Birdo For Ssbb!

[Brawlmatt202]

birdo isnt a BAD idea, she just isnt a GOOD idea.

She's "inbetween", right? That's how I see it as well.

There are plenty other fish in the sea.

 

[Reno>]

Birdo isn't just a bad idea for brawl. It was a bad idea all together.

 

[h2ownage]

We all want Birdo for brawl right?

Actually, no. For Mario Sport games only hopefully. Then again, it's the kind of sick, sick stunt I can see Nintendo pulling...

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

You revived this topic for the sole purpose of saying no?

Jesus christ,just let this topic die.

 

[Pichu_815]

@ EpF: If you're just going to say that, why post?

Anyway, I doubt Birdo would make it into Brawl. I think she could make an interesting character addition though. You can't say she doesn't have enough personality, we saw MORE than enough of that in Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga. Also, she does have quite a wide range of possible attacks. But she's always taken the backseat behind someone else. For example, she was Wart's mini-boss and Popple's 2nd sidekick. If she ever came back in more of a starring role, I'd say yes, but for right now a 2D cameo in one stage is "as far as she goes." (runs away and hides behind a rock)

 

[the grim lizard]

B = Suck and project - Birdo sucks an enemy and can shoot the egg out of her mouth taking on two enemies at once. To keep the enemy in her mouth, the user holds B.

Eggs are coming out of there? That is not a mouth...

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Eggs are coming out of there? That is not a mouth...

Then what is it?

 

[Mario Ninja]

MOVESET:

B = Suck and project - Birdo sucks an enemy and can shoot the egg out of her mouth taking on two enemies at once. To keep the enemy in her mouth, the user holds B.

B sideways = Bow boomerang - Birdo throws her bow as a boomerang

B Up = Egg charge - THIS IS NOT A JUMP! Birdo unleashes a giant egg towards her enemy.

B down = Egg shield - Birdo creates two eggs to gaurd her sides.

SUPER = Birdo jumps up and releashes a rapid fire of eggs from her mouth.

ICON = Mario icon, what do you expect?

Taunt = Her usual Birdo noises and blows a kiss

PARTNER IN TEAM MATCHES = Yoshi of course!

I'm sorry but this moveset sucks. Birdo cannot suck people up and spit them out ( She is not Yoshi or Kirby or any combination of the two). Bow Bomerang also seems a little stupid, i think >B needs to be an Egg Missle or something like that because she usually shoots her eggs sideways not up like Yoshi.

I think Birdo would be a cool Brawl character but she needs a unique and original moveset.

 

[Hejiru]

I really do think Birdo wilol be in Brawl. She has appeared in several games latley (mostly as cameos) and has good possibilites for moves.

 

[PitIcarus]

I really do think Birdo wilol be in Brawl. She has appeared in several games latley (mostly as cameos) and has good possibilites for moves.

A "Birdo" is just a generic bad guy from the Mario Bros games. Brawl is a game for named characters. Birdo and "Hammer Bro's" are just nicknames for baddies that are not individual.

 

[Hejiru]

A "Birdo" is just a generic bad guy from the Mario Bros games. Brawl is a game for named characters. Birdo and "Hammer Bro's" are just nicknames for baddies that are not individual.

She was significant enough to be in Mario Kart: Double Dash, and has had cameos in other Mario games, like Superstar Saga.

 

[PitIcarus]

She was significant enough to be in Mario Kart: Double Dash, and has had cameos in other Mario games, like Superstar Saga.

And? THEY are also playable in mario strikers. Which really doesn't mean anything. "Birdo" is a race more than it is a character.

 

[master_link12]

Birdo should not be in brawl period. She is just a supporting character that appears in mario games and the most of them are the sport and other multiplayer games that that dont develop any history to the series. Remember that it is smash bros brawl not mario bros brawl that means no birdo, toad, daisy waluigi and others. The mario series has more than enough characters as it is and I count yoshi and wario as part of the mario series but they got their own games where they are the main characters. They are the equivalent of putting tingle in brawl since he has many small roles in the zelda games and counting him as a different serie because he has his own game

 

[Yoshi Yoshi]

I can't really see Birdo as being playable. Maybe an Assist Trophy, but nothing more.

 

[RBinator]

Well, I guess there's one thing I can say about Birdo, she has more going for her then Daisy and Waluigi as she had a bigger role then spin offs (or in Daisy's case, Super Mario Land on top of spin offs). On the other hand, I know the Mario series happens to be the most popular Nintendo series and I sometimes use that as an supporting argument, but really, wouldn't eight be enough to get the point across?

Mario, Bowser, Yoshi, Wario, DK, and Peach (while not 100% confirmed, I see the odds in her favor more then anything) make six so far. If Luigi really is the shoe in that he's believed to be (including by me), despite not being solid proof for being in yet, that's seven. Those seven and Toad make up "the big eight" who are most likely to show up in Mario spin off games. Of course, this is not likely how Sakurai's gonna think, but it doesn't mean it can't be thrown out there with supporting arguments.

Back to Birdo; well personally, I don't see her fitting with the the already large number of Mario characters we have in Brawl (five for sure, possibly going on six). I don't see the popularity, Nintendo status (like number of games and role in them), or uniqueness high enough compared to the major Mario characters. Also, do we have anything idea of what Sakurai would possibly see in Birdo to make her playable? Of course we don't know exactly what Sakurai's thinking, but that's not to say we can't act least make an attempt to wonder.

...birdo, toad, daisy waluigi and others...

Why Toad? Of course, I rather discuss that in the Toad topic, but that kinda caught my eye.

 

[Sugoi]

If Birdo comes in(which I dout) then Yoshi needs to go, no need for two lame dinos.

 

[SonicMario]

4 words: Assist Trophy at Best

 

[Pieman0920]

La di da~

Neutral B: Birdo rears back its head, charging up a projectile egg attack. If unchanrged, the egg will be about as big as a egg canister, but when fully charged, it becomes about as big as Samus’s charge shot. The move has moderate power, but deceptively good knock back. It is hampered though by being a bit slow in all of its forms. In reality, its charging method is more like Sheiks than any other’s, as it will continue to charge, and when it reaches its full, Birdo doesn’t fire it, but just keeps charging until B is pressed again. Like Sheik’s though, Birdo can roll, and keep the charge for later.

Forward B: Birdo raises its head, and shoots a slightly deformed egg in a small arc (Smaller than Yoshi’s) The egg will stop and float before it hits the ground, and start to spin in place, creating a flipper like effect. Like I stated, the eggs are deformed to be longer and more oval than normal, but they are still round none the less. Birdo can set up three before one has to be broken for it to set up another. (If she fires a fourth, the oldest will simply disappear) The eggs will also disappear when they hit an enemy, splitting apart their egg shells. (Which can hit another opponent that’s to close, though not likely) If not hit by anyone, the flipper eggs will disappear after about 7 seconds.

Up B: Birgo makes a short up, spinning around in a pink blur. After a brief half second, it will launch itself at a 45 degree upwards angle. The distance is nice, and it would be a very good recovery move if it didn’t have the flaw of making Birdo face the other way after it launches herself. It can flip directions but it will take a second after the move is launched, and it will still be in free fall mode. Much like Ike, during that brief spinning start it doesn’t flinch yet can take damage.

Down B: Birdo wraps itself in a giant egg, and slowly starts to recover. It’s about 7 percent per second, and although the move starts off fast, it is hard to break out of. An enemy can break through the shell of the egg with any move that does over 10 percent damage, and thus will damage Birdo also, but it is interesting that if a attack hits the egg that is below, the egg will still crack, but Birdo will take no damage.

Final Smash: Birdo transforms into the Robo-Birdo from the Advance remake of SMB2. In this mode, Birdo is invincible, but can’t jump or attack in any other method than giant bomb eggs. Holding A will cause Robo-Birdo to cycle her head from 90% up to almost 180 degrees down. Pressing B will cause a fast and giant exploding egg, which has the same power as a bomb-omb. Robo-Birdo reloads these things fast, so an opponent trying to dodge has to be fast on their toes.

 

[JesterBox]

Birdo is a man, check the sources its not a translation error.

 

[Pieman0920]

Well I know, but to avoid controversy, I tried to lable it as a it. (Though I let it slip a few times and refrenced Birdo as female in there. >_>)

 

[SonicMario]

Birdo is a man, check the sources its not a translation error.

So what if Birdo was said to be a man in the original manual. Nintendo has since changed that. It is sort of the same thing with Vivian in Paper Mario: TTYD where "she" was a "he" in the Japanese version. They do this so that parents don't think they are inspiring Cross dressing or Gay/Lesbian stuff.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

now that i think of it birdo may work well as a yoshi clone.

 

[Bassoonist]

now that i think of it birdo may work well as a yoshi clone.

We don't need anymore clones.

Gosh even Sakurai doesn't want them in this game.

 

[the grim lizard]

So what if Birdo was said to be a man in the original manual. Nintendo has since changed that. It is sort of the same thing with Vivian in Paper Mario: TTYD where "she" was a "he" in the Japanese version. They do this so that parents don't think they are inspiring Cross dressing or Gay/Lesbian stuff.

Sorry to burst yalls bubble, but Birdo is a transgendered male.

Although Nintendo of America classifies Birdo as female and some classify it as transgendered, the first edition game manual for Super Mario Bros. 2 describes Birdo as follows: "He thinks he is a girl and he spits eggs from his mouth. He'd rather be called 'Birdetta.'" Based on this description, it is arguable that Birdo is the first transgendered video game character. Subsequent printings of the game manual delete the Birdetta sentence but retains the first description.

In Japan, Birdo is known as "Catherine" and purportedly enjoys being called "Cathy". However, the Birdo character has always been male in the original Japanese versions. Presumably to avoid controversy, Nintendo of America has localized Birdo as female in future appearances of the character. It was speculated that Birdo was possibly transgendered, and Nintendo of America would eventually retcon this tidbit to avoid raising any concerns about the character's transsexuality. Confusion has also arisen over Birdo because the names for Birdo and Ostro, an ostrich that playable characters can ride, were erroneously switched in the Super Mario Bros. 2 end credits [1] as well as in the game manual. Since then, many have confused the two to the point of calling the actual species "Ostro," and believing that the 'main pink one' was individually named "Birdo." Super Mario Advance, a game which contains a remake of Super Mario Bros. 2, does not repeat this mistake.

Recently, Birdo has been noted as a male on the official European Mario Strikers Charged Football website and in the game manual.

There you have it.

 

[Chibirobo]

This pretty much sums up how I feel about most extra mario character in brawl:



http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2098628

 

[FierceDeityWolf]

Birdo: Nice moveset, lame character. I would definitely not want to play as a transexual character.

She would also be pretty much a clone of Yoshi.

 

[SpitFire15]

Birdo has never had any impact in the Mario universe. Not only that, but it's a disgusting ****** that shoots eggs out of a hole.

Hell, the only Mario sports character I consider worse than Birdo is Petey Pirhana.

 

[ClarkJables]

yah there are tons of other characters with higher chances then birdo, would make a good at though

 

[Tanea]

yah there are tons of other characters with higher chances then birdo, would make a good at though

like who boo waluigi qive me a break and birdo can flutter or sallow people so it can't
possibly yoshi's clone

 

[tstumo]

^thank you. what people fail to understand is the mario series will more than likely get some new characters. with Doc getting the axe a character will replace him. and there will be just one more addition. I say bowser jr for sure. and Birdo to replace dr mario. or another female from the series. either way her chances are high considering there isnt much competition in the mario series.

 

[Bassoonist]

What are you kidding me?

There's Paper Mario and Toad ahead of these party characters. I'd be so disappointed if I saw somebody like Waluigi or Birdo and no mention of either of those two characters.

 

[tstumo]

toad a BIG maybe. but paper mario? we dont need another version of mario. we have luigi who already resembles him. and wario also ... well not that much in this game but yeah. point is Paper mario is like Doctor Mario to me. same person. Sakurai was smart for not letting Samus and Zamus be seperate. it wouldnt make much sense. and we dont really need the same for Mario just a paper version.

 

[Gaudion]

Birdo has never had any impact in the Mario universe. Not only that, but it's a disgusting ****** that shoots eggs out of a hole.

Hell, the only Mario sports character I consider worse than Birdo is Petey Pirhana.

Hey, you leave Petey alone. Where else have you seen such a colassal cranium?

 

[Bassoonist]

toad a BIG maybe. but paper mario? we dont need another version of mario. we have luigi who already resembles him. and wario also ... well not that much in this game but yeah. point is Paper mario is like Doctor Mario to me. same person. Sakurai was smart for not letting Samus and Zamus be seperate. it wouldnt make much sense. and we dont really need the same for Mario just a paper version.

Paper Mario =/= Dr. Mario.

There's plenty of moves they could give Paper Mario that would separate him from Mario.

 

[tstumo]

yeah I know im not saying they cant. he would be one of the most unique characters. but he's still Mario. just a paper version. and smash bros even thought it's a fighting game Sakurai still makes it so it makes sense. Link and Y.Link can go through time whcih explains why they can appear in the same game together. but Mario and Doctor Mario was the same. and now im sure Doc isnt going to be in brawl.That's why Sakurai did what he did with Samus in brawl. you know. paper mario is just a paper version of Mario. nd i dunno I get the feeling that Sakurai is trying to make this game make sense.

 

[Tanea]

^ i agree mario or paper mario would suck if they were going to do that. Then they should put in boshi,king koopa,racoon mario,sunshine mario, and vacum luigi. just because there are different version of one character it doesn't mean that they shouold be in there at least both and petey and birdo are different or unique

 

[coolchris818]

birdo will make it in

 

[Bassoonist]

birdo will make it in

What makes you think that?

 

[FierceDeityWolf]

birdo will make it in

 

[SonicMario]

birdo will make it in

Yeah, she will be in. Just as an ASSIST TROPHY.

This is what i think of Birdo's chances in Brawl as a playable:

Pictures are worth a 1,000 words.

(Picture Credit to Wiseguy if he comes here, too lazy to try to find it myself)