Alright, as some of you may have seen, I've recently become obsessed with metabattling on NetBattle. I love battling, though there aren't many people on that actually are up for battling, while there's usually around 80 or so, a lot of them are afk. With my current team set-up I almost never lose; the only time I ever do is when I get frozen on an unlucky ice beam or I'm on the bad end of a crit, though you can't really take those things into consideration when building a team; it's just the luck of the draw, chi.
However, for as many teams as I beat, there's always one or two teams that completely own my team; my friend took a while to set up his army (that's what he calls his 6 poke team, his army, which I kind of like
) and was able to stop my team cold, never even having to send out his Starmie. That means I was taken down by only 5 pokes, and I consider myself a very successful predictor.
So anyways, I've been thinking (and no, it doesn't hurt ^_<); could there be an ultimate team? Now I know that every pokemon has their weakness (in short, a pokemon that "stops them cold"), but that's true for a lot of things like chess and checkers as well; no strategy is without it's failures, but a what a strategy CAN do is minimize their chance of failure. By using some math (statistics, to be exact), along with the bright minds here at SWF, I bet we can develop the statistically best team.
Now, it's important to realize that, while half of battling is what pokemon you have, the other, and possibly more import aspect to battling, is prediction. However, by gathering some data, such as the most commonly used pokemon, their moves, stats, weakness, etc., I bet we can find some overlap and create a team that minimizes failure.
Let me reiterate, we're trying to build a team that can minimize failure, since I believe that pokemon's design disables any undefeatable team. Along with building the team we can gather data based on how its used as to what the majority of people do when given a certain situation. For example, we play a bunch of matches and jot down on Notepad how often someone expects a switch into a Sponge like Blissy or Snorlax and Focus Punches them. I'm willing to do it by myself if no one is willing to do it, but what I really need help with is the development of the team.
I've seen some really bright minds here who really know their pokemon, like Shadow Nataku, Marc, and drcossack, to name a few. I'll ask on Serebii for their input as well, so perhaps we can collaborate and come up with a final team.
Now, the only rule I'd put on it is the ban on ubers, legendaries, and hax items (Scope Lends, BrightPowder, Kings Rock, etc.). Now I realize that a lot of metabattlers have legendaries such as Zapdos and Suicine, but I've always looked down upon them; they're for people who can't think strategically, IMHO. There's always an alternate to them, such as Vaporeon instead of Suicine. We can make a team that allows for legendaries as well, but I'd much rather prefer to simply use NU, UU, and OU. We could also attempt a pure NU, UU, or OU team, but the problem with that is that there is no clear line distinguishing NU from UU or UU from OU, but there is a clear line distinguishing legendaries and ubers.
Well, is anyone up for brainstorming? I realize that, at the core, what pokemon team and strategy really depends on the person, as it should be, but if you toss favor and preference aside, what do you get? That's the answer I want to get to the bottom to, and I'd like some help from more knowledgable people, chi
However, for as many teams as I beat, there's always one or two teams that completely own my team; my friend took a while to set up his army (that's what he calls his 6 poke team, his army, which I kind of like
) and was able to stop my team cold, never even having to send out his Starmie. That means I was taken down by only 5 pokes, and I consider myself a very successful predictor.So anyways, I've been thinking (and no, it doesn't hurt ^_<); could there be an ultimate team? Now I know that every pokemon has their weakness (in short, a pokemon that "stops them cold"), but that's true for a lot of things like chess and checkers as well; no strategy is without it's failures, but a what a strategy CAN do is minimize their chance of failure. By using some math (statistics, to be exact), along with the bright minds here at SWF, I bet we can develop the statistically best team.
Now, it's important to realize that, while half of battling is what pokemon you have, the other, and possibly more import aspect to battling, is prediction. However, by gathering some data, such as the most commonly used pokemon, their moves, stats, weakness, etc., I bet we can find some overlap and create a team that minimizes failure.
Let me reiterate, we're trying to build a team that can minimize failure, since I believe that pokemon's design disables any undefeatable team. Along with building the team we can gather data based on how its used as to what the majority of people do when given a certain situation. For example, we play a bunch of matches and jot down on Notepad how often someone expects a switch into a Sponge like Blissy or Snorlax and Focus Punches them. I'm willing to do it by myself if no one is willing to do it, but what I really need help with is the development of the team.
I've seen some really bright minds here who really know their pokemon, like Shadow Nataku, Marc, and drcossack, to name a few. I'll ask on Serebii for their input as well, so perhaps we can collaborate and come up with a final team.
Now, the only rule I'd put on it is the ban on ubers, legendaries, and hax items (Scope Lends, BrightPowder, Kings Rock, etc.). Now I realize that a lot of metabattlers have legendaries such as Zapdos and Suicine, but I've always looked down upon them; they're for people who can't think strategically, IMHO. There's always an alternate to them, such as Vaporeon instead of Suicine. We can make a team that allows for legendaries as well, but I'd much rather prefer to simply use NU, UU, and OU. We could also attempt a pure NU, UU, or OU team, but the problem with that is that there is no clear line distinguishing NU from UU or UU from OU, but there is a clear line distinguishing legendaries and ubers.
Well, is anyone up for brainstorming? I realize that, at the core, what pokemon team and strategy really depends on the person, as it should be, but if you toss favor and preference aside, what do you get? That's the answer I want to get to the bottom to, and I'd like some help from more knowledgable people, chi
