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Call me an air vent

ndayday

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I'm writing this as an 18 year old who has recently completed high school. While I've had these thoughts for the past 6 months or so, I kind of just want to vent and write down my feelings about these last few months. Also I'm not looking for advice or responses. I just want the feeling that maybe someone will read this, and of course the nice feel of getting stuff off your chest

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At the beginning of December last year, I was still a child. That sounds strange to say, but I truly was. I didn't have a driving licence, a "good" job, and had not even applied for college yet because I didn't need to. That is something I was pretty ashamed about and it made me feel pretty inadequate for more than it should have back then. It's not like I didn't have the grades-- I was a 3.2 GPA student. That isn't exactly great, I know, but even still, friends who had worse grades than me, scored less than me on the ACT, etc. were getting into decent colleges or universities.

My parents never really asked me what I was interested in, and I still don't know what I want to do. The stupid, mandated personality tests that we took showed I may be interested in health care. I scoff at that now though, as I know I would freaking hate to be a part of that system. Anyway, one day my father asked me-- no, that's being generous, told me that I was going to have to go to community college. Money, you know. That crushed my spirits, it really did. Every time I heard my peers brag about what college they got into, I kind of just withdrew. One of the questions I dreaded the most was, "What college are you going to?"

I dreaded it for a reason. I'm not one that thinks people ask questions to make conversation. Hold on, let me build you a picture of how I think most people see me. Smart, nice, quiet and reserved. Has gotten good grades all his life and isn't troublesome. So, what do you think people expect the response to be from me for that question? Michigan State? U of M? Western Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan? Kalamazoo? Nah, it's community college. I consider myself to be pretty good at reading people's reactions, and every time I answered that question I knew they were disappointed. And it's awkward, and it hurts because you know they're wondering, "what happened?" And after you answer that question, you're asked about prom, and graduation, and what kind of party you're going to have. But really, after I answered no, it's whatever, and I'm not going to have a party, I felt people were starting to see what I am. An awkward recluse who's afraid of social functions.

So yeah, there I was. My 18th birthday was approaching soon and I insisted that a party didn't need to be held for me. My mom said ok, but I knew that's not what she had in mind. I got a night where my boss, my mother's friend, a close friend of mine, and my dad (I didn't mention my parents are divorced) came over. I could not have chosen a stranger group of people to have at a party, especially since my parents aren't on very good terms and you have to consider my mom had divulged all her quips about my dad to my boss (who is also a friend of my mother's) and my mom's friend. So yeah, I got $2000 going towards a car, more money, ate cake, and that was over.

You expect being 18 is to have people saying, "YEAH YOU CAN VOTE, YEAH you can smoke, YEAH you can legally watch pornography!" but that isn't how it goes down here. It's strange but my 11 year old brother constantly degrades me. I kind of accept it now and have come to the conclusion that no matter what I do, I will always be a failure to him, but whatever (side note: this all sounds terribly depressing and as if I'm hopeless, and maybe I am, but remember I'm just venting a lot). His usual line is, "you don't have any friends, you're fat, you don't have a car, get a real job, you don't even have your licence, ANDDDDD you're a ******." (note: I am or was all of those except the censored word which rhymes with maggot). And my mother too, with the usual responsibility line, which has had new life breathed into it ever since I turned 18.


So, I graduate. Graduation is a lot like my 18th birthday only reversed, with my parent's relatives outnumbering her. Obligatory *****ing for 2 days afterwards by my mother.

And then my car. I actually got it like 3 weeks ago. Also forgot to mention the part where I got my licence but I can't be bothered to go back and fit it in.

So we're left here. It's mid-July, my friend (I really do only have one good, good friend) is going off to college in a little more than a month, and I'm stuck on my own, really. I know I will get a better job, but my main concern is school. I have more or less accepted my fate of community college. Will I see people I used to know? I hope not. I just know that I can only look forward now...even though I can turn my head side-to-side and I sure as hell can turn around and look back if I want.
 

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Don't take community college so hard. I know how people respond to community college, because I went to one as well. After I finished though, I transferred into one of the best liberal arts colleges in the country.

Community college saved me tons of money (It was only $1600 for four classes, as opposed to $2500 for one class at my current school), it offered classes that were flexible and could be accommodated into my work schedule (I even took Saturday and Sunday classes), and after going to a large public university, a community college and a small private college, I can tell you from experience it's all the same damn thing. The only difference is the names on the buildings you take your classes in.
 

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Don't buy into that stupid, "you have to go to a big school" nonsense. The first two years will be classes unrelated to your major which are the same thing at every college. Your friends at the "big schools" are paying 4x as much for English 101.
 

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Dude, you should feel good. I am just about everything you are that you feel ashamed about, and on top of that, I'm not going to college. I did go to community college for a semester, only taking two classes, and immediately stopped because I just couldn't do it. And I didn't even decide to go until after I graduated. So when teachers asked me what I planned to do, I was like, "I don't know," or "I'm probably not going to college," so it was a lot more awkward.

And don't worry about your brother, the generations are getting more and more degenerate as they go down. Experience with younger people has taught me nothing but that.
 
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I think you can be social and not have any friends. I have done that my whole life. I found people around me in my classes to talk to daily and stuff on certain topics, but once that was over with, I never had anything in common with them other than we were in the same room. I'm in archery, and I manage to find stuff to talk about and have fun with in the group, but I wouldn't call any of them my friends. Once Archery is over with, I never contacted them, and they never contacted me.

Same thing with smash. There are people I play, talk with, and have fun being around, but as soon as smash is over with I have nothing in common with anyone. I don't understand anyone at all. Everyone goes back to being complete strangers to me.

As far as college, you should really treat it as a great opportunity that can lead into a lot of things instead of trying to get a degree. Explore around a lot where you have freedom in classes and see what you really do not want to pursue and what feels like you could pursue. Maybe you get the chance to actually help with research or a job of some kind through the college. The experience and networking with people who you worked with is the more important thing I have been hearing about. Colleges offer you chances you might not hear about or get if you didn't go.
 

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Don't buy into that stupid, "you have to go to a big school" nonsense. The first two years will be classes unrelated to your major which are the same thing at every college. Your friends at the "big schools" are paying 4x as much for English 101.
This. Just knock out your basic classes and electives. If you do get into a university, make sure that the classes you took at the community college fit with the curriculum of the university.

I honestly wouldn't worry about being awkward or a recluse. For a good portion of my time in high school, I've been told that being social will go a long way in opening opportunities for yourself. I wasn't so social in high school, so I didn't truly understand why that advice was so important. However, once I hit college, I realized how important it was to actually talk to people. As a result, I was able to get into more social groups and have more to talk and do with people that share a common interest.
 

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Ndayday, I don't know how your current relationship properly is with your brother, but i don't think it's good if any person is trying to put another person down. Even if he's just jesting, he's definitely old enough now to know that people sometimes just don't need it.

I hope I don't ruin any positive relationship you DO have with your brother but if it's seriously bothering you I suggest telling him so. I dunno this is just coming from a young teen who absolutely idolizes his older brother. We're very much in sync and we have deep and meaningful conversations together. Perhaps try sitting him down on his or your bed one time and just discussing things with him.

As for your other stuff, I'm australian and have no idea what community college is BUT if you're going to any education system at all then you are doing better than those that just do nothing with their lives.

And about being a social recluse, i'll be honest, i'm a bit different to most people my age. The important parts aren't all that, though. It's those times when you're both being serious on a one to one basis. As long as you state your beliefs and give a solid basis (even "I don't know why" is solid if you truly don't know about something), that's something any person should be able to understand. If they can't, then it's not your fault and there are many other people out there who will be glad to discuss philosophy and life with you. Or games, or TV, or music or just about anything. :)

Anyway, I hope any of that helps. If you feel it doesn't apply to you, then that's ok too. :)

I have to say though, I disagree with you holder. I love the younger generation, although true enough it is a bit awkward when they don't want to talk at all. But the likely-hood is i'm much younger than you. I didn't turn out THAT bad did I? >.>
 
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Ndayday, you and I are pretty much on the same boat, except for the fact that it looks like you turned out better than I did.

:3
 

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I'm writing this as an 18 year old who has recently completed high school.
Hey, me too, although I'm not 18 yet. Only 15 days left.


At the beginning of December last year, I was still a child. That sounds strange to say, but I truly was. I didn't have a driving licence, a "good" job, and had not even applied for college yet because I didn't need to. That is something I was pretty ashamed about and it made me feel pretty inadequate for more than it should have back then.
I was all of these things too starting my senior year. I don't think they're really things to feel too bad about. Maybe not applying for college that late in the ball game, but hey, it takes a while to decide what you want to do. And at least you do have a plan now.

My parents never really asked me what I was interested in, and I still don't know what I want to do. The stupid, mandated personality tests that we took showed I may be interested in health care. I scoff at that now though, as I know I would freaking hate to be a part of that system.
You don't have to be set just yet.


Anyway, one day my father asked me-- no, that's being generous, told me that I was going to have to go to community college. Money, you know. That crushed my spirits, it really did. Every time I heard my peers brag about what college they got into, I kind of just withdrew. One of the questions I dreaded the most was, "What college are you going to?"
There's nothing wrong with community college. It's still a lot better than what a lot of people have to look forward to. As others have said, you can still get a solid education. At least you're not headed to the streets or something.

So, what do you think people expect the response to be from me for that question? Michigan State? U of M? Western Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan? Kalamazoo? Nah, it's community college. I consider myself to be pretty good at reading people's reactions, and every time I answered that question I knew they were disappointed. And it's awkward, and it hurts because you know they're wondering, "what happened?"
If they're your friends, they should understand and shouldn't look at you any differently really.


And after you answer that question, you're asked about prom, and graduation, and what kind of party you're going to have. But really, after I answered no, it's whatever, and I'm not going to have a party, I felt people were starting to see what I am. An awkward recluse who's afraid of social functions.
I didn't want to have a party either >_>. I got forced to, but I did get some money out of it, so I guess it was alright. My mom told me that you don't want to head down the recluse road. Can you work on changing this?

So yeah, there I was. My 18th birthday was approaching soon and I insisted that a party didn't need to be held for me. My mom said ok, but I knew that's not what she had in mind. I got a night where my boss, my mother's friend, a close friend of mine, and my dad (I didn't mention my parents are divorced) came over. I could not have chosen a stranger group of people to have at a party, especially since my parents aren't on very good terms and you have to consider my mom had divulged all her quips about my dad to my boss (who is also a friend of my mother's) and my mom's friend. So yeah, I got $2000 going towards a car, more money, ate cake, and that was over.
See? You got something out of the party, so it wasn't all bad.

You expect being 18 is to have people saying, "YEAH YOU CAN VOTE, YEAH you can smoke, YEAH you can legally watch pornography!" but that isn't how it goes down here.
Hmm, I thought it was more like "you're getting closer to being on your own, so get serious".


It's strange but my 11 year old brother constantly degrades me. I kind of accept it now and have come to the conclusion that no matter what I do, I will always be a failure to him, but whatever
That doesn't sound like a brother to me. Maybe physically, but not in the entire meaning of the word. You bro should support you, and I wouldn't pay him any mind if he does this.


(side note: this all sounds terribly depressing and as if I'm hopeless, and maybe I am, but remember I'm just venting a lot).
You're not. You could be MUCH worse off than you think you are now.


His usual line is, "you don't have any friends, you're fat, you don't have a car, get a real job, you don't even have your licence, ANDDDDD you're a ******." (note: I am or was all of those except the censored word which rhymes with maggot). And my mother too, with the usual responsibility line, which has had new life breathed into it ever since I turned 18.
Ok...screw your brother. If you think you're all of these things though, what's stopping you from trying to change them. I know some are more difficult than others, but the friends and weight are two things you can start towards fixing immediately.

He's taunting (taunted) you about a car and license? I was one of the only people in my class to not drive until the absolute beginning of senior year. Big deal.

Real job? At least you have a job. I still can't find one.

The responsibility line is annoying, but it is ultimately true. We're going to have to do things for ourselves.


So we're left here. It's mid-July, my friend (I really do only have one good, good friend) is going off to college in a little more than a month, and I'm stuck on my own, really. I know I will get a better job, but my main concern is school. I have more or less accepted my fate of community college. Will I see people I used to know? I hope not. I just know that I can only look forward now...even though I can turn my head side-to-side and I sure as hell can turn around and look back if I want.
Again, I say you're much better off than you could be right now. Try to look at the positives.

I felt like I said "I" a lot, but I'm somewhat doing what you're doing right now, so it related to me a lot.
 

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Dude, you should feel good. I am just about everything you are that you feel ashamed about, and on top of that, I'm not going to college. I did go to community college for a semester, only taking two classes, and immediately stopped because I just couldn't do it. And I didn't even decide to go until after I graduated. So when teachers asked me what I planned to do, I was like, "I don't know," or "I'm probably not going to college," so it was a lot more awkward.

And don't worry about your brother, the generations are getting more and more degenerate as they go down. Experience with younger people has taught me nothing but that.
*Continues to beat my face against the keyboard in self-hatred*

I. WISH. I. WAS. BORN. EARLIER! :mad:
 

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My parents never really asked me what I was interested in, and I still don't know what I want to do. The stupid, mandated personality tests that we took showed I may be interested in health care. I scoff at that now though, as I know I would freaking hate to be a part of that system. Anyway, one day my father asked me-- no, that's being generous, told me that I was going to have to go to community college. Money, you know. That crushed my spirits, it really did. Every time I heard my peers brag about what college they got into, I kind of just withdrew. One of the questions I dreaded the most was, "What college are you going to?"

I dreaded it for a reason. I'm not one that thinks people ask questions to make conversation. Hold on, let me build you a picture of how I think most people see me. Smart, nice, quiet and reserved. Has gotten good grades all his life and isn't troublesome. So, what do you think people expect the response to be from me for that question? Michigan State? U of M? Western Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan? Kalamazoo? Nah, it's community college. I consider myself to be pretty good at reading people's reactions, and every time I answered that question I knew they were disappointed. And it's awkward, and it hurts because you know they're wondering, "what happened?" And after you answer that question, you're asked about prom, and graduation, and what kind of party you're going to have. But really, after I answered no, it's whatever, and I'm not going to have a party, I felt people were starting to see what I am. An awkward recluse who's afraid of social functions.
Man, I really connected with these two paragraphs Ndayday. I was in the exact same boat but in a more weird degree. I am also going to community college due to forces against my own will but I have to agree with what the others have said, you will save a lot of money to just take the other types of classes other people will be taking in those big level universities. The thing is, I seriously know your pain in terms of people asking "where you go to college?" and feeling a bit dejected in saying that I am going to community college. The girls would be like "Oh yeah, I'm just going to Yale/Harvard/Brown/Duke/Drexel....so where are you going?" and the looks and tone of voices afterwards are just killer.

However, what I suggest, which is also advice I am trying to take for myself, is to live up community college as much as you can. Make it your own and just have fun while also trying to figure out what you want to do in life.

I'm not 18 yet (won't be for like 4 more months), but I get the college pains you are feeling.
 

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My community college experience was infinitely better socially than my current experience at a four year school.
 
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