Bowser vs. jiggz questions

[Tipo mastr]

K, I haven't actually played jiggz as bowser yet, but I already have a couple questions.

1: What general strategy should I use to avoid rest combos? I know he will be using them. XD

2: What are my edgegaurding options? I've got a feeling fsmash might just not work. =/

 

[LordQuwit]

There arent any effective stratgies against Jiggly when you are Bowser. Just use Marth instead.

 

[TheRedMarth]

I don't have a large amount of exp with an excellent Jiggz as my oppenent, so my advice will be somewhat limited and general.

If you're playing a jigglypuff that is good at shffling his/her/it's aerials, then your in trouble. Bowser incredibly easy for jigs to just walk straight off the level. Stay in the air and stay alive with fair/nair/bair. If you've got a Jigglypuff that is really putting pressure n you when you're down, try tech-fortressing.

As far as edgeguarding, ftilt/btilt if Jiggz is coming in at or below your level. If above, fair. Uair if you're feeling lucky.

 

[Tipo mastr]

There arent any effective stratgies against Jiggly when you are Bowser. Just use Marth instead.

I'm talking about friendlies, not tourney matches. Mind you, in tourney matches I WILL be using marth. I just want to make him respect bowser. =)

Another question. You know the trick where he bairs, jumps, bairs, jumps, and does that until u die? Will the fortress help there?

 

[Okurama]

Another question. You know the trick where he bairs, jumps, bairs, jumps, and does that until u die? Will the fortress help there?

if you meant WoP, then yes it does work (fortress is know for breaking combo moves you know). I really have no expiriance to give you againts a good jiggly (haven't face a good jiggly only a bunch of foxes, falcos, marth, and you know the more "top-hight tier things).

 

[cmart]

I've played Anden/Magus/Aeroshadow. Didn't beat any of them as Bowser, but I didn't get more than two-stocked by any of them either. It's not a pretty match. Try to get under him-utilt and uair are your best options for getting a kill off, if difficult to land. If you can see a pound coming, space a fsmash, though I doubt you'll see one coming if the jiggz is any good. Shield fortresses are good, since they send jiggz so far up and net early kills. I dunno any other advice-a more experienced Bowza could prolly help you out better.

As far as avoiding rest... Don't let him get near you ever. Magus utilt-rested like a *****. After I lost two stock in ten seconds I stayed the hell away from him, and did a lot better for it.

 

[Essence_of_the_Gods]

I have learned that a well timed u-tilt seems to destroy WOP attempts.

 

[Coen]

If you're playing a jigglypuff that is good at shffling his/her/it's aerials, then your in trouble.

Jigglypuffs wouldn't ever dare to shffl an aerial. They do an aerial and float out of shieldgrab/aerial range. Especially on Bowser's shield they will never attempt such a thing, since Jiggz gets KO'd at 70/80% or something by Fortress.

 

[GrabfestBowser]

if you meant WoP, then yes it does work (fortress is know for breaking combo moves you know). I really have no expiriance to give you againts a good jiggly (haven't face a good jiggly only a bunch of foxes, falcos, marth, and you know the more "top-hight tier things).

The fortress does NOT work against a good jiggly player! She will rest you out of it way too easily if you miss.

Luke

 

[Okurama]

dude hven't plyed good jiggly player, how am i suppost to know (it was just a sugestion dude, its not my fault am stuck with dudes that played with top tiers insted of jiggly or ice climbers, or even low tiers for change)

 

[Magus420]

I've played Anden/Magus/Aeroshadow. Didn't beat any of them as Bowser, but I didn't get more than two-stocked by any of them either. It's not a pretty match. Try to get under him-utilt and uair are your best options for getting a kill off, if difficult to land. If you can see a pound coming, space a fsmash, though I doubt you'll see one coming if the jiggz is any good. Shield fortresses are good, since they send jiggz so far up and net early kills. I dunno any other advice-a more experienced Bowza could prolly help you out better.

As far as avoiding rest... Don't let him get near you ever. Magus utilt-rested like a *****. After I lost two stock in ten seconds I stayed the hell away from him, and did a lot better for it.

You sure? I could've sworn there were at least a few really ugly matches in there from me getting lots of rests off per match. I remember feeling bad because of how dumb it was, and then you switched to Luigi I believe and the matches were A LOT closer. I would've used someone else but I wanted to warm up my main.

Fortress from shield is pretty good here. Watch your shield size to avoid shieldstab, since well placed pounds and u-tilts can often hit the open spots and lead to easy rests. A good amount of jiggs players by reflex go to jump when coming back down and you jump up at them, so jump up, wait for the jump and mid-air jump into an u-air. It kills at really low damage. Don't get predictable with it though.

Marth is overrated against puff. Use fox... and wtf is a btilt?

 

[cmart]

Wow I'm surprised you remembered me. I don't remember getting more than two-stocked, despite those rests, but whatever if you say it was worse I'll concede it since I'm sure my memory is spotty. I had no sleep before that tourny and was running on energy drinks so it's entirely possible I forgot some details or something like that.
Don't worry about feeling bad-I did Bowser vs Jiggz of my own free will-I knew it was going to be ugly.

You tricked me with that Luigi **** btw-I tried him out against Anden thinking it would work better and got woped off the side every stock. Whatever different playstyles and all that.

 

[Magus420]

Yeah, I seem to do better against marth than I do against luigi. Luigi's a magus counter, lol. Same with peach, even though those are supposed to be pretty good matchups for puff. Go figure.

 

[falco_owns_all]

Jigglypuff owns Bowser just like everybody else owns Bowser, Bowser is ridiculously bad

 

[Kevvviiinnn]

Jigglypuff owns Bowser just like everybody else owns Bowser, Bowser is ridiculously bad

Never post in here ever again. *Tries to ban you*

 

[Tipo mastr]

Yea, that guy is a noob. Anyway, when i described the trick, i didn't specificaly mean the WoP. He actually doesnt WoP that much. I talking about when he WoPs you so far off the stage to kill you. He does this all the time against ganondorfs, and I'm pretty sure it will work against bowser. My question is whether or not the delay between the bairs is long enough to fit in a fortress. Thanks!

 

[Gimpyfish62]

The fortress does NOT work against a good jiggly player! She will rest you out of it way too easily if you miss.

Luke

Agree'd

This matchup is painful and horrible and slow and annoying. avoid it at all costs. I'd rather fight a shiek, just to get it overwith faster lol with jiggs you lose and it takes like 6 minutes.

 

[Tipo mastr]

Ok, I'm gonna just try it out and see how I do. Of course, I won't be dissapointed if I lose, because I'm only using bowser for friendlies. I'm sooo gonna use marth in a tourney. ^_^

Well cya.............. CUTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

 

[Megachuk]

Seriously, how do you win? My bowser takes peaches, mario's, spacies, + everyone else, EXCEPT JIGGS. I usually lose to shieks but its never that bad. But jiggs just destroys me. And don't say up B out of shield, I never mess that up. And jiggs has no reason to EVER be on top of a bowser. spaced Bairs suck...

HELP

 

[Zhilo]

Curl up into a ball on the floor, and accept your death.

This is the least balanced match I can imagine. Your only hope is that the jigglypuff has no experience at all fighting bowsers, and then you can kill her a couple times with the unexpected reach of the Uar or utilt. then you're dead because he'll grow used to your playstyle after like the third stock, and never again will you see a glimmer of hope of actually winning.

 

[1048576]

Never post in here ever again. *Tries to ban you*

Oh, but when Gimpy says it it's okay.

 

[KevinM]

He said that a year ago ******* look at the post time