Breaking the Ice - Ice Climbers DLC Discussion Thread - Under New Ownership!

[Sm4sher69]

The reason Mewtwo came first is because he is being built from the ground up the Others ()
Can be ported :')

Plus the fact that Ice Climbers were already made on the wii u version.

 

[CardStealer1]

The reason Mewtwo came first is because he is being built from the ground up the Others ()
Can be ported :')

Didn't they recreate every character from scratch?

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Didn't they recreate every character from scratch?

They ported most of the characters over and gave them a few touch ups. but Melees date is to old to port from so Mewtwo is being built from the ground back up

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I can't be the only one that misses this. God does it hurt to loose an entire franchise :'(

 

[Twin Shot]

I don't understand why the IceClimbers didn't work, yet Rosalina and Luma did.

They could just make the Climbers Function somewhat like those two. Heres to hoping they make their comeback via DLC!

 

[fogbadge]

I don't understand why the IceClimbers didn't work, yet Rosalina and Luma did.

They could just make the Climbers Function somewhat like those two. Heres to hoping they make their comeback via DLC!

well its because nana would be more complex to process than the lumas, nana had a full fledged move set but the lumas only did so much

 

[DoodleDuck97]

well its because nana would be more complex to process than the lumas, nana had a full fledged move set but the lumas only did so much

Plus because of that Luma respawns, Nana Never respawned unless you died too.
Nana and Popo were inseparable.

If Nana was going to die I would do my damndest to save her.
Ice climbers are stronger together.
That's why Sopo is not a thing.

A true ****** Lover never gives up no matter what that silly portable has to say.
PoNa For Life
I need these 5 in a game together.

 

[ROBnWatch]

Plus because of that Luma respawns, Nana Never respawned unless you died too.
Nana and Popo were inseparable.

If Nana was going to die I would do my damndest to save her.
Ice climbers are stronger together.
That's why Sopo is not a thing.

A true ****** Lover never gives up no matter what that silly portable has to say.
PoNa For Life
I need these 5 in a game together.

I've seen this too. And...it makes complete sense. Completely understandable why Popo did that. Hope to see these two back in as DLC or Wii U Exclusive/3DS DLC (I'll refer to that as WUE/3DLC from now on).

 

[the101]

Nothing would make me happier than to see these two given additional priority so that they can return as DLC. While I'm not positive this will happen, since Sakurai has made it seem like they were just scrapped altogether, I hope they'll be addressed again. This would have excited me more than Mewtwo, honestly, and that's saying something. I was always routing for the Genetic Pokémon's return. I didn't think I had to rout for the Ice Climbers because I assumed they would return...

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Nothing would make me happier than to see these two given additional priority so that they can return as DLC. While I'm not positive this will happen, since Sakurai has made it seem like they were just scrapped altogether, I hope they'll be addressed again. This would have excited me more than Mewtwo, honestly, and that's saying something. I was always routing for the Genetic Pokémon's return. I didn't think I had to rout for the Ice Climbers because I assumed they would return...

I don't Know why but I seriously think Ice climber and Lucas are locked for Wii U.
I mean wouldn't this be a great unlock List ??
Because all we have on Wii U is 8...... EIGHT!

 

[SmashBear]

I don't understand why the IceClimbers didn't work, yet Rosalina and Luma did.

They could just make the Climbers Function somewhat like those two. Here's to hoping they make their comeback via DLC!

The reason towards the Rosalina & Luma working is that one character is controlling the other its not like Ice Climbers where you have Nana being a AI.So Luma doesn't have a AI
But i do hope they come back
R.I.P Ice Climbers hope you come back as dlc

 

[SmashBear]

I can't be the only one that misses this. God does it hurt to loose an entire franchise :'(

I do miss that theme it was my favorite victory theme in brawl its sad imagining we won't be doing chaingrabs or the wobble combo anymore.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I do miss that theme it was my favorite victory theme in brawl its sad imagining we won't be doing chaingrabs or the wobble combo anymore.

Out of all the Tourney players I like Neon and Wobbles the best they play as my mains & It's going to be hard to let go if Mewtwo is the only veteran DLC But by god will I keep believing :')
It's not over till it's Ogre

I have been waiting to use that Gif for a very long time XD
But seriously I will support Ice Climber and Lucas till the day I die :')

 

[the101]

I don't Know why but I seriously think Ice climber and Lucas are locked for Wii U.
I mean wouldn't this be a great unlock List ??
Because all we have on Wii U is 8...... EIGHT!

I think it's a bit unreasonable to think that there are exclusive characters on the Wii U version. Sakurai has made it very clear that characters will not be console exclusive. Sure, he enjoys trolling. It's what keeps him young. But he's never misleading. Think about how quickly Meta Knight and Zero Suit Samus were confirmed after being referenced. Think of how he implied Palutena would be playable and that Ridley would appear on Pyrosphere. He'll troll, but he'll still remain true to his word. However, I do agree that just having eight unlockable characters is irrititating to the point that I hope there are others. I don't think it's too impossible that there may be characters you can only unlock on the Wii U version and then send to the 3DS version, but I wouldn't be surprised if there really are just those eight.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I think it's a bit unreasonable to think that there are exclusive characters on the Wii U version. Sakurai has made it very clear that characters will not be console exclusive. Sure, he enjoys trolling. It's what keeps him young. But he's never misleading. Think about how quickly Meta Knight and Zero Suit Samus were confirmed after being referenced. Think of how he implied Palutena would be playable and that Ridley would appear on Pyrosphere. He'll troll, but he'll still remain true to his word. However, I do agree that just having eight unlockable characters is irrititating to the point that I hope there are others. I don't think it's too impossible that there may be characters you can only unlock on the Wii U version and then send to the 3DS version, but I wouldn't be surprised if there really are just those eight.

I still believe on the Lock On games affect I mean how hard can it Be to port the guys over ?
Fair enough with Mewtwo being built from scratch and all :')

 

[The Light Music Club]

So it's time to join in and climb one last mountain together as Ice Climber fans. Let's join our Arctic Amigos, our Blizzard-bound Buddies, our Frozen friends...and bring them home once again. Smash is all they have, after all. Let's not let them lose that.

Not going to lie, but this gave me major chills via feels.

I've said it multiple times, but I would have taken these guys over a 3DS version. I would have taken them over multiple characters that were added that weren't in Brawl. (Pretty much every Newcomer excluding Palutena, Lucina, and Robin COMBINED). I flipped when I saw Mewtwo, and now have faith that if we do get anyone else via DLC it will be the Ice Climbers. And hopefully, Wolf.

I was -11 years old (11 years before I was born) when their game first came out, but I love Ice Climber, and the fact that such a great series lacks representation while the likes of Rosalina and Luma, Greninja, Miis, and WFT get in, in my opinion is despicable.

 

[Roy-Kun]

If we're getting any more DLC for Smash, I insist that Ice Climbers must become a priority. They have a loyal following from a lot of Smash fans, and also from the NES era players who are still around. Even if they're exclusive to the Wii U, it's not fair that we have lost them because of the Vanilla 3DS' limitations.

I have a bad feeling regarding those limitations though, if Sakurai were to bring them back, I kind of worry how the fans would react if they became available only for players with the New 3DS. Unless they think of a way of doing a change that doesn't require much processing power, and still can feel similar to their core gameplay.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

If we're getting any more DLC for Smash, I insist that Ice Climbers must become a priority. They have a loyal following from a lot of Smash fans, and also from the NES era players who are still around. Even if they're exclusive to the Wii U, it's not fair that we have lost them because of the Vanilla 3DS' limitations.

I have a bad feeling regarding those limitations though, if Sakurai were to bring them back, I kind of worry how the fans would react if they became available only for players with the New 3DS. Unless they think of a way of doing a change that doesn't require much processing power, and still can feel similar to their core gameplay.

I reckon if the "new" 3ds sells well over here and in America and the if the ice Climbers can work.
I do think Sakurai will just say yeah here's the long awaited Ice climbers maybe a tie in with or
Or who knows maybe all 3 <3

 

[Roy-Kun]

I reckon if the "new" 3ds sells well over here and in America and the if the ice Climbers can work.
I do think Sakurai will just say yeah here's the long awaited Ice climbers maybe a tie in with or
Or who knows maybe all 3 <3

I don't think a single character alone will drive sells. I don't mean there aren't people willing to do it, but for that to work, first the New 3DS would have to sell. And it may, given how people have reacted to it. But time will tell.

Then again, this isn't a main topic of concern, so let's move along. My apologies.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I don't think a single character alone will drive sells. I don't mean there aren't people willing to do it, but for that to work, first the New 3DS would have to sell. And it may, given how people have reacted to it. But time will tell.

Then again, this isn't a main topic of concern, so let's move along. My apologies.

Xenoblade is coming to it of course it will sell XD "I'm really feeling it"
But seriously I just hope I get my 3 mains back

 

[The Light Music Club]

Personally I think DHD has the Climbers in his trailer. That's why it has yet to be shown.

 

[Pazzo.]

Plus because of that Luma respawns, Nana Never respawned unless you died too.
Nana and Popo were inseparable.

If Nana was going to die I would do my damndest to save her.
Ice climbers are stronger together.
That's why Sopo is not a thing.

A true ****** Lover never gives up no matter what that silly portable has to say.
PoNa For Life
I need these 5 in a game together.

Aww.... But seriously, I'd much rather both than SoPo.

Alright, I have a question for ya'll...

If the ICs do become DLC, will they be Wii U exclusive? How will this settle with 3DS owners?

 

[J04KlM]

Aww.... But seriously, I'd much rather both than SoPo.

Alright, I have a question for ya'll...

If the ICs do become DLC, will they be Wii U exclusive? How will this settle with 3DS owners?

Exclusive DLC is only a method that should be done if they turn out to be completely incompatible with the 3DS. Which i don't think they are, as Sakurai said in the Famitsu column that the Ice Climbers were given low priority during development. This can only mean that not much time and effort was put into sorting the issue around them, and could've possibly postponed them later for DLC.

If they can't get them to work, then a Wii U exclusive DLC wouldn't alienate the 3DS userbase as it is simply just not possible on that version. I think the New 3DS could be used in play here with it's increased CPU. But getting a New 3DS just for Ice Climbers might seem like a bold move for some people. So Smash 3DS would need to get multiple improvement upgrades and additions on the New 3DS, along with Ice Climbers, would make it a lot more valuable.

 

[Lilfut]

I've never been a huge fan of the Climbers, as characters or as a game. But they're still a classic part of the series, and I'd love to see them as DLC - maybe with a new stage, too.
Maybe release them alongside some other ice-based characters, too. I'd love to see Weavile or Regice.

 

[Opossum]

Let's get creative for a bit guys. Let's discuss possible custom moves.


Uncreatively, I think their Ice Shot will just have big+slow and small+fast variants. Though maybe they can have one that coats the ground in ice, making foes more prone to tripping?

For Squall Hammer, one could have a freeze effect, but barely goes anywhere, while the other gives them a large amount of vertical life, but much less damage.

For Blizzard, one could have a larger blast radius, but lower damage, while the other could be "Explosive Blizzard," having Rest-like range, but shoots the foe up in a block of ice.

For Belay, they can be like Mega Man and use the Condor like Beat is used, referencing their entrance and winning mechanic from their home series. The other could be the REALLY obscure Bee enemy that was only in the VS Ice Climber arcade game. It can be more controlled that the Condor, which flies straight up, but it can be gimped, as the bee only has a small amount of HP, being an insect.

 

[AirShad]

Still hopin' my vets come back （´＿｀）

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Can I just express the feelings in have for these two.

when the game released I lost these three.(I also Lost Wolf but at this point he has everything going for him so I don't need to worry)
I have shed many tears for these guys
I can't express how much I wanted Amiibos of these guys.
My whole heart was shattered when I realised ROB was the final unlock (P.s I don't hate R.O.B)
I couldn't believe they were gone from me.
But DLC Is a thing now.
And my heat has regenerated because the first DLC was a veteran.
Only 3 to go and I will have my Tri-force of mains Back.


These guys were hat made Brawl for me.
These three kept me happy through my teens.
I owe a lot to these guys and I seriously hope they return.
Also to lighten the Mood Here's a pic of Clay model of these Dudes.

God Speed Guys.....God Speed. :')

 

[yahooda]

Not to be a hype killer, I personally think it would be great if the Ice Climbers were DLC, but would the Wii U be able to handle 8 people playing Ice Climbers on 8-player smash? That would mean rendering 16 separate character models, and I doubt that its possible to do that at 60 fps.

 

[Opossum]

Not to be a hype killer, I personally think it would be great if the Ice Climbers were DLC, but would the Wii U be able to handle 8 people playing Ice Climbers on 8-player smash? That would mean rendering 16 separate character models, and I doubt that its possible to do that at 60 fps.

Sakurai already stated they worked fine on the Wii U. For reference, Melee, through hacking, has been shown to handle six sets of Climbers. Apparently Brawl can have seven. Considering the massive tech update with the Wii U, there's no doubt that 8 would be no problem.

 

[KirbySS44]

What if they bring back the Ice Climbers stage from brawl back? To show that they haven't forgotten about the Ice Climbers.

 

[_Magus_]

Didn't Sakurai say they were scrapped cuz they caused glitches that were too many to be worth fixing just for one character?

 

[Sm4sher69]

Let's get creative for a bit guys. Let's discuss possible custom moves.


Uncreatively, I think their Ice Shot will just have big+slow and small+fast variants. Though maybe they can have one that coats the ground in ice, making foes more prone to tripping?

For Squall Hammer, one could have a freeze effect, but barely goes anywhere, while the other gives them a large amount of vertical life, but much less damage.

For Blizzard, one could have a larger blast radius, but lower damage, while the other could be "Explosive Blizzard," having Rest-like range, but shoots the foe up in a block of ice.

For Belay, they can be like Mega Man and use the Condor like Beat is used, referencing their entrance and winning mechanic from their home series. The other could be the REALLY obscure Bee enemy that was only in the VS Ice Climber arcade game. It can be more controlled that the Condor, which flies straight up, but it can be gimped, as the bee only has a small amount of HP, being an insect.

I'd like to see it like this:

Neutral specials:
-ice shot: regular ice shot.
-iceberg shot: giant version of ice shot with more damage and launching power, but doesn't travel as far.
-mini-ice shot: tiny version of ice shot that travels further, but has less damage and launching power.

Side specials:
-squal hammer: regular squal hammer
-tornado hammer: a squal hammer with more damage and launching power, but they stay at the same place.
-ice hammer: squal hammer with a freezing effect, but lesser damage.

Down specials:
-Blizzard: regular blizard
-Anti-freeze blizzard: blizzard that deals more damage and has more launch power, but doesn't freeze.
-Icy wind: blizzard that doesn't deal much damage, but has a larger reach.

Up specials:
-Belay: normal belay
-Condor flight: the condor flies them straight up and also works when there is 1 Ice Climber, but doesn't deal damage along the way.
-Nitpicker flight: like condor flight but deals damage (because the condor can't kill you in the game but a nitpicker can) and doesn't fly as high or as fast.

Please leave your own suggestions.

Not to be a hype killer, I personally think it would be great if the Ice Climbers were DLC, but would the Wii U be able to handle 8 people playing Ice Climbers on 8-player smash? That would mean rendering 16 separate character models, and I doubt that its possible to do that at 60 fps.

I think we've mentioned it multiple times in this thread, but Sakurai said Ice Climbers work perfectly on the wii u version thus they work in 8-player smash.

 

[lightdasher]

Let's get creative for a bit guys. Let's discuss possible custom moves.


Uncreatively, I think their Ice Shot will just have big+slow and small+fast variants. Though maybe they can have one that coats the ground in ice, making foes more prone to tripping?

For Squall Hammer, one could have a freeze effect, but barely goes anywhere, while the other gives them a large amount of vertical life, but much less damage.

For Blizzard, one could have a larger blast radius, but lower damage, while the other could be "Explosive Blizzard," having Rest-like range, but shoots the foe up in a block of ice.

For Belay, they can be like Mega Man and use the Condor like Beat is used, referencing their entrance and winning mechanic from their home series. The other could be the REALLY obscure Bee enemy that was only in the VS Ice Climber arcade game. It can be more controlled that the Condor, which flies straight up, but it can be gimped, as the bee only has a small amount of HP, being an insect.

Keep thinking about things like this too.

Ice shot custom 1 rapid shoots tiny Icicles that are kinda like foxes lazers, but slide along the floor, don't make them flinch
Ice Shot custom 2 big slow Icicle that freezes temporary

Squall Hammer custom 1, pulls in opponents and does more damage but has no recovery purpose
Squall Hammer custom 2, does no damage but has a better recovery

Blizzard custom 1, Nana always faces and freezes in the same direction as you but cannot freeze opponents
Blizzard custom 2, continuous and bigger like Bowsers B but diminishes after time

Belay custom 1, Condor like Megaman, simple enough, nice to know we have the same idea there
Belay custom 2, Popo shoots ice below him and launches him higher and does more damage, but no tether so Nana may not be able to recover

What I have here is SoPo options and Together options

 

[ikemachine]

they wont be announced until the new 3ds is out everywhere unless Sakurai wants to make them Japan exclusive for awhile

 

[DoodleDuck97]

All arguments about 8 player smash can get out the Window with this.

Now about that portable Smash bros.

 

[ROBnWatch]

Personally I think DHD has the Climbers in his trailer. That's why it has yet to be shown.

Same here. This, I think, is the only way they're going to be WUE/3DLC (see my last post for what that means). Otherwise, I'm pretty sure ICies will be worked on for DLC purposes.

Can I just express the feelings in have for these two.

when the game released I lost these three.(I also Lost Wolf but at this point he has everything going for him so I don't need to worry)
I have shed many tears for these guys
I can't express how much I wanted Amiibos of these guys.
My whole heart was shattered when I realised ROB was the final unlock (P.s I don't hate R.O.B)
I couldn't believe they were gone from me.
But DLC Is a thing now.
And my heat has regenerated because the first DLC was a veteran.
Only 3 to go and I will have my Tri-force of mains Back.


These guys were hat made Brawl for me.
These three kept me happy through my teens.
I owe a lot to these guys and I seriously hope they return.
Also to lighten the Mood Here's a pic of Clay model of these Dudes.

God Speed Guys.....God Speed. :')

You'd better not be hating on R.O.B....

Seems like I've missed a lot since last time, did you guys all get the day off work/school?!?!
Other than that I really don't have much to say. I really hope that the DHD trailer is shown off soon, because that might be where the mystery behind the ICies is. And hopefully, that's where they are. Other than that, I think they're locked for WUE/3DLC. However if they are shown off in the DHD trailer, it does confirm that they're unlockables since we were shown the starting roster of the Wii U version during the recent Direct. I also enjoy the ideas being brought up for ICies custom moves. I will keep supporting ICies until I know their fate. If they make it in via WUE/3DLC and/or DLC for both, then I'll be so happy! If not, on to supporting them for Smash 5 (assuming that will be coming in 6-8 years).

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Same here. This, I think, is the only way they're going to be WUE/3DLC (see my last post for what that means). Otherwise, I'm pretty sure ICies will be worked on for DLC purposes.



You'd better not be hating on R.O.B....

Seems like I've missed a lot since last time, did you guys all get the day off work/school?!?!
Other than that I really don't have much to say. I really hope that the DHD trailer is shown off soon, because that might be where the mystery behind the ICies is. And hopefully, that's where they are. Other than that, I think they're locked for WUE/3DLC. However if they are shown off in the DHD trailer, it does confirm that they're unlockables since we were shown the starting roster of the Wii U version during the recent Direct. I also enjoy the ideas being brought up for ICies custom moves. I will keep supporting ICies until I know their fate. If they make it in via WUE/3DLC and/or DLC for both, then I'll be so happy! If not, on to supporting them for Smash 5 (assuming that will be coming in 6-8 years).

Of course I don't hate R.O.B Why else we he be in my signature as one of my mains X'D
And no I have been stuck in college but see my life is very boring so I am on here most of the time :D
The only reason I don't show R.O.B as much love as these guys is because well.
He's one of my mains that I cherish in game if he had been Cut I would have flipped my S**t
But these 3 were cut so I will express my love for them till they are back in the game :')

 

[The Light Music Club]

Aww.... But seriously, I'd much rather both than SoPo.

Alright, I have a question for ya'll...

If the ICs do become DLC, will they be Wii U exclusive? How will this settle with 3DS owners?

That won't happen. They were ready for the Wii U. The only reason they aren't in either is because Sakurai didn't want exclusives.

 

[Pazzo.]

That won't happen. They were ready for the Wii U. The only reason they aren't in either is because Sakurai didn't want exclusives.

The alternative is no ICs whatsoever.

 

[The Light Music Club]

The alternative is no ICs whatsoever.

And that's what happened. That's why we toss them up as DLC. Sakurai himself said they work perfectly on the Wii U.