bthrow->usmash

[Fortress | Sveet]

m2k vs kels at SMYM, there was one part on corneria where m2k did bthrow to usmash on kels so i decided to do some tests.

around 100-110% you can start bthrow->usmash on spacies as long as they DI towards you. i've gotten this to work against characters that float more, as long as they don't DI away and starting at lower percents (~60-70% for marth)

obviously it could be hard to get them to DI towards you, but it can be done with proper tricks (like if they are DIing fthrows away at the edge, bthrow and usmash to kill). also im not certain if the hitstun lasts until the ground, but this still might be something good to know.

 

[Strong Badam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LKVECJpqFM
1:30
you can also see him techchase into downsmash from a bthrow, like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMFp9r9n8iQ
2:44
he also tries to bthrow upsmash but fail at around 2:00

 

[RaynEX]

edit: I'm so tired I posted in the wrong thread. GGs

 

[unknown522]

m2k vs kels at SMYM, there was one part on corneria where m2k did bthrow to usmash on kels so i decided to do some tests.

around 100-110% you can start bthrow->usmash on spacies as long as they DI towards you. i've gotten this to work against characters that float more, as long as they don't DI away and starting at lower percents (~60-70% for marth)

obviously it could be hard to get them to DI towards you, but it can be done with proper tricks (like if they are DIing fthrows away at the edge, bthrow and usmash to kill). also im not certain if the hitstun lasts until the ground, but this still might be something good to know.

so useless.

 

[DrewB008]

its good on corneria

everyone will always DI toward the wall so they can tech off it and hopefully avoid any followup, this allows you to kill them for doing it

only good by walls is the moral of the story, but really pretty good if you do find yourself by a wall

 

[unknown522]

good point

 

[balladechina212]

Do you have to run into an usmash or do you not have to move?

 

[DrewB008]

you gotta run

 

[Strong Badam]

hi big d.

 

[BrianTheLion]

its like cg back throws with falco

 

[Phoenix~Lament]

Useful on pokemon stadium when it's in fire-mode.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

i think using it as a move to tech chase with at mid-high percent is a good option by itself. ~120 where you can uthrow uair (fox/falco/falcon), but before that no other grab really has a chance to combo (come on guys, dthrow is TERRIBLE)

 

[BigD!!!]

you can uthrow to almost anything you want at almost any % against fastfallers

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

you can uthrow to almost anything you want at almost any % against fastfallers

yea but it doesnt kill unless they DI wrong

 

[Strong Badam]

yeah, and neither does bthrow upsmash...
and uthrow is really really good for comboing o_O

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

:D point taken. i still like it caught nobody expects it lol

 

[ChivalRuse]

This is only nice to know because occasionally I mess up an uthrow and instead bthrow.

 

[TresChikon]

mess up an uthrow

Phew, I thought I was the only one.

 

[RaynEX]

Happens to me too. Though when I bthrow, my opponent usually misses the tech. If I toss them near an edge and this happens, I just run straight up to them and dash cancel a quick dsmash.

 

[TresChikon]

Sometimes it confuses them when I accidentally F-throw, so I just go for a CG and try again.

Though I have been known to screw up the throw a second time, but by then, I get grabbed.