COMPLETELY VANILLA Mafia | Game Over

[UtopianPoyzin]

Why did you move from Somi to FrozenFlame here?

I... don’t think I was ever on Somi today?

 

[ranmaru]

Day 1.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Statistically speaking, Frozen is the most likely to be town when weighing into all possible scumteams. Boom isn’t aligned with you or Frozen, and Somi already made is unalignment with you clear with leaving a vote on you at the end of D2.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Day 1.

Seriously? Lmao, it was due to me thinking they were lacking town info when I was clearly wrong and it was just a misunderstanding. I made that vocal and I moved on from them pretttttty early on

 

[ranmaru]

Can you quote it?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

If you’re wondering what the “bluff” was, it was that everybody was on the same page about a mass claim except for them. I wanted to see whether Somi genuinely had town information or if they were just faking it to get by. If they were scum, they wouldn’t have known the format of the town role PMs, which is what I was trying to deduce from Somi. However, that particular mechanism can no longer be used after it was outed and nobody played along with it, but I can’t fault anybody in particular. :/

This is the closest one talking about my insistence on somi being a bluff

 

[ranmaru]

That doesn't explain why you voted FrozenFlame on Day 1.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

In particular, “if they were scum, they wouldn’t have known the format of the town role pms”. This is a fallacious statement, as there are fakeclaims that scum can utilize.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

That doesn't explain why you voted FrozenFlame on Day 1.

It explains why I laid off of somi and looked for a different avenue.

 

[ranmaru]

Why specifically FrozenFlame at that time?

 

[BoomFrog]

Lol, alright. I thought I was going to have to drop my reads before you voted UP. As a general advice since you town read me I think you should have consulted with me on Ran or Frozen as first choice, but fortunately I after with you.

 

[BoomFrog]

More detailed posts after I finish breakfast.

 

[BoomFrog]

somitomi ideally you could pop in and literally just say "hi" to prove to UP that we are not buddies.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Boom, who are you planning to vote

As a general advice since you town read me I think you should have consulted with me on Ran or Frozen as first choice

I wanted to, that’s why I made that first post I quoted. On the other hand, I just wanted to throw the vote out there and get it over with.

 

[BoomFrog]

Totally. I get it. You did good kid.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Votecount 3-5

[1] #HBC FrozeηFlame: UtopianPoyzin

[4] Not Voting: somitomi, #HBC FrozeηFlame, BoomFrog, Ranmaru

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to eliminate.

Day 3 Deadline is at 11 PM UTC on Monday August 24th; less than 7 hours remain

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Okay so now I put myself in a thunderdome with one of the Decisive Games legends. Y’all better get popcorn for this party, I’m not going to lose this after my “holier-than-thou” complex in all of D1 and D2

 

[ranmaru]

UP, can you answer my question?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

UP, can you answer my question?

Oh yeah I got distracted lol. I didn’t really think it was that good of a question to begin with given the fact that I voted for Frozen in lylo, but I’ll satisfy

 

[BoomFrog]

Okay so now I put myself in a thunderdome with one of the Decisive Games legends. Y’all better get popcorn for this party, I’m not going to lose this after my “holier-than-thou” complex in all of D1 and D2

You've already won, unless Somi gets cold feet and panics.

 

[ranmaru]

I am not asking about your lylo vote.

 

[ranmaru]

You voted FrozenFlame on Day 1. Why did you vote him then and there?

 

[ranmaru]

##Vote: #HBC | FrozenFlame

 

[ranmaru]

That was on Page 6.

 

[ranmaru]

More detailed posts after I finish breakfast.

Looking forward to your reads list you promised.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

literally flipping from being antagonistic toward xiivis slot to attempted pocketing and more gross LAMIST

this is totally normal townie play right? Just saying "im not doing that" without even attempting to provide a reason? what I still can't get over his how you don't realize how little the claim order is going to matter lmao

I'm so town and its so obvious how could any slot POSSIBLY attack me?! The audacity! The grime! LAMIST ad nauseum!

grasping the setup
thinking claimorder will matter

pick one

that was an amazingly fast backpedal

"lol im not backpedaling, I was just pretending to care about claim order the whole time! I totally don't care at all!"

"but actually tho I care"

:thinkingemoji:

I’m going to sleep on a FrozenFlame/Xivii scumteam and do some carnival tricks in my sleep.

A lot of D1 I spent trying to get at people’s goats, and it worked on Frozen to a surprisingly successful degree. Effectively, they were scumreading me over an assortment of cheap shots, assumed malicious intent over extremely petty things such as “not wanting to be the second person to claim” and me telling that they are reading wayyy to far into WIFOM as attempted pocketing, which makes zero sense in the context of the original post but Frozen’s arguments were completely devoid of context so it was a necessary evil for them.

 

[ranmaru]

You voted FrozenFlame before his posts voting you.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

That empty vote for Frozen on page 6 was because I was starting to get skeptical of that slot so I was trying to bait a reaction. It did reflect my current position at the time, but it was more of an “act now, analyze later” ordeal.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Ran, who do you think is more sus. Me or Frozen?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Frozen was very angery so maybe that speaks to something deep inside his soul. Good to note for later, could be genuine annoyance from somebody trying to solve the game or general annoyance that I was being a cocky *****. I don’t have any clues on which is the right answer, but I know it’s easier for scum to blend in if they experience the emotions that they project, so I’d say it probably leans more toward the latter but the people who solve the game after I end up dying can use these interactions to their fullest potential.

This still holds true.

 

[ranmaru]

You. Why did you thunder dome Frozen instead of me?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

You. Why did you thunder dome Frozen instead of me?

Doesn’t matter. Next question. Do you think me and Frozen could be scum together?

 

[ranmaru]

Answer the question.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Answer the question.

No, you answer the question.

 

[ranmaru]

I asked first.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Why did you thunder dome Frozen instead of me?

Statistically speaking, Frozen is the most likely to be scum when weighing into all possible scumteams. Boom isn’t aligned with you or Frozen, and Somi already made is unalignment with you clear with leaving a vote on you at the end of D2.

I made a typo, that was obviously in reference to FF being most likely scum out of all possible scumteams, not town. My bad, apologies.

Your turn. Do you think the scumteam could be me and Frozen?

 

[ranmaru]

I think not. [Boom, UP]

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I think not. [Boom, UP]

Thank you for the [Boom, UP] bit. I knew you said you townread FF but I wanted to hear you say it again. Now that we’re in lylo, people cannot rescind their vote. Frozen isn’t self voting, you’re not voting hammering Frozen, and Boom isn’t hammering Frozen either. That means that yes, either I found scum, or I am scum.

My question to you is this. If there’s only one scum between me and Frozen, and Frozen is town to you, why aren’t you voting me now?

 

[ranmaru]

Boom
Somi
Xivii
Frozen

(nice rainbow)

Like tbh it’s really, really obvious with only four people left.

When did Frozen get to be on the bottom of your reads list? If this is the case, why did you begin Day 3 with this quote:

When did Froze get to the bottom here? If this was the case, why did you make th

Okay spectators, so what’s going to happen is Im going to vote Xivii. If I vote Xivii and they aren’t instantly hammered, then that means that either:

A) Xivii is scum
B) I am scum

As for who Xivii’s mate is I haven’t yet figured it out. I already have the whole game mapped out if I’m right and turns out it comes solely down to me. First off we’re yeeting Xivii because they’re scum and a bunch of dead people agree. Then Somi dies and we can figure out who it is between FF and BoomFrog. I’m not going to elaborate either way right now because A) I get killed for being right and B) It could be influenced by what happens today. Spoiler alert, BoomFrog said some pretty grimy things yesterday and Xivii has been doing some predictable distancing so I think that’s where we go.

But yeah, the only options today are me and Xivii because I’m going to be dumb as usually and take a risk that could easily be wrong and cost us the game. But I do **** like that all the time and it’s going to be very hard to convince me not to be the first to vote.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

To subvert expectations. Make you frantic. I decided that voting Frozen would’ve been the outcome that was most likely to hit scum, even if I think your scum had ACTED the scummiest. I also wanted to weigh in the possibility that if the scumteam was Frozen/Somi, the game would end and town would lose. I decided that I wasn’t a fan of that option, so I went with the safer alternative rather than my most powerful gut instinct. I adjusted my readslist to account for that, I switched Xivii and FF when I decided to vote for FF