Celebrity Mafia: The Revenge of Elin Nordegren (GAME OVER! Did Elin get her revenge?)

[Sephinator Kuzamune]

So Cello does not have to respond to someone raising a point against him because he is not being voted for?

Kay

 

[Purple]

everyone when time is available get your reads on, in two days we ride it out.

 

[Cello_Marl]

SephKuza, why are you voting for me? Be as clear as you can.

 

[Sephinator Kuzamune]

But you are 1 shot Day cop, not a normal cop. Who the freak counter-claims that?! No-one.

When did you cop Swiss?

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Alright got a computer

So first and foremost, SephKuz, the reason why our nearly identical statements are entirely different in nature is the vote. You used that as a basis for your vote. I however, used it as a basis of pressure. I simply used it to ask why I should/shouldn't vote for Cello, wanting to see what kind of response Cello would make. If I had voted for Cello, we would be in the same boat, but I didn't. Validation=/=Pressure, that is why you're statement is about them being the same is wrong.

brb reading what I missed.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Whoa, rPSI. I think we should kill him, real talk.

I'm sahwy.
Super Bowl party was too good to pass up though.

 

[Clownbot]

Unvote

Someone talk about Clown, I need other people's opinions on him. Is he just naturally bad at mafia?

Instill your wisdom in me post-game.

Axel, I had a town read on Cello because he didn't do anything suspicious.

SephKuz, if there is a one-shot day cop in this game do you think there could be a normal cop as well?

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I would support this, he is not my first choice (well, technically he's my third) but I would rather see him go than Nabe right now. Axel, your thoughts on an rPSI lynch?

Oh, I see some reason behind this, but I'm wondering why you're turning to Axel for a response about my lynch. Is there something that makes him inherently town in your book? Is it that turning to Axel, a prominently town figured player in this game, that in supporting my lynch, something that you hopped on before him, would make you inherently more town looking?

 

[Cello_Marl]

But you are 1 shot Day cop, not a normal cop. Who the freak counter-claims that?! No-one.

There are 12 people in this game. It's unreasonable for there to be TWO Cops. It's even MORE unreasonable that I would claim Cop as scum without ANY indication of the absence of a Cop. Even if I DID try that, why wouldn't I claim FULL Cop? That way, I wouldn't have to clear somebody, and could demand protection.

When did you cop Swiss?

As soon as the game started.

 

[Purple]

but by claiming one day cop, you don't have to give reports, and you not dying would make sense considering you were worthless after that point.

 

[Sephinator Kuzamune]

You used that as a basis for your vote. I however, used it as a basis of pressure.

Voting = Pressure

Our statements were identical, why are you now defending Cello? I wanted him to answer that question, not you.

@Cello, Besides the claim bit, how you have played this game is exactly how you have played scum in past games. Specially that unvote bit. If we keep you alive, scum won't kill you or Swiss toNight as doing so will confirm one of your alignments (assuming neither of you are scum). As for the doc bit, playing probabilities, there usually are docs present in games of every size. If we were to not lynch you, who would we lynch and how would we go about confirming either of you or Swiss' alignment late game?

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I'm not in a good mood right now. I'll post an in-depth analysis later.

Axel, don't forget how Joey played in NBC.

How did Joey play in NBC?

 

[Cello_Marl]

If I survive the Day, then clearly the Town believes my claim. It wouldn't make sense for me NOT to die. And giving reports wouldn't be my priority as scum, survival would be. Besides, it's not like I couldn't WIFOM it up with my reports, an opportunity that, if I were scum, would have wrecked town's ****.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Lynch Cello.

Bull****, you're vote was to get Cello lynched. GTFO

 

[rPSIvysaur]

If I survive the Day, then clearly the Town believes my claim. It wouldn't make sense for me NOT to die. And giving reports wouldn't be my priority as scum, survival would be. Besides, it's not like I couldn't WIFOM it up with my reports, an opportunity that, if I were scum, would have wrecked town's ****.

Goddammit, why'd you have to end with a WIFOM?

 

[Sephinator Kuzamune]

Also, TBQH, I completely skipped over your crumbs post for some reason. However, my point still stands. Even if you are what you claim, there will be no way to confirm either your or Swiss' alignment late game where this info could matter most. Banking on a doc being in this game is honestly more probable the scum NKing you because of the wifom they could use fro the rest of the game.

SephKuz, if there is a one-shot day cop in this game do you think there could be a normal cop as well?

Slim to None. Probably none.

 

[Swiss]

OH MY GOD HOW ****ING ******** ARE YOU GUYS?

Shut the **** up. Cop don't CC even if you're dumb enough to think you should.

EVERYONE vote Cello we are LYNCHING HIM.

HE ****ING CLAIMED MAFIA.

I swear I go away for HALF an hour to play a match, come back and you guys are ****ting bricks.

 

[Sephinator Kuzamune]

rPSI, why did you answer Cello's question for him. Do you not realize that the vote is used as a pressure tool and as a means to get someone lynched? Why are you stuck on technicalities instead of focusing on the important subject at hand?

 

[Clownbot]

OH MY GOD HOW ****ING ******** ARE YOU GUYS?

Shut the **** up. Cop don't CC even if you're dumb enough to think you should.

EVERYONE vote Cello we are LYNCHING HIM.

HE ****ING CLAIMED MAFIA.

I swear I go away for HALF an hour to play a match, come back and you guys are ****ting bricks.

Nah, I think I'll keep my vote off of him for a little longer.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

OH MY GOD HOW ****ING ******** ARE YOU GUYS?

Shut the **** up. Cop don't CC even if you're dumb enough to think you should.

EVERYONE vote Cello we are LYNCHING HIM.

HE ****ING CLAIMED MAFIA.

I swear I go away for HALF an hour to play a match, come back and you guys are ****ting bricks.

But he's Un-CC'd cop

 

[Purple]

It's called fear swiss =/

you guys can vote and expose your massive balls, but i'm not liking it.

 

[Purple]

rPSI YOU HAVE ****ING READS TO DO

SEPH GIMME MORE INFO

HI X1-12, I MISS YOU BABY <3

 

[rPSIvysaur]

rPSI, why did you answer Cello's question for him. Do you not realize that the vote is used as a pressure tool and as a means to get someone lynched? Why are you stuck on technicalities instead of focusing on the important subject at hand?

oh, but it's important to my reads. Like how he let me answer when I buddied him, and indirectly buddied me back.

We can go ahead and lynch him.

BTW, you're the one getting stuck on technicalities, I'm the one that's looking behind the motives involved.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@Cello, Besides the claim bit, how you have played this game is exactly how you have played scum in past games. Specially that unvote bit. If we keep you alive, scum won't kill you or Swiss toNight as doing so will confirm one of your alignments (assuming neither of you are scum). As for the doc bit, playing probabilities, there usually are docs present in games of every size. If we were to not lynch you, who would we lynch and how would we go about confirming either of you or Swiss' alignment late game?

So, the UNCOUNTERCLAIMED COP and his innocent surviving because scum thinks they can stir up WIFOM is a bad thing? I don't understand how you can believe that a Doc is present in games of any size, and not Cop. If I had claimed DOCTOR wouldn't you still want to lynch me? It's because of my play after all, isn't it?

Concerning confirming MY alignment, I'll make this offer. If at any time someone else claims Cop, except for LyLo, I will admit that I am lying and am scum. Swiss should be completely obvious as Town regardless of my alignment, based on his play. Since that's how you play this game. Determining other people's alignment through their actions. If you want surety, go play Candyland.

@Swiss: SephKuza is scum, I am NOT scum. Get your **** together and vote for SephKuza.

 

[Purple]

I want more info from everyone still, guys if we're going to kill cello, then cello will DIE. But you don't need to do it now, milk information please.

 

[Swiss]

Cello is a smart ****er. All we're doing is polluting the reads we can get from this ****storm where townies will inevitably **** up.

OhmygodCelloIhateyousomuchandpleaseneverletmeinagamewithretardedplayerseveragaineventhoughImanagedtocarrylasttime

 

[rPSIvysaur]

rPSI YOU HAVE ****ING READS TO DO

SEPH GIMME MORE INFO

HI X1-12, I MISS YOU BABY <3

>implying I plan on listing out my reads.
Spoils the fun IMO

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I'm surprised J hasn't come in here and posted something dumb yet.

 

[Purple]

ebwop: all you really need to do is be like "i want so and so to die, i think so and so is town, etc. etc."

I think Cello is Town
I think Swiss is Town; interactions with cello bugs me.
I think rPSI is Town.
I think Seph can die
I think Axel is.. **** i dunno
I think Nabe is inactive, and at this point can die
I think Delvro and July are in the same situation, not taking strong pushes towards anything, however saying enough to look town, need to push into them.
I think Clownbot is not talking enough still, can die.
I think Dourin is dumb town.
I think Joey is dumb (getting smarter, but overreactive) town.

 

[Sephinator Kuzamune]

g2g to an appointment, I will respond more later.

im so ****ing mad right now

 

[Purple]

whoa.

nvm

rPSI can STILL die; way to be non-compliant at such a serious time.

 

[Swiss]

 

[rPSIvysaur]

ebwop: all you really need to do is be like "i want so and so to die, i think so and so is town, etc. etc."

I think Cello is Town
I think Swiss is Town; interactions with cello bugs me.
I think rPSI is Town.
I think Seph can die
I think Axel is.. **** i dunno
I think Nabe is inactive, and at this point can die
I think Delvro and July are in the same situation, not taking strong pushes towards anything, however saying enough to look town, need to push into them.
I think Clownbot is not talking enough still, can die.
I think Dourin is dumb town.
I think Joey is dumb (getting smarter, but overreactive) town.

Nabe can be our backup kill if town can't get Cello killed.
I think rPSI is town.
July null/scum.
Not willing to put the rest in interest of playing the game.
Can I have cookie now?

 

[Purple]

Do Swiss. =/

 

[Swiss]

Is no-one slightly suspicious a ONE SHOT day cop used his ability D1 RVS?

No?


WTF

 

[Purple]

I must say this is true Swiss.

i want those reads though.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Swiss, I'll remind you that you asked me to play with you.

Anyway, look at it this way. If I'm scum, then I can safely discount rPSI, Swiss, SephKuza, Axel, Clownbot and Gerty as Cops, based on reactions. 12 person games usually have 3 scum. That's only 3-5 people left, depending on who my scummates are (and I'm pretty sure we can agree that those 6 people are probably not my scummates); if I SOMEHOW fake claimed Cop thinking that another Cop didn't exist, then there are probably only 3 people that could be Cop, and that would have to be amongst Dourin, Delvro, Nabe, Joey and July. Dourin was at L-1 after his triple MOD votes; if he were the cop, he would have claimed then to prevent being mislynched.

If there is a "real" Cop, and thus I am scum, then they should counterclaim simply because from scum's perspective, it is extremely likely that there would only be 2 or 3 people that COULD be Cop. If they are going to die anyway, might as well make SURE that I die toDay.

But...if that doesn't happen...

THEN I'M A ****ING UNCOUNTERCLAIMED COP AND EVERY ONE OF YOU DUMB ****S THAT VOTES TO LYNCH ME AND ARE TOWN SHOULD BE SHOT.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Is no-one slightly suspicious a ONE SHOT day cop used his ability D1 RVS?

You're Swiss. I'd prefer knowing that you are on my side rather than not.

 

[Purple]

vote: cello

 

[Cello_Marl]

@GERTY: In what way does Swiss's interactions bug you?