Comparing Melee and Project M

[Hakkat]

Which one do you like better.

They are both amazing, but I can't decide which is better...

Melee had adventure, and the gameplay made it so you couldn't spam as easily as in P:M.

In P:M, all characters are good (mostly all of them) and this adds more balance and options to your character, it makes it almost seem like tiers are pointless for this game (this is a good thing)

Although the events and everything still suck, so this goes to Melee

oh and stages easily goes to P:M

Thoughts?

P.S. I'm still stuck on which has better gameplay. The characters and balance go towards P:M, but Melee still had great gameplay and may take more skill, but I'm not sure about that...

 

[Rikana]

Why compare? Just play both since you like them. It's better to think of PM as an entirely new game.

 

[Hakkat]

Why compare? Just play both since you like them. It's better to think of PM as an entirely new game.

True ^_^

I just can't decide which one I like more...or which one I'm better at xD

 

[Vashimus]

Hate to sound like a douche...... but you need to calm down with these new threads, Hakkat.

 

[1MachGO]

Why compare? Just play both since you like them. It's better to think of PM as an entirely new game.

Why not compare two games that are in the same series where one is inspired by gameplay elements and character designs from the other?

Not a jab at P:M of course (which is amazing). I am just not a particular fan of the "judge it on its own merit" card for games in a series.

 

[ELI-mination]

No comparison, Project M is obviously superior

 

[Hakkat]

Hate to sound like a douche...... but you need to calm down with these new threads, Hakkat.

Lol sorry, I have nothing to do on Monday and Tuesday and I get bored...

And I like to ask lots of questions

No comparison, Project M is obviously superior

Lol, I guess

 

[9bit_alt]

I don't rate the single player modes in my comparison. I can see why one would, though.

Thing is, Project M will constantly evolve. Both in design and programming from the developers' side, and in the player metagame, whereas Melee can only evolve on the player side.

 

[Hakkat]

I don't rate the single player modes in my comparison. I can see why one would, though.

Thing is, Project M will constantly evolve. Both in design and programming from the developers' side, and in the player metagame, whereas Melee can only evolve on the player side.

That is actually a great point! I never really thought of it like that.

I do think P:M is probably the superior game, especially when TURBO MODE arrives!

 

[F. Blue]

The playerbase for Melee is a lot stronger though. That's one downside of the game constantly evolving; the players' growth is stunted.

 

[Aenglaan]

No comparison, Project M is obviously superior

I agree. Project M is everything Melee is and more.

 

[Vashimus]

Yeah, the only reason I go back to Melee is because of the leftover characters. Once they're added into P:M, there's little incentive for me to put that GC disc in.

 

[Deleted member]

Currently, it's only 90% superior to Melee. After final release, when everything has been smoothed over and the rest of the characters are added in, it will be 99% superior to Melee. If they manage to add Mewtwo back in, it will be 105% superior to Melee.

The main thing to take away from this is that P:M is superior to Melee.

 

[Hakkat]

Yeah, I agree, P:M has got to be superior...lol

and yes, they really should add Mewtwo back in...they really should

They should make him SLIGHTLY faster, a little bit heavier and a little bit less floaty

Make him stronger too. Knowing how well of a job the creators of P:M did (I was shocked when I first saw how good it was), I think that if they bring Mewtwo back, he will be epic.

 

[Strong Badam]

Project M is superior in nearly every way. The things it's lacking will come in due time.
No point in playing Melee anymore.

 

[Spiffykins]

So once the game is all polished and all the characters are released and people stop keeping tons of stupid stages legal in tournament, what are the odds of PM becoming the new Melee? Will there be too many people dedicated to Melee for PM to overtake it?

 

[SpiderMad]

If P:M completely overtakes Melee, that'll be a sad day. I'm probably projecting extra bias on how everyone plays Lol/Dota 2 now while Dota 1 using the Wc3 engine still feels better in every way (P:M feels better than Melee though, Brawl engine is pretty awesome in its entirety). I also hate the look of Dota 2/LoL.

 

[DvarakElt]

There will always be Fox mains salty enough about not being able to destroy half the cast by just being faster than them. I played a guy on the weekend who ******* so hard about Ness actually being usable.

Some people will be hanging onto melee for a long time, but honestly, I don't think they're the kind of people who I want to play against anyway.

 

[Ace55]

PM is far better, and I absolutely love melee.

It doesn't matter around here though. Melee players here would rather let melee slowly die than give PM a fair chance =(

 

[R2_GP]

The amount of brawl lovers in this thread is too danm high

 

[Burnsy]

There will always be Fox mains salty enough about not being able to destroy half the cast by just being faster than them. I played a guy on the weekend who *****ed so hard about Ness actually being usable.

Some people will be hanging onto melee for a long time, but honestly, I don't think they're the kind of people who I want to play against anyway.

Oh my god, this is so true.

 

[Strong Badam]

Brawl lovers...? I'm not sure if that's supposed to be some form of uninspired derogatory term or something, but this thread seems full of Project M lovers to me.

 

[R2_GP]

It just annoys me how peopple say: "project m is WAY better than melee" but when a melee player says that in his opinion melee still better his a "fox main hanging onto melee for a long time". dont get me wrong Project M is awesome

 

[Hakkat]

Brawl lovers...? I'm not sure if that's supposed to be some form of uninspired derogatory term or something, but this thread seems full of Project M lovers to me.

Yeah, I don't really like Brawl that much. I like Melee, and I love P:M. It's like a more balanced version of melee.

There will always be Fox mains salty enough about not being able to destroy half the cast by just being faster than them. I played a guy on the weekend who *****ed so hard about Ness actually being usable.

Some people will be hanging onto melee for a long time, but honestly, I don't think they're the kind of people who I want to play against anyway.

Exactly why it's more balanced

 

[Tero.]

Melee is just THE game. It's perfect in every aspect. From physics to character Design and even the moves. Like Brawl Fox is a ****** compared to Melee Fox and even in P:M his moves just don't look as good as they do in Melee (obv using Melee Fox head in P:M)
P:M is awesome, but it'll never be the original.

 

[HyperrCrow]

Like Brawl Fox is a ****** compared to Melee Fox and even in P:M his moves just don't look as good as they do in Melee (obv using Melee Fox head in P:M)
P:M is awesome, but it'll never be the original.

Gotta agree with this. It looks so damn weird, I wish we could just port the Melee Fox over to P:M cause he just looks boss.

 

[Professor Pro]

Melee is just THE game. It's perfect in every aspect. From physics to character Design and even the moves. Like Brawl Fox is a ****** compared to Melee Fox and even in P:M his moves just don't look as good as they do in Melee (obv using Melee Fox head in P:M)
P:M is awesome, but it'll never be the original.

If your idea of perfect character design is having more than half of the cast competitively unviable then ok...but if it isn't, then......

 

[ELI-mination]

<3 professor pro
and strong ***

 

[R2_GP]

"half of the cast competitively unviable"? c'mon man this is 2013 metagame, low tiers aren't that low anymore. Brawl seems to be way more unbalanced anyway. see apex 2013 brawl top 10

 

[traffic.]

It just annoys me how peopple say: "project m is WAY better than melee" but when a melee player says that in his opinion melee still better his a "fox main hanging onto melee for a long time". dont get me wrong Project M is awesome

I have yet to hear an opinion explaining why melee is better. I've only ever heard that PM is bad because it's not melee, which is a logical fallacy and a lacking argument. If a melee player could explain why PM is not a better game, and use actual values of both games to compare and contrast the effect the differences have, then there would be a discussion. I have yet to hear a single argument from anyone as to why melee is fundamentally a better game and until one single time this happens then it IS silly ******** about fox's throne.

Melee is just THE game. It's perfect in every aspect. From physics to character Design and even the moves. Like Brawl Fox is a ****** compared to Melee Fox and even in P:M his moves just don't look as good as they do in Melee (obv using Melee Fox head in P:M)
P:M is awesome, but it'll never be the original.

Quoted for bad.

 

[Burnsy]

Melee is just THE game. It's perfect in every aspect. From physics to character Design and even the moves. Like Brawl Fox is a ****** compared to Melee Fox and even in P:M his moves just don't look as good as they do in Melee (obv using Melee Fox head in P:M)
P:M is awesome, but it'll never be the original.

It won't ever be the original because it is trying to exceed the original. Melee is far from being a perfect game, but don't get me wrong, it is a very awesome one.

 

[Strong Badam]

"half of the cast competitively unviable"? c'mon man this is 2013 metagame, low tiers aren't that low anymore. Brawl seems to be way more unbalanced anyway. see apex 2013 brawl top 10

i always find it funny how people go "over half of the cast is viable, just look at abate!" when over 90% of them have a fox or falco character icon in their profile. take it from someone who has accomplished more with a character in the bottom half of the tier list than thousands of players ever did or ever will with the best characters; the list of viable characters in SSBM realistically only includes 6 characters, 8 if you reach really hard. getting 5th over and over at the annual international is not "viable," winning is.

dunno where anyone brought up brawl. brawl is notably less balanced than melee which is about 4 or 5 times less balanced than project m.

Melee is just THE game. It's perfect in every aspect. From physics to character Design and even the moves. Like Brawl Fox is a ****** compared to Melee Fox and even in P:M his moves just don't look as good as they do in Melee (obv using Melee Fox head in P:M)
P:M is awesome, but it'll never be the original.

i'd like to say this is the funniest post i've ever read, but i've read even deeper melee ****-riding than this before. melee is a fantastic game that has had a prolific and breathtaking competitive lifespan and i owe a lot to it (i made many of my best friends through melee), but to state that it's impossible to improve upon is asinine. when you're criticizing the character models as your last line of defense in comparing the two games, you really need to take a step back and look at yourself. there can and will eventually be a better competitive fighter than ssbm, whether or not you'll realize it is another story. have fun arguing with a 12 year old community over whether or not wobbling should be legal, i'll be busy playing a game where it doesn't exist, among a host of other improvements such as more than 5 or 6 competitively viable stages, 25+ competitively viable characters (that's more characters than are even selectable in SSBM, btw), and an absurdly deep 2v2 metagame.

 

[Jolteon]

It just annoys me how peopple say: "project m is WAY better than melee" but when a melee player says that in his opinion melee still better his a "fox main hanging onto melee for a long time". dont get me wrong Project M is awesome

I believe sb's point is that "Brawl lovers" are people who love Brawl, not Project M.

 

[0RLY]

Asking the PM boards which game is superior is obviously going to get biased results. With that being said,

Melee is like the first donut I've ever had.
Brawl is like the hole in the donut.
PM is like the cream inside my donut.
I guess 64 is like those munchkins donut balls

 

[Deleted member]

Melee is just THE game. It's perfect in every aspect.

I can't imagine anybody saying that with a straight face. Yes, we had a lot of fun playing Melee, and yes, it was "the best" in the sense that it was the best Smash available at the time (at least from a competitive/depth of gameplay standpoint), but it was still a game with many flaws. We had no choice but to accept its limitations. This is no longer the case with Project M, which takes all the good things from Melee and builds upon it.

 

[KayB]

I like Melee a lot more. PM is vastly superior in nearly every aspect. You just can't argue against that, its a fact. That being said, Melee just feels better and smoother to me and as a result I have more fun playing it.

Also, it may be just me, but I have the most fun playing PM on the different legal stages available.

 

[HyperrCrow]

Also, it may be just me, but I have the most fun playing PM on the different legal stages available.

Wish I could agree, but I'm a "No items, Fox only, Final Destination!" type of guy.

 

[ELI-mination]

^wow, these people really exist

 

[SpiderMad]

I'll never understand how people think Melee feels better than P:M, but more-so how nobody recognizes light press air dodge is amazing. Hitboxes feel more Meaty in Melee, that's the only pro Melee feel aspect I got: not to say P:M's feel bad. If we're talking about character control, and everything concerning movement of your character: P:M almost lets you reach levels of Hax and IHSB movement for a lot less effort. The aesthetics/looks of Melee still mean a lot, and P:M is still Brawl with a Melee camera, but I only consider them different and not really better than the other (Compared to Dota 1 vs LoL, LoL minions look so dumb). Also people can't talk about aesthetics until they buy Wii component cables: you're not viewing the full P:M nor Melee till you use those. http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Wii-Component-Cable-Definition-Packaging/dp/B000M5ZIVY/ref=pd_cp_vg_3

 

[Tero.]

OP asks "which one do you like better"
Obv I've posted my opinion which should be clear because from an objektiv Point of view its obv not perfect.
Way to go bashing me for my opinion

W/e strong Bad what you did is like 10000 times more **** riding btw, good job