Gmoney
Smash Ace
It sounds like all he's doing is pivoting it. link?
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SabinX
Smash Journeyman
i dont tornado spam, maybe thats why i dont have issues with lucario?.. im aware lucario's air game is = if not better in most moves especially d.air. friend of mine played lucario a bunch in early days when game came out and did alright.. but what wall of pain are you talking about?.. 1 d.air from mk and lucario cant make it back at like 60%.
it's relatively easy :/
it's relatively easy :/
AfroQT
Smash Master
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXttNYHCPiY
Thats R5 and 6 its definitely in some of the other rounds i'll go find the exact time later.
Thats R5 and 6 its definitely in some of the other rounds i'll go find the exact time later.
GDX
Smash Hero
i cant see it at work, but it sounds like maybe he is B-sticking? or at least doing the effect of B-sticking without actually changing his c-stick to specials
LozanoGarbanzo
Smash Ace
Yeah, he is doing the b stick effect thing where it changes when you use a b special. He picks up a grenade, jumps then in the air he takes another one out so that pivots him away from where he dropped the nade.
LozanoGarbanzo
Smash Ace
does anyone know how to pivot with b without the b-stick? I would really like to know.
AfroQT
Smash Master
yeahb ut he does it with a grenade which is neutral b soooo im confused lol.
dguy6789
Smash Lord
Lucario is really floaty. The vast majority of the time he doesn't have trouble coming back from being knocked away. Every MK I play that has tried to hit me while I am recovering, I just slap them away with an aerial or air dodge in an intelligent manner depending on the scenario and finish getting back on the stage. I have yet to have major problems recovering against any character to date.
AfroQT
Smash Master
Snake Is Floaty
SabinX
Smash Journeyman
everyone in this thread should go to willvolution!
Daysoo
Smash Ace
Same principle as a turn around charge shot from melee. (Or barlw.)
Just smack the analog to the side you want to face and then push B. o_o
Snake just drops a picked up nade when you push B, pivot or not, so...
Is that what you wanted to know? Or did I miss something?
dguy6789
Smash Lord
I would love to go to more tourneys more often but my crew drivers aren't always able to and my location makes it a little troublesome for other cfl players to help a bro out since I'm about an hour from Orlando.
AfroQT
Smash Master
Yeah but when i do that, it changes snake direction but doesnt completely reverse his DI in the other direction.
All i can say is he is falling tot he right, does something that involves pulling out a grenade and switching direction that immediately switches his falling DI to the left. And with snake changing your direction in the Air takes awhile while your falling. Imma go find it in a video now.
LozanoGarbanzo
Smash Ace
So I just messed around with that pivot gernade thing, pretty cool, I'll will def. use it now, thanks for showing it to me afro.
AfroQT
Smash Master
Found it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQC42rQSTFA
Notice at 1:00 intot he video, Forward (green snake) is falling, pulls a grenade and someone IMMEDIATELY changes hisfalling direction to the opposite direction.
wtf
When i try to do it, i grenade in the other direction but i dont change my falling direction at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQC42rQSTFA
Notice at 1:00 intot he video, Forward (green snake) is falling, pulls a grenade and someone IMMEDIATELY changes hisfalling direction to the opposite direction.
wtf
When i try to do it, i grenade in the other direction but i dont change my falling direction at all.
Daysoo
Smash Ace
The answer:
Out of his up+b, he does an aerial, and then pulls a pivot nade.
Doing the aerial first allows the pivot nade to affect your DI more.
So when you pivot nade after an aerial, your DI follows the direction you pivot.
Out of his up+b, he does an aerial, and then pulls a pivot nade.
Doing the aerial first allows the pivot nade to affect your DI more.
So when you pivot nade after an aerial, your DI follows the direction you pivot.
Gmoney
Smash Ace
Hey, I finally saw this in game 6 and just tried it out. It's pretty cool. You just hit the backward direction to pivot, go back to neutral, hit b and then push back into the backward direction so that you move into that opposite direction. If you don't push back into the opposite direction you'll only do that pivot and either fall straight or maintain some of your forward momentum. The timing is kinda hard. You just got to be fast with it.
Edit: Oh, and I think I'm talking about doing something different. This is when he does it on the ground. I haven't tried it, but what Desu is saying is probably truuuuu for when you're in the air. This is pretty interesting.
Edit: Oh, and I think I'm talking about doing something different. This is when he does it on the ground. I haven't tried it, but what Desu is saying is probably truuuuu for when you're in the air. This is pretty interesting.
GDX
Smash Hero
you should pay attention to my caravan thread. i've picked up Rx before on my way to a SFL tourney and im gonna do it again this saturday. And he lives in Melbourne, which i believe is where you live, or close to it. if getting you adds only 15-20 minutes to my total trip, then ill get you on the way to a tourney, if you pay for gas
again, visit my caravan thread for more info
Daysoo
Smash Ace
So it looks like it works with aerials OR another grenade.
Mindgames, anyone?
Gmoney
Smash Ace
Yeah, I don't know if actually having to hold another grenade is required, but it probably is. I'm too lazy to test especially because I don't play Snake, heh. By the way, I hope people can understand my explanation. I suck at explaining things. It's way easier to just show, but I have no way of recording right now.
Daysoo
Smash Ace
I understood it, it's fairly easy to do off the ground, no momentum to cancel.
I think it might just be a 'trick', in the tricky sense.
Doing an aerial makes you take the focus off the fact that your DI is neutral from holding back, and then you can DI in a new direction from neutral with the pivot.
SabinX
Smash Journeyman
hylian come to willvolution! bring TX ppl with you.
AfroQT
Smash Master
i've never seen anyone in Cali do it, in some of the recent videos from tourneys DSF has been to, he trys to do it but doesnt. All i can say is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQC42rQSTFA
at about 1:00 into the video look at how the green snake changes direction. I cant seem to do it lol.
Gmoney
Smash Ace
None of this is all that useful, however, and this is slightly different from simple pivoting. I've known about this since a few weeks after the game came out, but I don't play Snake so I've never done this with grenades. Pretty cool for spacing or a weak mindgame, but it's not that amazing.
Oh, and I'm totally going to b-reversal my tornadoes now! I'll be unstoppable!
Oh, and I'm totally going to b-reversal my tornadoes now! I'll be unstoppable!
AfroQT
Smash Master
**** i'll have no chance.
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
firstly, lulz @ fd being diddy's only good stage.
and double lulz @ diddy being even with MK.
and double lulz @ diddy being even with MK.