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Bthrow to Fthrow?
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Levitas
the moon
welcome to smashboards ^_^
I find that my opponents DI to get away from me at low percents, but if you can get it to work, that's great. the nice thing about that is you'll almost certainly hit your opponent 10 times between the bthrow and when you want to kill, so it won't be decayed when you do want to use it for a KO.
I find that my opponents DI to get away from me at low percents, but if you can get it to work, that's great. the nice thing about that is you'll almost certainly hit your opponent 10 times between the bthrow and when you want to kill, so it won't be decayed when you do want to use it for a KO.
PKNintendo
Smash Master
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Really now, sounds like something I'd like to test out.
FireKirby7
Smash Lord
I just tried it, it kinda works, but your opponent has a easy time escaping.
Canvasofgrey
Smash Ace
The window of escape is rather large for it to be a reliable thing to do. Pending on the opponent, it's easier or harder. I think the window of opportunity is a bit too large for me to use reliably, though it's interesting to set up something like that just to mess with their minds.
xoxokev
Smash Lord
I usually use a bthrow @ low % to try setting up an early spike
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Well, the decay will only matter if you havent hit with another 9 moves before you try to KO them Shaky. Certainly you'll hit them at least 9 times before they reach a reasonable KO percent for bthrow (120ish) meaning the bthrow will be just as fresh as you started.
Brinzy
Godfather of the Crimean Mafia
I'd rather f-throw only, but this was interesting nonetheless.
Levitas
the moon
As long as you don't do it when it would be a bad idea, it's not a bad idea.
thesage
Smash Hero
I only attempt b-throw kills at 120-ish (some character I go for earlier but this is the number I generally go for). I like using u-throw at low percents to set up pkt juggling.
It works, but it's situational most of the time. I remember doing this before. I do believe you've done this to me before, too.I usually use a bthrow @ low % to try setting up an early spike
Wait a minute, I thought you only had to hit them ONCE before you use another B-Throw.
False. You Ness mains seem to rely on that b-throw waaay too much. Well most of you anyway.
FireKirby7
Smash Lord
I usually kill with Nair. x_x
The ending lag for bthrow is too much for a combo...
The ending lag for bthrow is too much for a combo...
PMKNG
Smash Ace
Idk about using other throws, but I do occasionally bthrow early on to set up some bairs or nairs if possible. depends if the opponent di's correctly or not, since they may be expecting the fthrow or dthrow.
Canvasofgrey
Smash Ace
At low percents, I actually prefer to Uthrow then do an Pkbomb release. Opponents seem to fall for that all the time.
Brinzy
Godfather of the Crimean Mafia
I've strung attacks out of Ness's throws, but I do not believe I have ever made a real combo out of them.
I don't really use b-throw that much anyway. It's not getting used until about 10% later than most people use it (so about 130% for someone like... say, Wolf, 145% for Ike, etc), which amounts to an aerial or just pummeling (which is also why I pummel a lot, and anyone who has played any of my characters knows this). I do this because I want to make sure I can get it in one throw.
I also do this because one syndrome that people tend to get when fighting Ness is an automatic death at a certain %, which I don't always go for the b-throw when the time comes up because Ness players tend to want to grab a ton more and end up not getting it for a long time, if at all, and players tend to expect a grab when I just kill with something else.
B-throw is a reliable killing move, but if you start to rely on it to cap off stocks (while not being exceptional at grabbing an opponent), you're probably not going to get the throw very often.
I don't really use b-throw that much anyway. It's not getting used until about 10% later than most people use it (so about 130% for someone like... say, Wolf, 145% for Ike, etc), which amounts to an aerial or just pummeling (which is also why I pummel a lot, and anyone who has played any of my characters knows this). I do this because I want to make sure I can get it in one throw.
I also do this because one syndrome that people tend to get when fighting Ness is an automatic death at a certain %, which I don't always go for the b-throw when the time comes up because Ness players tend to want to grab a ton more and end up not getting it for a long time, if at all, and players tend to expect a grab when I just kill with something else.
B-throw is a reliable killing move, but if you start to rely on it to cap off stocks (while not being exceptional at grabbing an opponent), you're probably not going to get the throw very often.
Dajayman
Banned via Administration
Many of my friends used to believe bthrow was Ness's only reliable way to get kills. I've shown them otherwise. I get alot of my kills with bair, bat, uair, and sometimes nair. I only go for the bthrow kill if I get the chance.
PMKNG
Smash Ace
If I happen to grab them I use it, otherwise I usually kill with some sort of gimp, nair or uair. moderately bair, and hardly ever fsmash. (darn tippers still not ko'ing certain opponents) >:[
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Bair, uair, dair (both sourspotted and sweetened) are very good KOs. If you're a PKT artist, then you have PKT2 also.
Shaky
Smash Ace
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*cough* PKT artist *cough*
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Shaky is the Ness Da Vinci
False, I use b-throw sparingly and only for KOs. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
PK Starstorm
Smash Journeyman
I use the b-throw for Ko's only too, but it's just not as fulfilling to kill with it. it's great for a revenge ko if your opponent killed you while they were at a high percent, but otherwise i'd rather pilar spike, fire bat, headbut, nair, or bair them
No love for PKT2?
Yeah, revenge KOs are great. Those 2 seconds of invincibility are all you need.
I'm not sure why people never use fire B-throw.
FireKirby7
Smash Lord
PK Fire is easy to escape at high %s.No love for PKT2?
Yeah, revenge KOs are great. Those 2 seconds of invincibility are all you need.
I'm not sure why people never use fire B-throw.
I can never revenge KO someone. They are always too far away from me or they just roll roll roll 'til I'm vulnerable.
Wow, I didn't even think of that
I've been playing Ness for a while, but not a single thing I've said or asked in this topic was intelligent. As stupid as I must sound, I promise IRL I'm not an idiot.
Mostly.
Lizard
Smash Ace
Good to try out. Bthrow is not the only way to kill, and it should be powerfull enough to kills by the time it's needed.