Brawl 64 "BRoom"

[Zen Yore]

Original Thread here :

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=248572



Mmkay, so hi y'all.
There's been a project on the Smash Workshop forum that I've been watching for a time.
"Brawl 64 - Back to Basics"


It's kind of a coincidence, both of the Brawl 64 and the Smash 64 Remake thread are active.

I decided to create this thread as a "Backroom" for the Brawl 64 project, since most of the brawlnoobs who post in there have no clue about Smash 64.


Personally, I think this project could be really interesting. Let's just discuss it in here instead of argueing with the brawl noobs, and when we all confirm on a point, we can post it in the Brawl 64 original thread.



Read the thread first, and start discussing :
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=248572

 

[asianaussie]

I read the first page a while back, then stopped. 'Balance was screwed' annoyed me.

I think some crap about only Ness being able to recover was highlighted and attacked vigorously.

 

[NixxxoN]

dont bash brawl ignorants, most of them are just kids that need to be taught lol

 

[MattNF]

I think we can all agree that TheSilenceOfNoOne is the dumbest poster in that thread. He thinks Ness has the best recovery, when it's actually the complete opposite. What a joke.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

I just want falcon to be falcon so I can have fun with brawl hax

 

[asianaussie]

A proper post:

Additions are obvious: hitstun comes to mind without any consideration. The harder part is what to take away:

Grabbing ledges while facing away
Edge sweetspot
Wall jumps
Roof/wall techs
Air dodge
Footstool Jump

Honestly, I'd feel better working from Brawl+ as the template.

Most people in both threads are clamouring for the addition of characters. I say keep all the characters in Brawl but take away Side-Bs. This might be a bit silly, but I'm just used to reversing Neut-B moves without pulling out Side-B moves.

Stage additions are obvious, but they HAVE to remake Peach's Castle, Hyrule and Saffron, possibly Mush Kingdom too - these stages are part of what made SSB64 great for me - and with stage editor and texture hacks, it shouldn't be too hard. Of course, FD and Battlefield should be there, maybe Metal Mario's house too.

 

[nyc_tag$]

I really like this idea. If everything works out (and I hope it does), I'll be sure to check out the final result.

 

[Zen Yore]

I agree with cheeseball, it would make more sense to start the project with the brawl+ codes.

I just want falcon to be falcon so I can have fun with brawl hax

Haha. Falcon is so nerfed in Brawl. O well.
Differences between Brawl and SSB64 Falcon are :

* Faster Falcon Punch
* No Raptor Boost
* Air Falcon kick can be done a bit lower in the air without landing with the lag
* Up+B is lower
* Up+B has a more powerful knockback
* Nipple Spike replaced with simple spike (no meteor smash)
* Knee (Forward Air) is now his Brawl Nair
* Nair (now the forward air) is a sex kick
* Uair has a vertical knockback, which is diagonal in SSBM and SSBB.
* Bair is stronger
* Upsmash is a single hit upwards
* Downsmash is similar to Samus's but weaker and doesn't have any reverse knockback
* Forwardsmash is a kick forward, knockback similar to the fire elbow.

This is why falcon is so good in ssb64

 

[killa k]

I really wanna see how this project turns out.

 

[Superstar]

Problem is, we really don't much data or anything, so if you wanted it to behave exactly like Smash64, its not really possible. Similar, yeah, but the same?

 

[The Star King]

Is it possible to completely change moves with hacks, for example Yoshi's utilt or Pika's bair?

 

[Zantetsu]

A backroom for another custom brawl game that will die soon.

Woooow...

 

[Daedatheus]

A backroom for another custom brawl game that will die soon.

Everyone's just discussing. No one here is claiming that they're going to make it all a reality.

 

[JaimeHR]

I have been trying to make Barwl 64 using the available codes out there (like S.Cancel, Hit Stun, Shield Stun) but I'm still missing stuff like no air-dodge(anytime, not only during tumble) and no sidestep dodge, the last one being the most important because without it we could be able to do shield through platforms xP.

Here is a little sample of my Barwl 64 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1e0GlCx8_0