Osie v FF is TvT. Mercuri is not a good alternative. I’m busy all day as people may or may not know, I might post in the discord though but I’ll make myself available before the deadline to actually vote and such.
where is this confidence on the TvT coming from? Osie was scummy af, and despite me now knowing we were TvT I find it unsettling that you jumped to say "this is TvT" with no explanation
Do you really think that's going to get tracktion in one hour?
Sigh
##Vote: mercuri
You know I'm down with that.
Mer, if you have any good insight you were saving for later, pleaseee drop it now
##Unvote
##Vote: Mərcuri
as happy as I am about us getting rid of what would have been a perma null slot, I'm extremely suss about how quickly these two slots jumped on the merc wagon literally in the very next two posts following xivii's switch to merc. somi's vote just feels like the "oh darn guess we don't have any other options, you sure this'll work? aww shucks man" type fake reluctance and DP's request for "good insight" seems disingenuous given he's enabling a quicklynch by putting the slot at L-2 within minutes of the wagon even starting
Not Osie in any world. That draws suspicion to his claim, and obviously he's protecting me
this doesn't make any ****ing sense. What you do mean you NKing osie would "draw suspicion to his claim?" If you kill him he flips and his role is revealed, what room would be left for suspicion re: his claim once the flip makes in clear?
I’ll claim first as the pop-gun vigilante, that way I don’t have to claim second today because I said I was not going to claim second and that is what I am most adamant about.
That mercuri yeet was the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a really really long time and the scum behind it have my utmost disappointment.
empty shade throwing here is gross, literally zero attempt to do wagonomics on the EoD but still says people on it are scum. Looks like trying to narrow the lynch pool to just those voters and make those not on the misyeet, himself included, look like paragons
The dude wasn't even voting lmao. Not a slot to keep around.
And you were vanity voting on town so not sure how your opinion is of value here tbh
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Chaco was the optimal night kill from all perspectives. I didn't at all think osie's role was legit and so would have had no worry killing outside of him. Scum essentially shot themselves in the foot be killing osie.
I definitely had this thought after I saw the kill that it was probably someone who actually believed his claim, I was saying it was a gambit from the start but obviously given osies flip I think he mustve been legitimately confused about how NAR works and why his passive ability rendered his role useless, or he DID understand NAR and is WAS a gambit, but just a town gambit to pull the NK
I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT! THAT WAS LITERALLY EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING THAT SCUM!XIVII WOULD WANT TO DO! THE SCUMTEAM IS SOMITOMI/XIVII
what the actual **** is this? this comes off like scared scum kneejerk reacting to xivii's push and feeling the noose begin to tighten. Big scum pings from this
It bothers me that DPs point alludes to the fact that Osie’s ability had a potential to work and that was the reason he got killed.
I think I know what you're getting at here but can you unpack this a bit more? point is related to my point made above re: xivii's NK rationale assessment
Chaco
please tell me that you see this doesn't come from town haha. Boom would not actually think this is a legit point to consider. Of course mafia would have this, especially given the fact that I've established many times that Kary 100% gave scum roles to fit in (whether that it's their actual role or safe claim). I mean not doing so would just be negligent. This is fake to the 1 millionth degree.
Can you explain this more?
UP is hardcoasting today.
he started coasting as soon as I started calling him out for just spamming LAMIST and acting like town leader just for being really "active" early D1. I get heavy vibes that his now absence in contrast to this initial energetic approach to the game is the result of scum being deflated that they didn't obtain the early game clout they wanted from the early activity push. Has a very "well **** it, I couldn't take the reins early with my early powerplay so I'll just coast now so that I don't draw scrutiny to my slot with out getting a concomitant town!clout reward." UP was leaning so hard into his self proclaimed position as most obvtown, this complete relinquishment of that approach and contentment to just ride in the background now doesn't seem like what a townslot would do. I'd expect for a "ok fine I get LAMIST is lame but I'm still going to be active af and push my reads because I'm actually confident in them" approach, not a throw up your hands and fade away
I follow your logic here, I think DP's comments really do reflect a genuine lack of info re: somi's slot. Not that this isn't fakeable, but given the surrounding context you provided I think it's really unlikely to be staged
He did so as town in Oasis as well I believe.
was he trying to push himself as town leader in that game too prior to the coasting?
Killing osie was indeed a mistake. You and DP though seem to be the only one's that believed his claim, as evident by your response to his claim yesterday, which caused you to back off the mass claim.
as WIFOM as this all is, I really do think that this is a meaningful point
I never said it was orchestrated by him. I said he set the table for it. He planted it into everyone's minds, taken advantage of by Xivii at EoD. It was a team effort.
I really, really wish I was this slick as scum lmao, using policy as a basis for for opening the door to a slot and then having a partner pick up the wagon at EoD and close the wagon without my help is chefs kiss level scumplay. this a big reach though, I wasn't planting anything in anyone's minds, there was nothing subtle about my callouts of mercs slot, I was frustrated with an antitown playstyle that would not have existed in old school dgames and being a curmudgeony old **** about it, it's really that simple
I'm not changing my vote btw. It's ridiculous that UP's done nothing for two phases, Hasn't answered a single question from today.
amen
##Vote: UtopianPyozin
I think we're either dealing with a full coast scum team or one coaster and one powerwolf between boom/xivii/chaco. UP/somi and UP/DP are very possible in my mind but I'm paranoid af that I'm getting outplayed/pocketed by boom/xiivi/chaco. if one of those three slots is scum though that should be easier to figure out as the game goes on and with a hopeful scumflip before any lylo scenario to assess the papertrail of
