Terrorking91
Smash Cadet
Hello and welcome to my thread. I know how to chain grab and i can do it with some characters well. But i dont know who is best to do it against who. If people could help me make a guide to say which person chain grabs who the best that would be awesome!
(ex on how to post plz)
Donkey kong: people he can chain
Mario: people he can chain
Not only will it help me out, but it could help other people out too!
(List so far)
Bowser:
Captain Falcon:
Dr. Mario: Fox, Falco, Marth, Shiek, DK, Pikachu, Link, Young Link, Bowser, Ganon, Roy, Yoshi, and Captain Falcon, himself, Mario
Donkey Kong: Fox, Falco, C. Falcon
Falco: Marth, Peach, C. Falcon, Falco, Fox
Fox: Falco, Captain Falcon, Fox
Game & Watch: Fox and Falco
Gannondorf: Fox, Falco, Shiek, Pichu, Bowser, DK, Link, Young Link, and Roy
Giga Bowser: any non-floaty character
Ice Climbers: Everyone! (cant do it to ice climbers enless only 1 is alive)
Jigglypuff:
Kirby:
Link:
Luigi:
Mario: Fox, Falco, Marth, Shiek, DK, Pikachu, Link, Young Link, Bowser, Ganon, Roy, Yoshi, and Captain Falcon, Yoshi, Dr. Mario
Marth: Fox, Falco, (lots more i know of that, he has the best chain grab in the game)
Mewtwo:
Ness:
Peach: Fox, Falco, C. Falcon
Pichu: Fox, Falco and Captain Falcon
Pikachu: Fox, Falco and Captain Falcon
Roy:
Samus:
Sheik: Bowser, Mario, Yoshi, Dr. Mario, Ness, Sheik
Yoshi:
Young Link:
Zelda: Fox, Falco, and Falcon
Thank you Magus420 for this guide on Gannondorf and Dr. Mario!!
- '~' means it's not exact, but is pretty close. All starting %s are exact however.
- The numbers go by before the throw damage.
- Falcon, Falco, and Fox show the U-Throw range followed by the D-Throw range. Everything else is just D-Throw.
(Dr. Mario)
Bowser --------- 0~35
Yoshi ------------ 0~20 (You have to grab his eyes at the end)
DK ---------------- 8~20 (Awesome...)
Falcon ----------- 4~45, 47~130
Ganon ----------- 0~30 (Grab his right leg)
Falco ------------- 0~60, 26~200+
Fox --------------- 0~55, 48~200
Sheik ------------ 0~60 (Pivot grab as needed to get the left leg)
Link -------------- 0~30
Y Link ----------- 0~30
Pichu ------------ 0~20
Pikachu --------- 0~20
Roy -------------- 0~50
A lot of these look pretty nice on paper, but most are easily jumped out of within 15-20% of the end %s if your grab is even a little off so keep that in mind.
Pye left off a number of ones for Ganon that have a good deal more range on them than a number of the ones that are on that list for others. I don't know where the line would be drawn for being useful and not useful (I consider Marth's good even though it ends at 15% along with his other low damage ones, since it forces a DJ out of them and gets a better setup off the throw like a d-air after a few regrabs). I would think a ~30% range, which is roughly 5 regrabs, at least counts as a substantial CG so for Ganon those are:
(Gannondorf)
Bowser --------- (4) ---- 0-72
Yoshi ------------ (2) ---- 0-36 (30+ make sure you grab his eyes before he spins around)
DK ---------------- (4) ---- 21-69
Ganon ---------- (3) ---- 0-67
Falco ------------- (5) --- 12-Death (250+)
Fox --------------- (5+) - 34-Death (250)
Sheik ------------ (1) ---- 0-90 (80-90 is very tricky due to Sheik's skinny legs)
Link -------------- (3) ---- 0-74
Y Link ----------- (1) ---- 0-72 (Legs ftw)
Pichu ------------ (2) ---- 0-54 (Thank his bigass head for this one)
Pikachu --------- (1) ---- 0-37 (His tumble animation works very much in his favor to escape)
G&W ------------- (2) ---- 0-28
Roy -------------- (3) ---- 0-91 (Hooray legs!
~Thank you for any help!~
List is comeing along great! Just need more info :/
If you see anything that is wrong let me know. Also if you know any more stuff left me know :D
(ex on how to post plz)
Donkey kong: people he can chain
Mario: people he can chain
Not only will it help me out, but it could help other people out too!
(List so far)
Bowser:
Captain Falcon:
Dr. Mario: Fox, Falco, Marth, Shiek, DK, Pikachu, Link, Young Link, Bowser, Ganon, Roy, Yoshi, and Captain Falcon, himself, Mario
Donkey Kong: Fox, Falco, C. Falcon
Falco: Marth, Peach, C. Falcon, Falco, Fox
Fox: Falco, Captain Falcon, Fox
Game & Watch: Fox and Falco
Gannondorf: Fox, Falco, Shiek, Pichu, Bowser, DK, Link, Young Link, and Roy
Giga Bowser: any non-floaty character
Ice Climbers: Everyone! (cant do it to ice climbers enless only 1 is alive)
Jigglypuff:
Kirby:
Link:
Luigi:
Mario: Fox, Falco, Marth, Shiek, DK, Pikachu, Link, Young Link, Bowser, Ganon, Roy, Yoshi, and Captain Falcon, Yoshi, Dr. Mario
Marth: Fox, Falco, (lots more i know of that, he has the best chain grab in the game)
Mewtwo:
Ness:
Peach: Fox, Falco, C. Falcon
Pichu: Fox, Falco and Captain Falcon
Pikachu: Fox, Falco and Captain Falcon
Roy:
Samus:
Sheik: Bowser, Mario, Yoshi, Dr. Mario, Ness, Sheik
Yoshi:
Young Link:
Zelda: Fox, Falco, and Falcon
Thank you Magus420 for this guide on Gannondorf and Dr. Mario!!
- '~' means it's not exact, but is pretty close. All starting %s are exact however.
- The numbers go by before the throw damage.
- Falcon, Falco, and Fox show the U-Throw range followed by the D-Throw range. Everything else is just D-Throw.
(Dr. Mario)
Bowser --------- 0~35
Yoshi ------------ 0~20 (You have to grab his eyes at the end)
DK ---------------- 8~20 (Awesome...)
Falcon ----------- 4~45, 47~130
Ganon ----------- 0~30 (Grab his right leg)
Falco ------------- 0~60, 26~200+
Fox --------------- 0~55, 48~200
Sheik ------------ 0~60 (Pivot grab as needed to get the left leg)
Link -------------- 0~30
Y Link ----------- 0~30
Pichu ------------ 0~20
Pikachu --------- 0~20
Roy -------------- 0~50
A lot of these look pretty nice on paper, but most are easily jumped out of within 15-20% of the end %s if your grab is even a little off so keep that in mind.
Pye left off a number of ones for Ganon that have a good deal more range on them than a number of the ones that are on that list for others. I don't know where the line would be drawn for being useful and not useful (I consider Marth's good even though it ends at 15% along with his other low damage ones, since it forces a DJ out of them and gets a better setup off the throw like a d-air after a few regrabs). I would think a ~30% range, which is roughly 5 regrabs, at least counts as a substantial CG so for Ganon those are:
(Gannondorf)
Bowser --------- (4) ---- 0-72
Yoshi ------------ (2) ---- 0-36 (30+ make sure you grab his eyes before he spins around)
DK ---------------- (4) ---- 21-69
Ganon ---------- (3) ---- 0-67
Falco ------------- (5) --- 12-Death (250+)
Fox --------------- (5+) - 34-Death (250)
Sheik ------------ (1) ---- 0-90 (80-90 is very tricky due to Sheik's skinny legs)
Link -------------- (3) ---- 0-74
Y Link ----------- (1) ---- 0-72 (Legs ftw)
Pichu ------------ (2) ---- 0-54 (Thank his bigass head for this one)
Pikachu --------- (1) ---- 0-37 (His tumble animation works very much in his favor to escape)
G&W ------------- (2) ---- 0-28
Roy -------------- (3) ---- 0-91 (Hooray legs!
~Thank you for any help!~
List is comeing along great! Just need more info :/
If you see anything that is wrong let me know. Also if you know any more stuff left me know :D