Breakdown of the U-tilt Combo (many variations)

[jtowns]

The basic combo is Down Throw -> U-tilt(2 times for some characters) -> Uair. Some of these you can do usmash. For some it is possible to di out by jumping up but not many. On the fast fallers you can do 2 u-tilts possibly backwards and after uair throw in a bair. You can modify this many ways to keep your opponent off guard. The main part of this combo is use D Throw and Utilt, the Uair can be changed for many moves. The number beside the name refers to the # of U-tilts. The fast fallers also can be u-tilted once, uair'd and then use down throw again.

Mario - No
Dk - Yes (1)
Link - Yes (1)
Samus - No
ZSS - No
*Kirby - Yes (1)
Fox - Yes (1 or 2)
Pika - Yes (1)
*Marth - Yes (1)
*GW - Yes (1)
Luigi - Yes (1)
*Diddy - Yes (1)
Sheik - Yes (1)
Zelda - No
*Pit - Yes (1)
*MK - Yes (1)
Falco - Yes (1 or 2)
*Squirtle - Yes (1)
Charizard - Yes (1)
Ivy - Yes (1)
Ike - Yes (1)
Snake - Yes (1)
Peach - No
*Gannon - Yes (1)
IC's - No
DDD - Yes (1)
Wolf - Yes (1 or 2)
Lucario - No
*Ness - Yes (1)
*Sonic - Yes (1)
Bowser - Yes (1)
Wario - Yes (1)
*TL - Yes (1)
Rob - Yes (1)
*Olimar - Yes (1)
CF - Yes (1 or 2)
Jiggs - No
*Lucas - Yes (1)

Characters marked with an asterisk (*) can di out vertically if they have reflexes of a super computer, but it's possible.

 

[Asdioh]

edited: like others said, pretty common sense for most kirby players, but good to know the specifics on certain characters

 

[TwilightKirby]

Not trying to be mean or anything but... why bother making a thread when you don't have anything to post yet?

 

[~Gonzo~]

10 agreeds

 

[jtowns]

yo, i was posting it, and then i realized i messed up my data so i re-did it. maybe i just won't tell you anymore

 

[Scala]

My new combo: fthrow to uair at low percents

I just told the future.

 

[jtowns]

Nah bro. it's a combo builder, haha. I'm sure Gonzo can take this and change it up some more and find new ****.

 

[~Gonzo~]

this really depends on the style of play u use. Most people kinda know this combo but dont use it due to the fact that other combos make more damage, however, if u've ever tried this on a spacey without spamming the utilt but timing them so that u maximize the hitstun time u can get close to 50 something damage.


If u like to combo in the air or keep ur opponent in the air or aerial chase them this should be what u go with. i Like keeping my opponents on the ground cuz i'm a grab ***** lol so i dont particularly use this but as every good smasher knows u take what u can get and work with it so knowing every combo at ur disposable is vital

 

[jtowns]

My title isn't a good one. It's not really a new combo, but it's more that I looked into the combo deeper and was thinking of ways to modify it.

 

[poorboy93]

This Is NOT! a new combo, I think any DECENT kirby player knows this, but thanks for the effort

 

[T-nuts]

another good thing about this combo is that if your opponent knows about it, they will try to airdodge immediately. if done at low percents obviously they cannot airdodge it, but at higher percents your opponent will. and you can easily take advantage of this airdodge by choosing to NOT utilt once you know they will be able to airdodge it, and instead following up with another attack to punish the airdodge.

my favorite way to do this is as follows:

grab-->dthrow-->utilt-->wait for them to airdodge--> grab-->dthrow-->wait for them to airdodge-->usmash.

of course you have to vary what you do to keep your opponent guessing. that second throw could be a forward throw, etc.

whats amazing is, even at higher percents, some opponents CONTINUE to airdodge, even though there is no way in hell you could ever follow up. you can capitalize on this with an upsmash and often score a kill this way. seriously, I get a decent amount of kills this way, and whenever I land a grab at about 45-50% + this is what I try to do because even if you dont get the followup, dthrow is your most damaging throw anyway.

 

[jtowns]

"This Is NOT! a new combo, I think any DECENT kirby player knows this, but thanks for the effort"
"It's not really a new combo, but it's more that I looked into the combo deeper and was thinking of ways to modify it."
I can't read either :<

 

[poorboy93]

"This Is NOT! a new combo, I think any DECENT kirby player knows this, but thanks for the effort"
"It's not really a new combo, but it's more that I looked into the combo deeper and was thinking of ways to modify it."
I can't read either :<

wowww just because you posted like 5 seconds before I did your trying to make me look stupid?. You could HAVE edited YOUR MAIN POST..... wasnt trying to diss you.

 

[jtowns]

i posted 10 minutes before, and you shouldn't phrase things so negative or you should expect a negative response. No hard feelings <3 ^_^

 

[poorboy93]

ahah wow I got a "<3"? thats funny
you should really change your title tho

 

[TwilightKirby]

this really depends on the style of play u use. Most people kinda know this combo but dont use it due to the fact that other combos make more damage, however, if u've ever tried this on a spacey without spamming the utilt but timing them so that u maximize the hitstun time u can get close to 50 something damage.


If u like to combo in the air or keep ur opponent in the air or aerial chase them this should be what u go with. i Like keeping my opponents on the ground cuz i'm a grab ***** lol so i dont particularly use this but as every good smasher knows u take what u can get and work with it so knowing every combo at ur disposable is vital

Well really I prefer to just start with an utilt on spacies and you can still get around 50 damage by doing like you said timing the utilts. Since each time you hit it gets less knockback and you start off with less knockback if you utilt from 0 you will get around the same damage and can finish with an upsmash or fsmash depending on where they DI (said this before I believe =S)

Really though the fthrow to uair combo is generally a better setup in my opinion, plus some characters I can go into a rising uair chain from fthrows

Oh and bthrow when your back is to the ledge at 0% can lead to inescapable WoP
Or at least on some chars... lol I only did this one time and made it up on the spot. It was a captain falcon player and I bthrowed and moved off the stage while doing bair then just kept following his body with DI and jumps and kept bairing til we were near the bottom left corner of the screen then floated back to safety while he used his upb with no chance of recovery.

But yeah actually dthrow is great when a platform is right above you, but I prefer to just finish an Fthrow>uair chain with a down throw and follow up from there (fastfallers I just chase and grab them every time they land)

Its all just preference really... kirby is versatile and people can come up with lots of different combos on the spot... just learn the properties behind each throw and attack.

 

[jtowns]

Well really I prefer to just start with an utilt on spacies and you can still get around 50 damage by doing like you said timing the utilts. Since each time you hit it gets less knockback and you start off with less knockback if you utilt from 0 you will get around the same damage and can finish with an upsmash or fsmash depending on where they DI (said this before I believe =S)

Really though the fthrow to uair combo is generally a better setup in my opinion, plus some characters I can go into a rising uair chain from fthrows

Oh and bthrow when your back is to the ledge at 0% can lead to inescapable WoP
Or at least on some chars... lol I only did this one time and made it up on the spot. It was a captain falcon player and I bthrowed and moved off the stage while doing bair then just kept following his body with DI and jumps and kept bairing til we were near the bottom left corner of the screen then floated back to safety while he used his upb with no chance of recovery.

But yeah actually dthrow is great when a platform is right above you, but I prefer to just finish an Fthrow>uair chain with a down throw and follow up from there (fastfallers I just chase and grab them every time they land)

Its all just preference really... kirby is versatile and people can come up with lots of different combos on the spot... just learn the properties behind each throw and attack.

Best post of the thread so far imo. That's what I intended to do was open up more doors for situations that do happen where you can't fthrow uair.

 

[Tomato Kirby]

I want the percent they can begin to escape, i.e., the highest percent the (character-specific) combo still works. Maybe if you get spare time...

(Wow, I sound like an unappreciative critic. Still, this is good to know.)

I think the title is better suited for "Characters D-Throw to U-Tilt Combo (or String) works On".

I tend use u/d-throw at high percentages and Gonzo combo at low percents. Next up, someone will find out on who the Gonzo Combo works on and up to what percent. The Kirby community would love this.

I think that this information is useful if the Gonzo Combo does not work against certain opponents(Rhyfelwyr claimed Pit is unaffected, for example), then they still could get hit by this.


I will have to add this to my FAQ. Thanks!

 

[jtowns]

Actually my next update was going to be %'s. Almost all characters that it is 1 u-tilt with is like 27-30%. Other heavier characters and fast fallers can go for quite a bit though.

 

[jtowns]

Sorry it's going to be a bit before I re-update, if anyone wants to look into this I would appreciate it. My wii is going to be gone for awhile :<

 

[kenja0]

How about d-throw to u-tilt to Swallow? Works for the most part.
And for spacies you can recycle another d-throw to u-tilt before you Swallow them (provided the spacies are between 0-10% and Wolf's is not started at 0 or else he can fall fast enough to shield it).

If your opponent tries to struggle out of you swallow and you absorb them, they may come out doing an action in the air like an attack or a dodge in which you can pursue with an u-tilt or u-airs, if they come out jumping, then you can't do anything else for the most part.

This move is escapable (not by Fox), but the margin of escape from u-tilt to Swallow is virtually the same from d-throw to u-tilt. Just a thought.

 

[jtowns]

that eliminated a ton of damage unless you are in real need of their power. That would work for matches like ROB(And wario for gonzo, rofl). I'm about to be heading home, 6 hour drive blows. I'll update later.

 

[~Gonzo~]

hahahaha on the Wario, u can Utilt once and then inhale in the direction they try and land in. I know on heavier characters Fthrow, Uair, Inhale works

 

[KiraNumber7]

from 0% (isnt that a shocker)

f-grab, u-air, d-grab, u-tilt, u-smash

believe it, it works.....on most people XD

 

[freddybones]

That list would be a lot more useful if there were damage percentages for each character.

 

[~Gonzo~]

thats coming Fred,

 

[TwilightKirby]

from 0% (isnt that a shocker)

f-grab, u-air, d-grab, u-tilt, u-smash

believe it, it works.....on most people XD

eh it only really works on fast fallers. I believe floaty characters can just jump out. Delay the utilt a tiny bit though.

 

[~Gonzo~]

yeah my bro has been jumping out with MK pretty often. Though he plays against my Kirby so much he almost counters Kirby lol