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[CLICHE TITLE] Ladder 2012

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Sol9000

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Welcome to the [CLICHE TITLE HERE] Ladder 2012!

Basic Rules:


  • Type: 3 Stock
  • Damage is at 1.0
  • All Items should be turned off.
  • No Longer Accepting Entries
ALLOWED STAGES:
:battlefieldb::lylat::smashville::fdb:

Advanced Rules- Tactics:

  • Loser reports results. If there is a Dispute, we decide who is correct with a 1 (or 2) Minute Time Battle that both players should accept a replay of and both send the file to me via PM.
  • No player may choose a stage they have already won on in that set unless agreed upon by both players.
  • No Circle Camping, Sharking, Planking, or any other banned tactic (Not like you would, anyway. There aren't any prizes)
Advanced Rules- Character Specific and Glitches

  • Any action that can prevent the game from continuing (i.e., freezing, disappearing characters, game reset, etc.) will result in a forfeit of that match for the player that initiated the action. You are responsible for knowing your own character, and must be wary about accidentally triggering one of these effects.
  • If the battle ends in a draw with Bowser's "Suicide Throw" during sudden death, the player who triggered the event is declared the winner.
  • Meta Knight's Infinite Cape Glitch is banned.
Advanced Rules- Schedule:

  • All battles within a round should be completed within a week. However, we'll wait up to one month if your schedule demands it.
  • No-Shows are subject to disqualification unless a Replacement is available.

Players:

To Join, simply follow these steps:

1. Copy this:
Username/In-Game Name/Friend Code/

2. Type in your Username, In-Game Name, and Friend Code like this:
Sol9000/NEOS/4083-8311-2457

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. Copy and paste this to a reply for this Thread.

Players Currently Registered:



  • Vinyl/Vinyl/1291-4068-0982
  • BooN/BooN/0733-9725-6157
  • Blazer/Riku/1891-2002-0904
  • gothrax/guts/3093 7244 9293
  • Replacements For Hire
The ladder has begun!
Wins- +1 per win | Loses- -1 per loss

Vinyl- (20)
BooN- (20)
Blazer- Bye!
Gothrax- (20)
Player with least amount of points on June 1st, 2012 is eliminated.

Good Luck To Everyone!
 

Iota

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There are several really bad things with this tournament...first of all why the hell is rob and GW banned?! There's nothing wrong at all with those characters. Secondly, items should be banned period there should be absolutely no exception whatsoever to it. Third, Skyworld and moses island are terrible stages and should be replaced by better stages(I.e. halberd and delfino.). fourth, dividing players by age is an absolutely terrible idea. I happen to be one of the best players here but I'm only 14 so I can't join the expert group even though that would be the only group that would be able to be a challenge to me. Last of all, hacking being banned is stupid as 99% of the players here use texture and music hacks...
 

zmx

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There are several really bad things with this tournament...first of all why the hell is rob and GW banned?! There's nothing wrong at all with those characters. Secondly, items should be banned period there should be absolutely no exception whatsoever to it. Third, Skyworld and moses island are terrible stages and should be replaced by better stages(I.e. halberd and delfino.). fourth, dividing players by age is an absolutely terrible idea. I happen to be one of the best players here but I'm only 14 so I can't join the expert group even though that would be the only group that would be able to be a challenge to me. Last of all, hacking being banned is stupid as 99% of the players here use texture and music hacks...
This.

Also, I'm not sure if OP is even a serious post. I mean, 3 stocks but a 2 mins timer? Really? EVERY game will go to time with this timer.

Do you think all players are so bad they lose 3 stocks in under 2 mins? For you to even suggest this tells me you have no idea how the game is played on competitive level and probably have never played anyone even half-decent.
 

zmx

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Okay, I just visited your website and found this:

"This Tier List is only in effect from November 2011 to an indeffanite time.
How we will test these characters for this period's Ranking: They will be played by a CPU, which will be set to Lv 6, and will face three characters at Lv 4 (all on the same team) in a one minute Time Match. Repeat 3 times. How well they do each time will determine their rank in the Tier list.
Here is the Tier List:
GOD Tier [8 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Meta Knight
Rank A Tier [7 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Wolf
Rank B Tier [6 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Pikachu
Rank C Tier [5 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Donkey Kong, Link, Sonic, R.O.B., Lucas
Rank D Tier [4 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Kirby, Pokemon Trainer, Ice Climbers, Lucario, Toon Link, Captain Falcon
Rank E Tier [3 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Mario, Samus, Marth, Pit, Ike, King Dedede, Wario
Rank F Tier [2 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Fox, Luigi, Falco, Snake, Peach, Ganondorf
Rank G Tier [1 KO (minus SDs and Falls)]: Diddy Kong, Zelda/Sheik, Yoshi, Bowser
FAIL Tier [0 KOs (minus SDs and Falls) or less]: Mr. Game & Watch, Ness, Olimar, Jigglypuff

Note: This Tier List is only in effect until we figure a better solution to sort characters into Tiers"

I am in a public place right now and thus am trying extremely hard to refrain from laughing. This has to be a joke.

How do you misspell tournament so many times when it's right here on this site?
 

Sol9000

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Okay, I just visited your website and found this:

"This Tier List is only in effect from November 2011 to an indeffanite time.
How we will test these characters for this period's Ranking: They will be played by a CPU, which will be set to Lv 6, and will face three characters at Lv 4 (all on the same team) in a one minute Time Match. Repeat 3 times. How well they do each time will determine their rank in the Tier list.
Here is the Tier List:
GOD Tier [8 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Meta Knight
Rank A Tier [7 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Wolf
Rank B Tier [6 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Pikachu
Rank C Tier [5 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Donkey Kong, Link, Sonic, R.O.B., Lucas
Rank D Tier [4 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Kirby, Pokemon Trainer, Ice Climbers, Lucario, Toon Link, Captain Falcon
Rank E Tier [3 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Mario, Samus, Marth, Pit, Ike, King Dedede, Wario
Rank F Tier [2 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Fox, Luigi, Falco, Snake, Peach, Ganondorf
Rank G Tier [1 KO (minus SDs and Falls)]: Diddy Kong, Zelda/Sheik, Yoshi, Bowser
FAIL Tier [0 KOs (minus SDs and Falls) or less]: Mr. Game & Watch, Ness, Olimar, Jigglypuff

Note: This Tier List is only in effect until we figure a better solution to sort characters into Tiers"

I am in a public place right now and thus am trying extremely hard to refrain from laughing. This has to be a joke.

How do you misspell tournament so many times when it's right here on this site?
Would you like me to take that down? It's not helping anyone at this point
 

zmx

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There is already a perfectly viable tier list out on this site. It is based off of frame data, careful analysis, MU ratios and tourny results. Yours is based off of random CPU matches. Which is why it is almost completely inaccurate.
 

Sol9000

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There is already a perfectly viable tier list out on this site. It is based off of frame data, careful analysis, MU ratios and tourny results. Yours is based off of random CPU matches. Which is why it is almost completely inaccurate.
...

Excuse me, then, while I delete the website. It's no longer necessary nor does it have enough value to keep.
 

Sol9000

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Okay, I just visited your website and found this:

"This Tier List is only in effect from November 2011 to an indeffanite time.
How we will test these characters for this period's Ranking: They will be played by a CPU, which will be set to Lv 6, and will face three characters at Lv 4 (all on the same team) in a one minute Time Match. Repeat 3 times. How well they do each time will determine their rank in the Tier list.
Here is the Tier List:
GOD Tier [8 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Meta Knight
Rank A Tier [7 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Wolf
Rank B Tier [6 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Pikachu
Rank C Tier [5 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Donkey Kong, Link, Sonic, R.O.B., Lucas
Rank D Tier [4 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Kirby, Pokemon Trainer, Ice Climbers, Lucario, Toon Link, Captain Falcon
Rank E Tier [3 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Mario, Samus, Marth, Pit, Ike, King Dedede, Wario
Rank F Tier [2 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Fox, Luigi, Falco, Snake, Peach, Ganondorf
Rank G Tier [1 KO (minus SDs and Falls)]: Diddy Kong, Zelda/Sheik, Yoshi, Bowser
FAIL Tier [0 KOs (minus SDs and Falls) or less]: Mr. Game & Watch, Ness, Olimar, Jigglypuff

Note: This Tier List is only in effect until we figure a better solution to sort characters into Tiers"

I am in a public place right now and thus am trying extremely hard to refrain from laughing. This has to be a joke.

How do you misspell tournament so many times when it's right here on this site?
You know, I'm still wondering if it was a joke too. Which is funny considering I made the dang thing... :chuckle:
 

Sol9000

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Sorry About the Mess...

There are several really bad things with this tournament...first of all why the hell is rob and GW banned?! There's nothing wrong at all with those characters. Secondly, items should be banned period there should be absolutely no exception whatsoever to it. Third, Skyworld and moses island are terrible stages and should be replaced by better stages(I.e. halberd and delfino.). fourth, dividing players by age is an absolutely terrible idea. I happen to be one of the best players here but I'm only 14 so I can't join the expert group even though that would be the only group that would be able to be a challenge to me. Last of all, hacking being banned is stupid as 99% of the players here use texture and music hacks...
1. G&W and R.O.B. are unbanned.
2. Now they are (And I am happy for that)
3. Yeah... Now they are banned.
4. You would've been able to go up. That was my fault for not making it clear. But anyway, now it is based off Skill now...
5. Cosmetic Hacks such as the ones you listed are okay now.

There, fixed! If you still have problems, feel free to force 'em into that sad little box this fourm has you put letters into to chat and I'll edit them out of the tournament. Same goes for everyone else. :)
 

zmx

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You still have the problem of only allotting 2 mins for 3 stock matches. And there should be no 5 stock matches imo.

The way it's usually done in tournys is:

1. 3 stock, 8 mins timer
2. Best of 3
3. Losers finals, winners finals, Grand finals are all best of 5.
4. All matches are 3 stocks
5. There is winners and losers bracket. So it's double elimination in other words.
6. There is no need for replays really unless there is a dispute. This almost never happens.
 

Sol9000

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This.

Also, I'm not sure if OP is even a serious post. I mean, 3 stocks but a 2 mins timer? Really? EVERY game will go to time with this timer.

Do you think all players are so bad they lose 3 stocks in under 2 mins? For you to even suggest this tells me you have no idea how the game is played on competitive level and probably have never played anyone even half-decent.
Sorry about that. I was slightly thinking elsewhere when I made that.

Okay, I just visited your website and found this:

"This Tier List is only in effect from November 2011 to an indeffanite time.
How we will test these characters for this period's Ranking: They will be played by a CPU, which will be set to Lv 6, and will face three characters at Lv 4 (all on the same team) in a one minute Time Match. Repeat 3 times. How well they do each time will determine their rank in the Tier list.
Here is the Tier List:
GOD Tier [8 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Meta Knight
Rank A Tier [7 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Wolf
Rank B Tier [6 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Pikachu
Rank C Tier [5 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Donkey Kong, Link, Sonic, R.O.B., Lucas
Rank D Tier [4 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Kirby, Pokemon Trainer, Ice Climbers, Lucario, Toon Link, Captain Falcon
Rank E Tier [3 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Mario, Samus, Marth, Pit, Ike, King Dedede, Wario
Rank F Tier [2 KOs (minus SDs and Falls)]: Fox, Luigi, Falco, Snake, Peach, Ganondorf
Rank G Tier [1 KO (minus SDs and Falls)]: Diddy Kong, Zelda/Sheik, Yoshi, Bowser
FAIL Tier [0 KOs (minus SDs and Falls) or less]: Mr. Game & Watch, Ness, Olimar, Jigglypuff

Note: This Tier List is only in effect until we figure a better solution to sort characters into Tiers"

I am in a public place right now and thus am trying extremely hard to refrain from laughing. This has to be a joke.

How do you misspell tournament so many times when it's right here on this site?
Wait, YOU VISITED THAT PIECE OF CRAP OF A WEBSITE? Bummer, dude.
 

Sol9000

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You still have the problem of only allotting 2 mins for 3 stock matches. And there should be no 5 stock matches imo.

The way it's usually done in tournys is:

1. 3 stock, 8 mins timer
2. Best of 3
3. Losers finals, winners finals, Grand finals are all best of 5.
4. All matches are 3 stocks
5. There is winners and losers bracket. So it's double elimination in other words.
6. There is no need for replays really unless there is a dispute. This almost never happens.
1. I've decided to use Time instead.
2. Best of 3? Okay then
3. I find just doing the winners final, thank you. ^.^ Best of 5 for it? Okay!
5. ... Perhaps not.
6. We'll see.
 

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USE THE EDIT BUTTON. I haven't seen multi-posting that bad since the time a newcomer quadruple posted =__=

Zmx you should know better than to double post by now >.>

Anyway tournament related stuff...Never restrict a set to one stage that's a terrible idea as that will give certain characters far more dominance than others (I.e you have BF for R1 which would give Marth, Falco, ect. an advantage against the rest of the cast. While with finals you have FD as the only stage which would give Diddy, ICs, Falco, ect. an advanatage against the rest of the cast.) If you didn't know only the person who is using the cosmetic hacks can see them not the opponent unless he has the same exact hacks on his wii. I don't understand why MK can't be used on halberd and yoshi's island (brawl) He has nothing game breaking on them like he does on brinstar and rainbow cruise <.<
 

Sol9000

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USE THE EDIT BUTTON. I haven't seen multi-posting that bad since the time a newcomer quadruple posted =__=

Zmx you should know better than to double post by now >.>

Anyway tournament related stuff...Never restrict a set to one stage that's a terrible idea as that will give certain characters far more dominance than others (I.e you have BF for R1 which would give Marth, Falco, ect. an advantage against the rest of the cast. While with finals you have FD as the only stage which would give Diddy, ICs, Falco, ect. an advanatage against the rest of the cast.) If you didn't know only the person who is using the cosmetic hacks can see them not the opponent unless he has the same exact hacks on his wii. I don't understand why MK can't be used on halberd and yoshi's island (brawl) He has nothing game breaking on them like he does on brinstar and rainbow cruise <.<
1. Srry fur the 2x posting.
2. I like what your thinking! Excuse me while I edit the entire thing!
3. OHHHHHHH...
4. Oh okay!
 

Rey-Rey

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Yeah I kinda have to agree with what Iota and Zmx are saying in that this tournament needs a lot of fixing O.o
Try to line it up to the standard tournament rules (which they are pretty much telling you) and that would make everyone happy ;D
Also I have to say that you shouldn't split the tournament up into age groups because I'm still 16 and i wouldn't know where to go lol... >.<
 

Sol9000

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Yeah I kinda have to agree with what Iota and Zmx are saying in that this tournament needs a lot of fixing O.o
Try to line it up to the standard tournament rules (which they are pretty much telling you) and that would make everyone happy ;D
Also I have to say that you shouldn't split the tournament up into age groups because I'm still 16 and i wouldn't know where to go lol... >.<
I ditched the Ages Groups a while ago. Now it is based off Skill Level! :D

Edit: Ok, so does Anyone have anymore suggestions before I ask to lock this topic and start over?
 

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Skyworld, shadow moses island, Rumble falls, icicle mountain, Yoshi's island (melee), distant planet, and luigi's mansion should be put under banned. Brinstar should be put under questionable. Pirate ship should be under banned.
 

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lol I actually thought this would have been a pretty lulzy tournamentt with all the original rules put into play especially the 1.5x damage for it
 

Sol9000

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Skyworld, shadow moses island, Rumble falls, icicle mountain, Yoshi's island (melee), distant planet, and luigi's mansion should be put under banned. Brinstar should be put under questionable. Pirate ship should be under banned.
What do you mean, under banned? Also, Brinstar is banned so Meta Knights would not be swarming the tournament like it's as if he was never banned in the first place

Edit: Icicle Mountain? I'm not sure if that's in Brawl. I shall Troll with you and put the Melee stage in the banned section.

Problem, Iota? :troll:
lol I actually thought this would have been a pretty lulzy tournamentt with all the original rules put into play especially the 1.5x damage for it
Is dis bad? :(
 

Sol9000

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Double Posting so this appears in everyone's subscriptions.

Problem, SmashBoards? :troll:
 

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Keep acting like a bad troll and you will be infracted. I meant summit, my bad but you don't have to be an ******* because of my mistake. Also banning ZSS because of her items is stupid. Going by that logic you'd also have to ban Wario, Snake, TL, Link, Diddy, Peach, and Rob, as they all have items that spawn items. Which would be stupid since none of them break the game with their items (including ZSS.) Why I'm bothering with you and your complete and utter incompetence I don't even know but I think you should read a couple guides before you even think of making another tournament. ~~~
 

Sol9000

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Keep acting like a bad troll and you will be infracted. I meant summit, my bad but you don't have to be an ******* because of my mistake. Also banning ZSS because of her items is stupid. Going by that logic you'd also have to ban Wario, Snake, TL, Link, Diddy, Peach, and Rob, as they all have items that spawn items. Which would be stupid since none of them break the game with their items (including ZSS.) Why I'm bothering with you and your complete and utter incompetence I don't even know but I think you should read a couple guides before you even think of making another tournament. ~~~
Sorry about that. I will put Summit under banned. Anyways, there is a glitch that makes Samus start off as Zero Suit Samus. I should be more specific with it. Thanks!
 

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That isn't a glitch that's a game mechanic. Whenever you're holding a specific button (depends on what kind of controller you're using) when you go to the stage selection screen with your icon on Samus when you start the match you will start out as ZSS
 

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If you don't mean to post twice then instead of posting again after double post apologizing use the edit button the say sorry in your 2nd post.
 

Sol9000

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I'll enter standard or expert, which ever one needs more entrants.
Name, Friend Code, and your favorite 3 characters to play as. Oh wait, I already entered you. Oops!

Anyway, I've scrapped the Ranks. It'll just be 16 people (or 8 if we can't get that many into it) on 1 bracket
 
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