow get souped metroid.
When is Zard dthrow going to not suck again?

 

[metroid1117]

I am 99% sure that's not true, because I've said that many times and have never been contradicted before; but I'll double check.

EDIT: It's seven frames on both Bowser and Jigglypuff. Tested on the most recent version of PM with no character or stage edits, only custom music. Debug Mode da bess.

Wow my bad, I've been wrong all this time then.

 

[Y2Kay]

aww, that stinks then.

 

[Life]

Well, if it were weight dependent with roughly the same average lag, that would mean Bowser could possibly guaranteed upB Charizard out of neutral tech against dthrow. So maybe it's not such a bad thing

 

[jtm94]

But you could have good tech chasing on Jigglypuff!

 

[Life]

But you could have good tech chasing on Jigglypuff!

Until Jigglypuff gets buffed to 150 weight and has guaranteed Rest on us instead. :D

 

[DblCrest]

I've only played one Charizard that used that on me 3-4 times. Can you even tech after it or do you need to guess what to when you're getting up?

 

[metroid1117]

I've only played one Charizard that used that on me 3-4 times. Can you even tech after it or do you need to guess what to when you're getting up?

You have to treat it like Fox/Falco/G&W's DThrow and input the tech before the throw actually finishes. It's not too bad, it just take some getting used to.