control stick instead of x?

[Planet Piss]

It's possible to use the analog to sh and play fluidly at the same time. By using the analog as Fox, you no longer have to wait for your thumb to move from a jump button to an attack button, nor do you have to adopt an alternative controller-holding style. It's extremely difficult, but when learned properly, jumping out of the shine (doing shine attacks and combos in general) has much more potential, because the the shine and moves thereafter are one continuous motion. Another interesting note is that while using the analog to sh, one can dash, shine, and more easily exit the shine fast enough so that Fox still has plenty of forward momentum, even after a wd or wl. When used practically, one particular exploitation of this is the shinedrill. No, not drillshine, shinedrill. Read your opponent's roll (for example) by dashing and follow through by shining and jumping out of the shine quickly enough to combo with a drill, thus preventing the opponent from having the opportunity to slide away (neglecting the possibility of SDI, of course.) Oh, and did I mention that doing this is extremely difficult? It's extremely difficult.
Note: This method is only preferable alongside use of the c-stick. It's too difficult to both jump and control attack direction with the same stick.

 

[Corigames]

Falcon is the hardest to shorthop with in the game?
AND FOX?
I thought it was Samus or Sheik.

If this is true, I would like to point out that I consistently short-hop with Samus and I use the analog stick.
Ego +1

 

[Wretched]

A common misconception that will come from this thread is that a lot of people jump with the control stick relative to the amount of people who use X or Y. This isn't true. Most of the posters are posting to demonstrate that they do something out of the ordinary, so people reading this shouldn't think that it is a good habit to start using the control stick.
Regardless of how good some players who use the control stick are (I.E. Hungry box) it doesn't mean it is a good idea to start using it. HB uses jigglypuff, anyways, and I use the control stick to jump when I play jiggly.

Undeniably, at a higher level of play, using the control stick with characters who aren't jigglypuff will limit you greatly. Ideally, the best player would use all of the buttons since they all have uses, and would therefore be able to play as fast as possible. An example of this would be someone using Y to jump, Z to attack, stick to fastfall, L to l-cancel, and then R to wavedash, all in succession. If the player used the stick or the cstick or R for the L cancel and the wavedash, he would technically be limiting himself, so why limit yourself?