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Critique My Falcon Please?

battousai555

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Concerning the match vs. marth:

You missed a lot of SHFFLs and got punished for it. SHFFL'd aerial ~> gentlemannings will **** him if he tries to shield grab, and you can roll away if he shields the gentleman. Nair to grab if he's at lower percents, and nair to nair/u-air (hopefully ending in a knee) at higher percents.

Marth was just waiting for you to poorly approach and out-prioritize you. Dash dance, empty shorthop to grab, and wavedash back (not too much), to bait him. Also, dair a bit more (but don't spam it). Depending on the percent, it can lead to his timely death.

In short, work on tech-skill, know what to do at what percent, and be less predictable. Keep up the good work.

P.S. If you're going to go to the trouble of L-cancelling a killing knee, why not throw in an immediate taunt to lower his confidence? ^^
 

SpaceFalcon

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE-ZOT4K3c8

You messed up the link on the first one.

I watched all of them, and by the second match I was following your moves one after the other.. Short hop aerials to approach a lot and roll back try again, if it doesn't work raptor boost, or you just stand there and let your shield wear down or switch up the standing still with smash attacks..?

don't be afraid of moving around, I guess what I'm trying to say is you need to have more fluid movements you seem to screw up dash dancing or timing a lot. But your varying your approaches which is a good start.

Anyway I once read in a guide "pros master movements before mindgames"

Also your recovery is always the same, I'm surprised the fox or marth didn't just shine/spike you every time. But I like how you try for surprise knees thats always a blast. :]
 

JonaDiaper

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i dont have any specific advice but i noticed a few things.

you hesitate alot, you do way to many random side b's and the biggest thing,
you have tech skill down, but i dont think you have falcon down, i can tell you dont have that feel for him. like you would probably do better being someone else. its like you gotta be the falcon, your more like an idunno marth player or something. you just dont have that smoothness. watch ss and scar play, everything they do is like smooth and precise. you gotta play falcon like falcon, not like fox, or marth and anyone else.
 

SpaceFalcon

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If you can be fast with Fox, then playing falcon with near-perfect precision is sexy as hell =]
 

Parker1006

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i dont have any specific advice but i noticed a few things.

you hesitate alot, you do way to many random side b's and the biggest thing,
you have tech skill down, but i dont think you have falcon down, i can tell you dont have that feel for him. like you would probably do better being someone else. its like you gotta be the falcon, your more like an idunno marth player or something. you just dont have that smoothness. watch ss and scar play, everything they do is like smooth and precise. you gotta play falcon like falcon, not like fox, or marth and anyone else.
About the feel thing, you're right. I need more practice. I've "mained" Falcon for about 2 years, but those matches were taken from friendlies at only my fourth tournament, lol. I think I use techskill in the wrong places, instead of just playing smart (if that makes any sense). Thanks for all of the advice you guys.
 

Parker1006

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Just watched the Luigi match. It seems like both of you are decent players and have good technical skill, but know little about the Luigi/Falcon matchup. I know a good amount of people who hate this level as Falcon. For great advice on the matchup, check the Falcon/Luigi boards. Definitely keep the pressure on Luigi and keep him in the air as often as possible while watching out for the obscene priority of his aerials. Watch out for the nair when combo'ing and take note of whether or not he has his tornado charged (ready for upward trajectory), as this plays just as crucial a role in how you should edgeguard him as whether or not he has his jump.
Thank you for all of the advice man. Yes, FoD isn't a great stage for Falcon, but I've learned how to work with it. I usually ban Green Greens anyways, lol. Again thanks for the matchup help. Hope to play you at a big tourney someday.
 

Parker1006

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In the 4th match, you missed a lot of knees. Your only knee combo was one in which your opponent didn't DI. Whenever he did DI, you missed. Remember: If you aren't landing knees, you probably aren't winning.
Amen wise one. Thanks for the advice man. Anything more specific that you saw I need to work on in my game?
 

The Phenom

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You can learn how to moonwalk right; I thinking your just starting to learn that AT from what I saw. Incorporate moonwalking and know/feel how the mentality is influenced to your Capt. Falcon play. I don't main Falcon but I got very long moonwalking skills; it feels so **** good!!! Yeaahhh....Show me your moves!!!(moonwalking moves) OOPS! to sexual. YES!!!

PS:good idea on playing music! thats why I watched all vids. A relatively new person should always play there type music so we can feel them.

PS:ooh and almost forgot! SpaceFalcon thanks for fixing the first link!
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CLASS OF 2009! Florida huh? Thats a good Melee state; make sure you get into the Melee tourny/smashfest scene! It's a blast!
 

Parker1006

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All of those matches are on my friend's youtube account. The song for the first match was requested by me, because it's the only match I win, lol.
 

The Phenom

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^ Thats how it is here on song requests to! lol!

One of the songs was used for a Game&Watch Combo by Zorakbane. So some nostalgia came from it. thanks =)

I finally got a recorder so I'm going to start uploading Melee videos of many characters. esp. low-tier; bring on the challenge Marth/Fox/Falco/Shiek!

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CLASS OF 2009!
 

Parker1006

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Any more advice for my Falcon? Thanks again to everyone who's helped me out by viewing my matches. You guys/gals are all wonderful people for that.
 

Milos

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Against fox, you have to tech chase more, with d throw. tech chase grabs or stomps or raptor boosts, they tend to work the best and open up the most options for a followup. from like, 80-110% u throw f smash is godly as long as they don't full DI away, above 110 u throw knee is the ****. more nair -> grab. on marth at low %s use more u throw nair, same with luigi. on marth and luigi, raptor boost -> fullhop double uair is awesome. you can regrab after as well.

you have good tech skill, and I disagree with jona, you have a good feel for falcon, you just need to learn more character and percent specific combos.

PS you should get at G-reg's advice thread. it has fairly accurate percents for d-throw/u-throw -> knee on all characters. and those are the two most important combos for a falcon, as they'll get you more kills than any other combo.
 
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