So if I pull a bomb out from my left pocket rather than my right, I have a unique move... or if I start a spinning slash over my head as opposed to at torso level, it's completely original? lol I'm not trying to be an *** but all his B moves are the SAME. That also goes for directions you fly... that is not to say it doesn't effect the way they fight, cause yes it changes things very much for how you would use it. However the point is you could switch it to be a strategically unique move instead of something that just requires different timing but executes in a near identical way.
Like the three Star Fox reflectors. Each one operates in different mechanics but that's not enough to make me claim it's three original moves. They are so obviously the same thing just with different timing attributed to them. And yet they are still more different than this... a boomerang that just hits instead of pulling a slight amount, SO ORIGINAL. lol
If you pull a bomb out of your right pocket instead of your left, you throw it, it has original throwing animation, and it effects the opponent almost COMPLETELY diffrently, and has diffrent knockback, with really few, if any stolen frames, then that's a clone move. RIGHT! [/sarcasm] It might not be original, but it isn't the same. Everything about it, from start to finish, is diffrent. His up B has diffrent animations. It does a completely diffrent effect. It has diffrent spinning and slashing frames. The boomerange ACTUALLY does damage vs. the waste of the gale boomerang. It has original animation, and might (notice I said might) have a tracking ability like Samus' missles...sorta. (I've heard from places o_O)
Toon Link has original aerials. The only one that's the same is the swordplant, and it's completely original animations, bouncings off opponents vs. sucking b***s like Link's, spikes, and makes you fast fall. Everything about it is diffrent. All the rest of the aerieals Toon Link has are more like basically any character BUT Mario.
Are you kidding me? Wolf is a lot closer to Falco then Toon Link is to Link.
Wolf has about two original aerials. Toon Link has five (the swordplant has original animation, original knockback, and original effects). Wolf has few original smash attacks frames, and they generally do the same thing as Falco. Toon Link's frames are generally original, and do much diffrent from Link's attack's effects. Toon Link's grab game is original. Wolf's grabs are...well...sorta confuseding (new word!
). I can't really tell, but there are a lot of original frames in there, I can tell you that much.
Toon Link's tilts are completely original EXCEPT for the forward tilt. Wolf has about two or three completely original tilts. Toon Link has two
completely original special attacks in the Boomerang and Spin Attack, with the bombs and bow and arrow have completely original frames, effects, knockback, and so on. Wolf has three original special attacks (the shine is way diffrent in effect), with the blaster being sorta original. It has some of the same frames possibly, but most of them look original, comparing the three (his pose is much diffrent). Toon Link has one completely original smash attack, one with almost all original frames, if not all original frames (down smash; haven't seen it much, so I'm unsure) (also with very original stun, knockback, and effect), and one that has some (not sure how many) original frames.
Wolf statistically is almost the same as Fox, Falco, and Wolf. There attacks have very original frames, and pretty original effect, and stun. But their stats are what make them seem very "clooney". Toon Link's special moves are decieving, but alas, they are basically all original in animation, effect, stun, knockback, range, and everything. In other words, they are ORIGINAL ATTACKS! Clones are dead in Brawl. We got semi-clones, and that's it. When everything is original with a "similar-looking" attack, it does not mean it's a cloned attack. It usually means you are overspeculating.
The fact is, clones aren't in Brawl. We don't know anything about Brawl, aside from those who play it. And they say these "clones" are very original. I think we should take their word for it. The word "clone" in Brawl is dead. "semi-clones" are what we'll see, from now on, in this "new" game. "New, original, fun" game. In Melee, clones play pretty diffrently. In Brawl, I've seen a few Link vs. Toon Link duels, and their moves come out and finish original (most of the time), they do original effects, they move diffrently, they have original effects, they do diffrent knockback and impact amounts, and they're just overall much diffrent. With Melee the small diffrences with Fox and Falco, for example, created a completely diffrent meta-game with each other...well...ALMOST!
With Brawl, Toon Link might be more like Squirtle and Sonic then Link. If you watch these moves closely, see how they effect opponents, watch the range, and watch the character who is performing them's stance, you'll se just how much diffrent they are. As much as I would have liked Toon Link to have his Skull Hammer as his nuetral B (stealing Kirby's Hammer animations, if he must), Deku Leaf as his down B (steal Peach's animations for the Parasol while floating if you must, along with original wooshing over his head stunning animations), and Four Swords Links (or summon the Wind Gods) as his Final Smash, this is what we got. And if you look closely at everything, you'll see Toon Link is more an original character then a clone.
I Always disliked Young Link...An i'lll Continue to dislike him as Toon Link, i Hate clones waste Of a character Spot, Some other unique Character could be in brawl instead of toon link.
If it wasn't for clones, Melee would have 20 characters. It'd be the same roster, minus 6 clones. Maybe Luigi would be further decloned. And if you were lucky, Falco would be what he is now. If there weren't "clones" in Brawl, in which they all generally have original frames, and do original effects (thus, the term "semi-clone" comes to mind), we'd have the same roster, but not clones. And maybe Luigi with a three or four more original moves. It'd be a 35 (moveset) character roster, not a 39.
Compare and contrast. Most of us would prefer a delay to make Young Link original, yes, but this is better then no characters at all. You aren't a director, you don't know anything about how to make video games, and you don't know how to make a smash game. Seriously, GTFO troll! Go back to your clone killing friends whereever you came. If it wasn't a clone in Melee, it would have been an assist trophy or a Pokéball Pokémon. You've never played Brawl. People who have say he's fairly original. Clones are dead in Brawl anyways, despite this, but "semi-clones" take their place. Stop whinning like a spoiled 3 year old and get over yourself.
And learn to add periods, use the cap button properly, etc. while you're at it!
