bijoukaiba
Smash Journeyman
I hope these threads are still permitted...
Although I am still relatively new to this forum (I've been here about nine months), I figured I would make my very own wishlist for Brawl, and include my reasonings as well. I plan to divide it into a few sections for easier classification based on chances of getting in and on my preferences. Anyways, without further ado...
bijoukaiba's Wishlist for Brawl
Returning Characters
CONFIRMED
Mario (no, DUH!!)
Link (he looks totally awesome TP style!)
Samus
Kirby
Pikachu (totally kawaii! ^_^)
Fox (I'm not too fond of his Command look... maybe his Assault/Adventures/Melee styles will be alternate costumes...)
SEMI-CONFIRMED
Yoshi (a stage in the new trailer resembles Yoshi's Island)
Donkey Kong (Didn't really find any proof for him in the trailer, but everyone has him listed as semi-confirmed. And besides, he's DK!)
CHARACTERS I WANT TO, OR I KNOW WILL, RETURN ( An asterisk * means I especially want their return!)
Luigi (thanks for the catch, TJK1997 ^_^)
Bowser
Peach (actually, I don't really have an opinion about her... but she's definitely returning.)
****Captain Falcon (OMFG, YES! So what if the Mario Kart stage resembles Mute City? This bounty hunter is NOT going anywhere!)
Ganondorf
Falco
**Ness (Don't even mention Lucas in this psychic kid's presence!)
*Ice Climbers (Totally awesome old-schoolers, a set of unique fighters, and I am DYING to laugh in the faces of the noobs who believed the rumor! I think it would be great IF Sakurai himself officially states on the Nintendo website that the rumor is false AND that it is confirmed the ICs and GAW will be returning!)
Zelda
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo (He just requires some tweakage is all.)
*Mr. Game and Watch (See argument for Ice Climbers. I shall laugh in the faces of the noobs! LAUGH!)
*****Marth (Do you KNOW how many tournament players and rabid fangirls would protest and petition Nintendo if he got removed?! Oh, and he's also my main.
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CHARACTERS I WANT TO RETURN.... BUT PROBABLY/POSSIBLY WON'T.
*Roy (he COULD be given a unique moveset... but he was just an advertisement and wasn't too popular with serious players. I still hope he returns though...)
Sheik (I don't have an opinion about her, but she could still possibly leave)
CHARACTERS I WANT TO THROW OUT THE WINDOW... BUT WILL ACT LIKE A BOOMERANG AND MORE THAN LIKELY RETURN. >_<
Young Link (He could possibly be returning in his cel-shaded form... he could easily be given a unique moveset too.)
CHARACTERS THAT WILL PROBABLY BE HITCH-HIKING A TAXI TO LAS VEGAS, NEVER TO BE HEARD FROM AGAIN
Pichu (I DO like her as a Poke'mon... just not as a fighter.)
Doctor Mario (all the smashers and most of the players are eating their apples to keep this doctor away)
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Now, we enter the area that most people anticipate... who do I, as a gamer, want to appear in Brawl that hasn't been in SSB/M before? Which Nintendo characters are most deserving? THIS IS MERELY MY OPINION!!
Newcomers
CONFIRMED
Meta-Knight (Dying to try out his aerials and grab/throw attacks)
Pit (Eeee, he looks so much fun!!)
Zero-Suit Samus (sort of a "semi-newcomer", as a transformation of Samus. When Captain Falcon gets confirmed, I'm using his B-Up on her immediately. XD She's very pretty. :3)
Wario (Oh, the laughs I'm gonna have...)
Snake (I don't even know what to say...)
UNCONFIRMED / ACTUAL WISHLIST
SAMURAI GOROH
(First Appearance: F-Zero, 1991)
REASONING: OVERALL, HE IS MY NUMBER ONE PICK AMONGST ALL NEWCOMERS! His moveset would be easy to design, more than likely being semi-fist-fighting and semi-swordsmanship. He would also be a heavyweight swordsman, possibly alongside a Ganondorf with a revamped moveset. He has a long history of gaming, dating back to the very first F-Zero game as one of only four racers (alongside Pico, Dr. Stewart, and good ol' Captain Falcon), and has appeared in almost every single F-Zero game to date (I think he was only excluded from one... but the same thing happened to Captain Falcon too!). As Captain Falcon's greatest rival- both in racing and bounty hunting- he clearly has a massive importance to the series. A lot of information was revealed about him in F-Zero GX. We could also use a few more villain/rival characters in Smash. When he was glimpsed briefly in the trailer for Melee, some people got fairly excited about more F-Zero rep... only to have their hopes dramatically crushed, dun-dun-dun! Nintendo was totally teasing us! I think this time, we're going to definitely have more F-Zero rep, and Goroh is by far the best choice for the job. If Jody Summers, Doctor Stewart, Ryu Suzaku (Rick Wheeler), Black Shadow, Mr. EAD (WTF? Just kidding.
) or Deathborn or any combination of the afore mentioned characters get in over Samurai Goroh, I will be extremely upset... or I'll just be having a bad dream (Wake up!). Yes, I play F-Zero (although I'm not that good...), I've seen episodes of the anime (loved the music!!), and I've read the story and guide for the game. When I plug in SSBB, I'm going to play "Butterfly", a song from DDR, and sing along with my own "tweaked" lyrics. "I've been searching for a man all across Japan, just to find, to find my Samurai (Goroh)."
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=74893&highlight=Samurai+Goroh
DIDDY KONG
(First Appearance: Donkey Kong Country, 1994)
REASONING: I believe when some person made a comment about "Character X" being a shoo-in for Brawl, one of the mods had made a comment that Wario was also a shoo-in for Melee but didn't make it in. I believe Diddy's case is exactly the same as Wario's case- he's been deserving a spot in Smash since SSB. Just as Luigi and Yoshi are to Mario and Navi and Midna are to Link, Diddy is to Donkey Kong. Diddy was given multiple weapons/fighting techniques that could easily- almost easy enough for a 10 year old to make a moveset- be implemented in Brawl. Donkey Kong Country was a great source of inspiration. And hey, DK's gotta have some more rep on his side too, right? What better place to look than his own sidekick/nephew?
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=71535
CAPTAIN OLIMAR
(First Appearance: Pikmin, 2001)
REASONING: Well, we've gotta include some Gamecube-generation characters! Olimar is a character from a unique series known as Pikmin. He would be an interesting character to craft, considering he's only the size of a quarter according to the guidebook and he has so many Pikmin at his disposal. Before someone asks, yes he can be made taller. Pikachu is supposed to be 1'4", but he's as tall as Ness in Melee! If you haven't purchased the game, then shame on you. This game could definitely be created into a multi-adventure series, especially considering the fact there was a Pikmin 2 released a little over two years ago. IF the series DOES continue, and IF a "Pikmin 3" IS released on the Wii, then Olimar's chances will definitely increase. Maybe from the size of a quarter to the size of an eleven year old boy as tall as a 1'4" electric mouse. If he is put into Brawl, I intend to make him one of my secondaries, if not one of my mains.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=71336&highlight=olimar
POO/PU
(First Appearance: Earthbound: Mother 2, 1994-95.)
REASONING:Just like the Donkey Kong and F-Zero series, Earthbound could also use a boost in rep. Several people have suggested Lucas for Brawl, but based on his moveset in Mother 3 he would be almost the same as Ness, whether put in as his own character or *shudders* a Ness replacement. Now, let's take the case of Poo. He also uses PSI, but has taken strict martial arts training as well. He could serve as both a PK fighter and a karate kid. A true Earthbound fan would probably agree when I say his special "super smash" attack should be PK Starstorm. Like Ness, he could also utilize yo-yos in his moveset, but he can also use slingshots as well. There is one thing that would make Poo especially unique- he has the ability to transform, but unlike Kirby, he can copy ALL his opponents' powers for a few moments (see the link to the moveset). Another thing that could be unique would be how the food items (if they return) would affect him. As it states in Wikipedia, he follows a strict diet and therefore can't recover much health from western food items such as hamburgers and pizza; however, eastern food items such as tempura or sushi recover his health pretty well. Hey, that could be a new idea for a thread- will characters have certain stats on how food affects them?- like eating tomatoes (his fave food, according to Wikipedia), for instance, lets Kirby heal 7-8%, but eating marshmallows, for example (puffy foods= CANNIBALISM!), only lets him recover 2-3%. Sorry, getting off topic. Anyways, Poo has a lot of interesting traits in Earthbound that could be fun to implement in Brawl, and if he gets in the game, I would like to see how they are utilized. And his totally awesome "home-field" would be Dalaam- after all, he's the prince there!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=89332&highlight=Earthbound
KING DEDEDE
(First Appearance: Kirby's Dream Land, 1992)
REASONING: Sakurai is the father of Brawl. He's also the father of Dedede... and Kirby... and Meta Knight... and the series to boot. Dedede's really got some luck going for him. In my opinion, he's practically confirmed. He possesses similar abilities of Kirby, which could be implemented in his moveset, and could also have hammer techniques implemented... looks like the Ice Climbers have a new training partner! He has one of the biggest roles in almost every Kirby game, so importance comes easy for him. Despite being labeled as a villain, he's also helped out Kirby once or twice to defeat the 'true final boss'. Basically, this King could be described as a "villain with a heart of gold". Also ranked #1 on Sakurai's poll for Brawl, it's clear he's very popular. As a heavy-weight floater, he'd be another instance of having unique traits for his weight- like Captain Falcon being the fastest of all heavyweights (and characters) in Melee, or Mewtwo having a pathetic endurance. Not only do I want Dedede in, I know he'll be in. Just PLEASE find him a better voice actor when Brawl comes to America!! The Texan accent 4Kids gave him on the TV show makes my ears bleed- I can't stand it!!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=75639&highlight=Dedede
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=74146
DEOXYS
(First Appearance: Poke'mon Ruby & Sapphire, 2002-03)
REASONING: Pichu is more than likely leaving. The third generation of Poke'mon could use some rep in Brawl. Enter Deoxys- the solution to both. Various Poke'mon have been suggested for Brawl- Deoxys, Blaziken, Lucario, Dragonite, Meowth, Gengar, and even irrelevant characters such as Paras or Diglett to name but a few. Among those characters, Deoxys, Lucario, Meowth, and Dragonite are the best suggestions (IMO), and among them, the best choice is Deoxys. What do Meowth, Jigglypuff, and Pikachu all have in common? They are- or were- stars in the anime. What do Deoxys, Pikachu, Pichu, Lucario, and Mewtwo have in common? They have all starred in their own movie or mini-movies. What do Deoxys, Dragonite, and Mewtwo have in common? They are major characters in the game- Dragonite is the main Poke'mon of Lance, the final member of the Elite Four, and Mewtwo & Deoxys are legendaries. If we tried to view the suggested newcomers as a venn diagram, which character overlaps the points of importance? Deoxys. The ability to shift into different forms depending on strategy (speed, attack, or defense) would be something interesting to develop a moveset for but also challenging to develop weaknesses for, as with such a mix of stats, Deoxys could become the next god-tier character.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=76538
LYNDIS "LYN"
(First Appearance: Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken (Sword of Fire), 2003)
REASONING: More Fire Emblem rep (GBA FE AND American FE rep to boot), another female character, her fanbase is pretty big, and she'd be another swordsman, but her wielding style is unique. Plus she can wield a bow and she's swift like Marth. Nuff said.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72677
SOTHE
(First Appearance: Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki (Path of Radiance), 2005)
REASONING: I don't want BOTH characters in from the Wii Fire Emblem... I only want one or the other. Sothe could be cool- wielding daggers, a Fire Emblem rep, and a Wii generation character. As a thief, he'd more than likely be very fast... and he might even have an attack that-when done in close range such as Rest (Jigglypuff)- steals an item from an opponent. Go on, Sothe! Steal the spotlight for more FE rep!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=95513
MIKAYA
(First Appearance: Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami (Goddess of Dawn), 2007)
REASONING: I don't want BOTH characters in from the Wii Fire Emblem... I only want one or the other. Buuuut.... I'm leaning more towards Mikaya here, mainly because she's a female (we need more girls in Smash) and a magic user- we've only got one or two of those. Perhaps her falcon can give her a hand in a tight spot.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=1795140
KRYSTAL
(First Appearance: Starfox Adventures, 2002)
REASONING: Finally, Starfox has given us a major female character that's actually playable in the games. Krystal is a telepath. She's familiar with the super-fancy high-tech weaponry found in Starfox and other such futuristic games. Not to mention she's got that totally awesome staff from the equally awesome game Starfox Adventures. Preferably, the majority of her moveset would be based off of using said staff. There's no other staff-wielders in Brawl, and gamers familiar with SF Adv.- myself being one of them- could easily tell you her staff is PACKED with excellent weaponry. Rocket boosting. Shooting flames. Icy mist. Ground slamming. And your typical slash and bash. When pressing the correct buttons in the game, Fox could perform unique combos and block with the staff- and Krystal probably knows even more moves with it than he does! Plus, add on the fact that Falco might get an Assault-based Luigified moveset, and then there's the fact that there's another SF character I (and most other people) want for Brawl...
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72178
WOLF
(First Appearance: Starfox 64, 1997)
REASONING: He's Fox's rival! He's been around longer than Krystal! And Starfox needs more rep! DING DING DING, WE HAVE A WINNER! Despite a close resemblance to Fox, he could be given a unique moveset, as xianfeng has emphasized. And he kicks Andross's butt for villain rep anyday... >_<
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72210
RIDLEY
(First Appearance: Metroid, 1987)
REASONING: Look at his body shape... a "space dragon"! That would certainly be unique. Then there's the stupid rumor... at least he's the most believable out of the "zomg newcomers". Once again, he's also an antagonist to Samus... their close ties could also work to his advantage, considering he's been a big part of the Metroid series since the beginning. And as stated before, his unique form as a fighter obviously gives him a very unique moveset to design. You'll see about three or four movesets if you click the link below.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=1404730
BALLOON FIGHTER
(First Appearance: Balloon Fight, 1984)
REASONING: Sakurai loves his retro characters, that he does. Did you know Balloon Fighter was in the beta version of Melee? Umm... I guess the uniqueness and retro style would be his reasoning to get in Brawl... he's just one of those characters that 'you want but you can't explain why'. I enjoyed the simulated NES game for the Gamecube (Animal Crossing), that's for sure.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=71961
THIRD PARTY CHARACTERS
Okay, now what about those characters from the outside looking in? Snake's already puffing a cigarette in their faces, so let's pull in a few more.
JACK
(First Appearance: Harvest Moon, 1996)
Company: Natsume
REASONING: I wasn't sure at first if he would be considered a 3rd-party or not, as almost every single Harvest Moon game has been released for Nintendo, except for Save the Homeland (PS2, and the game sucked, btw.) and a special re-release of A Wonderful Life for PS2 (previously Gamecube only). He'd definitely be a unique character with a unique set of moves fresh from the farm. A pitchfork jab here, and a slam from the shovel there, maybe a cow stampede would come to Jack's rescue as his super smash... or he'd start trying to convince any female opponents to marry him. XD
Sorry! I'm still looking for a moveset!
GENO
(First Appearance: Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, 1996)
Company: Square, known as Square-Enix present-day.
REASONING: McFox made an INCREDIBLE moveset for this guy. If you don't believe me, go check out the Geno thread yourself later. I never did get to play the RPG, unfortunately, but I can guarantee that once it becomes downloadable for the Wii, I'm going to check it out. Just check out the moveset, that's all the convincing you need.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72298
DR. DEREK STILES
(First Appearance: Trauma Center: Under the Knife, 2005)
Company: Atlus
REASONING: Atlus and Nintendo are actually fairly close companies, releasing many titles for Nintendo systems. So, now that Brawl is in the works, shall we perhaps take this close relation into consideration? I definitely think Atlus would be interested in having a representative for this game. Dr. Mario is as good as gone. So, why not introduce a non-clonable character as the new medic? Dr. Stiles is one of the newest game characters out on the market, and this could seriously boost his popularity.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=81201
NOW WE ENTER PART TWO OF THE WISHLIST...
THE CHARACTERS THAT I WISH WILL NOT BE IN BRAWL! (no pictures here, sorry. Not like we want to look at the characters anyway...)
Master Chief... Xbox! Microsoft! Never been on a Nintendo console! Not going to work! Exclamation points for emphasis!!Shadow/Knuckles/Tails... Sorry... Sonic's the only Sega rep we need. And Shadow is just lame.
Final Fantasy Characters... Just give Geno the Square rep... and the biggest FF characters (Cloud, Vincent Valentine, etc.) haven't even been on a Nintendo console.
Identities of characters- Blood Falcon, Baby Peach, Fierce Deity Link, FLUDD Mario, Dark Samus, Cel-Shaded Link, Vacuum Luigi, etc... We don't need more than one identity per character!
Really Minor/Irrelevant Characters- Kamek, Tingle, Shy Guys, Goombas, Waddle Dee, Gengar, Charizard, Gorons, etc.... They're not really important, they're not physically capable of fighting, or we don't know enough about them to give them any decent movesets for Brawl.
Just plain stupid suggestions- Chuck Norris, Jesus, Wolverine, the Powerpuff Girls, etc.... Please ban the noobs and spammers that make such stupid suggestions. No offense to Jesus or Mr. Norris.
AND THE CHARACTER I HATE MOST OF ALL!!
(McFox created the image, not me! All credit goes to him!)
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BLAZIKEN!! Taken from the thread, "The WORST character for Brawl" (quite fittingly), here are five reasons most people want Blaziken in Brawl... and my five arguments against them.
1)"OMFGZORZ H3 I5 T3H M057 PWNAGE CAHRATCER 3V3r!11!!!!1!111!! H3 I5 2 C00l!!!1!!!11111!!"
.... Come on, he's not really THAT cool. The newbies that want him in b/c he "looks cool" are typically the same 11-year-old Halo fanboys that want Master Chief in as well. What's so great about a hairy, red chicken with martial arts knowledge and pyrotechnics?
2) "But he's an important character in the series!"
True, he's the evolved form of Torchic, one of the starters in R/S/E. But so were Treecko and Mudkip. That makes them equally important too. Anime-wise, yes, he was the main Poke'mon of Haruka/May. But Ash/Satoshi owned Sceptile, and he's more important than her- even if Sceptile got less screen time. And Brock/Takeshi has a Marshtomp and he's clearly more important than Haruka/May if he's been around for more seasons- even if Marshtomp didn't fully evolve and has also had less screentime than both Blaziken and Sceptile.
~~~In addition, we don't really need too many more Poke'mon for Brawl- maybe just one more to replace Pichu. If anything, the more human-like Poke'mon considered legendary and/or important enough to get their own movie have the best shots of getting in. Mewtwo (Almost put in SSB, was in Melee, status unknown for Brawl), Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, and Lucario are some examples- but I'd stick with Deoxys and a returning Mewtwo for Brawl.
3) "Come on, he's a totally deserving starter Poke'mon!"
No he isn't! What happened to Charizard, Venusaur, Blastoise, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Meganium, Sceptile, Swampert, and the other starters (Can't think of the names) from D/P? There are many retro trainers and newer trainers that would want to see their prized Poke'mon make it into Brawl. No matter what generation, if one starter got in, then the other two would have to be in as well, and that would be too much trouble to go through- especially for the ones that stand on all-fours, such as Venusaur and Meganium.
4) "Well, he's the strongest and most popular of the Ruby starters!"
Absolutely not! If you were to compare the types of Poke'mon used by Gym Leaders and the Elite Four to the types of the three starters- Torchic/Combusken/Blaziken (Fire/Fighting), Treecko/Grovyle/Sceptile (Grass), and Mudkip/Marshtomp/Swampert (Water/Ground)- you would actually find that Torchic was the WEAKEST of the starters. Mudkip is actually the STRONGEST of the three. I'm pretty sure Mudkip wins in popularity too, but I think Torchic is second. No one likes the ugly Wood Gecko Poke'mon.
5) "But if he was in Brawl, he'd be a totally unique fighter!"
*sigh* Here's the third time I've made this argument- what type of Poke'mon is Blaziken? Mainly fire, yes? Now juxtapose the roster of Melee for the debate- Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Captain Falcon, Falco, Fox, Ness, Kirby, Samus, Zelda, Sheik, Link, Young Link, Jigglypuff, Mr. Game & Watch, and Roy all have fire worked into their moveset in some way, shape, or form (such as explosions or bombs). And if you count the dark purple fire- then throw in Ganondorf and Mewtwo to that list. Oh but wait, he's a fist fighter too- so he also shares in common with Doc, DK, and pretty much the other fire-users. So, I'm certain he'll look unique amidst Yoshi, the Ice Climbers, Pichu, Pikachu, and Marth.
Oh yeah, any other character I left out, I have no opinion on whether or not they get in or not. Some of them I know will get in- such as Sonic- but I do have characters I prefer over Sonic. I did have a list written down on paper for who I "wanted in Brawl, but didn't have a chance", but someone threw it away accidentally. So those characters- such as Swampert, Medeus, and Klonoa- were excluded from my list.
Why did I make this list?
To let my opinion be heard, of course! Also because about 95% of the users on here are male... so just you'd like to see a female's opinion on Brawl. And to prove that newer members don't always make lame lists.
Thank you for taking your time to view my opinions, and remember: constructive criticism is always preferred over "ur list sux dont ever make 1 again."
EDIT: Forgot Luigi previously, so I added him to the "I Know Will Return" list. Thanks again, TJK1997!
Although I am still relatively new to this forum (I've been here about nine months), I figured I would make my very own wishlist for Brawl, and include my reasonings as well. I plan to divide it into a few sections for easier classification based on chances of getting in and on my preferences. Anyways, without further ado...
bijoukaiba's Wishlist for Brawl
Returning Characters
CONFIRMED
Mario (no, DUH!!)
Link (he looks totally awesome TP style!)
Samus
Kirby
Pikachu (totally kawaii! ^_^)
Fox (I'm not too fond of his Command look... maybe his Assault/Adventures/Melee styles will be alternate costumes...)
SEMI-CONFIRMED
Yoshi (a stage in the new trailer resembles Yoshi's Island)
Donkey Kong (Didn't really find any proof for him in the trailer, but everyone has him listed as semi-confirmed. And besides, he's DK!)
CHARACTERS I WANT TO, OR I KNOW WILL, RETURN ( An asterisk * means I especially want their return!)
Luigi (thanks for the catch, TJK1997 ^_^)
Bowser
Peach (actually, I don't really have an opinion about her... but she's definitely returning.)
****Captain Falcon (OMFG, YES! So what if the Mario Kart stage resembles Mute City? This bounty hunter is NOT going anywhere!)
Ganondorf
Falco
**Ness (Don't even mention Lucas in this psychic kid's presence!)
*Ice Climbers (Totally awesome old-schoolers, a set of unique fighters, and I am DYING to laugh in the faces of the noobs who believed the rumor! I think it would be great IF Sakurai himself officially states on the Nintendo website that the rumor is false AND that it is confirmed the ICs and GAW will be returning!)
Zelda
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo (He just requires some tweakage is all.)
*Mr. Game and Watch (See argument for Ice Climbers. I shall laugh in the faces of the noobs! LAUGH!)
*****Marth (Do you KNOW how many tournament players and rabid fangirls would protest and petition Nintendo if he got removed?! Oh, and he's also my main.
)CHARACTERS I WANT TO RETURN.... BUT PROBABLY/POSSIBLY WON'T.
*Roy (he COULD be given a unique moveset... but he was just an advertisement and wasn't too popular with serious players. I still hope he returns though...)
Sheik (I don't have an opinion about her, but she could still possibly leave)
CHARACTERS I WANT TO THROW OUT THE WINDOW... BUT WILL ACT LIKE A BOOMERANG AND MORE THAN LIKELY RETURN. >_<
Young Link (He could possibly be returning in his cel-shaded form... he could easily be given a unique moveset too.)
CHARACTERS THAT WILL PROBABLY BE HITCH-HIKING A TAXI TO LAS VEGAS, NEVER TO BE HEARD FROM AGAIN
Pichu (I DO like her as a Poke'mon... just not as a fighter.)
Doctor Mario (all the smashers and most of the players are eating their apples to keep this doctor away)
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Now, we enter the area that most people anticipate... who do I, as a gamer, want to appear in Brawl that hasn't been in SSB/M before? Which Nintendo characters are most deserving? THIS IS MERELY MY OPINION!!
Newcomers
CONFIRMED
Meta-Knight (Dying to try out his aerials and grab/throw attacks)
Pit (Eeee, he looks so much fun!!)
Zero-Suit Samus (sort of a "semi-newcomer", as a transformation of Samus. When Captain Falcon gets confirmed, I'm using his B-Up on her immediately. XD She's very pretty. :3)
Wario (Oh, the laughs I'm gonna have...)
Snake (I don't even know what to say...)
UNCONFIRMED / ACTUAL WISHLIST
SAMURAI GOROH
(First Appearance: F-Zero, 1991)
REASONING: OVERALL, HE IS MY NUMBER ONE PICK AMONGST ALL NEWCOMERS! His moveset would be easy to design, more than likely being semi-fist-fighting and semi-swordsmanship. He would also be a heavyweight swordsman, possibly alongside a Ganondorf with a revamped moveset. He has a long history of gaming, dating back to the very first F-Zero game as one of only four racers (alongside Pico, Dr. Stewart, and good ol' Captain Falcon), and has appeared in almost every single F-Zero game to date (I think he was only excluded from one... but the same thing happened to Captain Falcon too!). As Captain Falcon's greatest rival- both in racing and bounty hunting- he clearly has a massive importance to the series. A lot of information was revealed about him in F-Zero GX. We could also use a few more villain/rival characters in Smash. When he was glimpsed briefly in the trailer for Melee, some people got fairly excited about more F-Zero rep... only to have their hopes dramatically crushed, dun-dun-dun! Nintendo was totally teasing us! I think this time, we're going to definitely have more F-Zero rep, and Goroh is by far the best choice for the job. If Jody Summers, Doctor Stewart, Ryu Suzaku (Rick Wheeler), Black Shadow, Mr. EAD (WTF? Just kidding.
) or Deathborn or any combination of the afore mentioned characters get in over Samurai Goroh, I will be extremely upset... or I'll just be having a bad dream (Wake up!). Yes, I play F-Zero (although I'm not that good...), I've seen episodes of the anime (loved the music!!), and I've read the story and guide for the game. When I plug in SSBB, I'm going to play "Butterfly", a song from DDR, and sing along with my own "tweaked" lyrics. "I've been searching for a man all across Japan, just to find, to find my Samurai (Goroh)."http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=74893&highlight=Samurai+Goroh
DIDDY KONG
(First Appearance: Donkey Kong Country, 1994)
REASONING: I believe when some person made a comment about "Character X" being a shoo-in for Brawl, one of the mods had made a comment that Wario was also a shoo-in for Melee but didn't make it in. I believe Diddy's case is exactly the same as Wario's case- he's been deserving a spot in Smash since SSB. Just as Luigi and Yoshi are to Mario and Navi and Midna are to Link, Diddy is to Donkey Kong. Diddy was given multiple weapons/fighting techniques that could easily- almost easy enough for a 10 year old to make a moveset- be implemented in Brawl. Donkey Kong Country was a great source of inspiration. And hey, DK's gotta have some more rep on his side too, right? What better place to look than his own sidekick/nephew?
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=71535
CAPTAIN OLIMAR
(First Appearance: Pikmin, 2001)
REASONING: Well, we've gotta include some Gamecube-generation characters! Olimar is a character from a unique series known as Pikmin. He would be an interesting character to craft, considering he's only the size of a quarter according to the guidebook and he has so many Pikmin at his disposal. Before someone asks, yes he can be made taller. Pikachu is supposed to be 1'4", but he's as tall as Ness in Melee! If you haven't purchased the game, then shame on you. This game could definitely be created into a multi-adventure series, especially considering the fact there was a Pikmin 2 released a little over two years ago. IF the series DOES continue, and IF a "Pikmin 3" IS released on the Wii, then Olimar's chances will definitely increase. Maybe from the size of a quarter to the size of an eleven year old boy as tall as a 1'4" electric mouse. If he is put into Brawl, I intend to make him one of my secondaries, if not one of my mains.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=71336&highlight=olimar
POO/PU
(First Appearance: Earthbound: Mother 2, 1994-95.)
REASONING:Just like the Donkey Kong and F-Zero series, Earthbound could also use a boost in rep. Several people have suggested Lucas for Brawl, but based on his moveset in Mother 3 he would be almost the same as Ness, whether put in as his own character or *shudders* a Ness replacement. Now, let's take the case of Poo. He also uses PSI, but has taken strict martial arts training as well. He could serve as both a PK fighter and a karate kid. A true Earthbound fan would probably agree when I say his special "super smash" attack should be PK Starstorm. Like Ness, he could also utilize yo-yos in his moveset, but he can also use slingshots as well. There is one thing that would make Poo especially unique- he has the ability to transform, but unlike Kirby, he can copy ALL his opponents' powers for a few moments (see the link to the moveset). Another thing that could be unique would be how the food items (if they return) would affect him. As it states in Wikipedia, he follows a strict diet and therefore can't recover much health from western food items such as hamburgers and pizza; however, eastern food items such as tempura or sushi recover his health pretty well. Hey, that could be a new idea for a thread- will characters have certain stats on how food affects them?- like eating tomatoes (his fave food, according to Wikipedia), for instance, lets Kirby heal 7-8%, but eating marshmallows, for example (puffy foods= CANNIBALISM!), only lets him recover 2-3%. Sorry, getting off topic. Anyways, Poo has a lot of interesting traits in Earthbound that could be fun to implement in Brawl, and if he gets in the game, I would like to see how they are utilized. And his totally awesome "home-field" would be Dalaam- after all, he's the prince there!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=89332&highlight=Earthbound
KING DEDEDE
(First Appearance: Kirby's Dream Land, 1992)
REASONING: Sakurai is the father of Brawl. He's also the father of Dedede... and Kirby... and Meta Knight... and the series to boot. Dedede's really got some luck going for him. In my opinion, he's practically confirmed. He possesses similar abilities of Kirby, which could be implemented in his moveset, and could also have hammer techniques implemented... looks like the Ice Climbers have a new training partner! He has one of the biggest roles in almost every Kirby game, so importance comes easy for him. Despite being labeled as a villain, he's also helped out Kirby once or twice to defeat the 'true final boss'. Basically, this King could be described as a "villain with a heart of gold". Also ranked #1 on Sakurai's poll for Brawl, it's clear he's very popular. As a heavy-weight floater, he'd be another instance of having unique traits for his weight- like Captain Falcon being the fastest of all heavyweights (and characters) in Melee, or Mewtwo having a pathetic endurance. Not only do I want Dedede in, I know he'll be in. Just PLEASE find him a better voice actor when Brawl comes to America!! The Texan accent 4Kids gave him on the TV show makes my ears bleed- I can't stand it!!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=75639&highlight=Dedede
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=74146
DEOXYS
(First Appearance: Poke'mon Ruby & Sapphire, 2002-03)
REASONING: Pichu is more than likely leaving. The third generation of Poke'mon could use some rep in Brawl. Enter Deoxys- the solution to both. Various Poke'mon have been suggested for Brawl- Deoxys, Blaziken, Lucario, Dragonite, Meowth, Gengar, and even irrelevant characters such as Paras or Diglett to name but a few. Among those characters, Deoxys, Lucario, Meowth, and Dragonite are the best suggestions (IMO), and among them, the best choice is Deoxys. What do Meowth, Jigglypuff, and Pikachu all have in common? They are- or were- stars in the anime. What do Deoxys, Pikachu, Pichu, Lucario, and Mewtwo have in common? They have all starred in their own movie or mini-movies. What do Deoxys, Dragonite, and Mewtwo have in common? They are major characters in the game- Dragonite is the main Poke'mon of Lance, the final member of the Elite Four, and Mewtwo & Deoxys are legendaries. If we tried to view the suggested newcomers as a venn diagram, which character overlaps the points of importance? Deoxys. The ability to shift into different forms depending on strategy (speed, attack, or defense) would be something interesting to develop a moveset for but also challenging to develop weaknesses for, as with such a mix of stats, Deoxys could become the next god-tier character.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=76538
LYNDIS "LYN"
(First Appearance: Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken (Sword of Fire), 2003)
REASONING: More Fire Emblem rep (GBA FE AND American FE rep to boot), another female character, her fanbase is pretty big, and she'd be another swordsman, but her wielding style is unique. Plus she can wield a bow and she's swift like Marth. Nuff said.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72677
SOTHE
(First Appearance: Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki (Path of Radiance), 2005)
REASONING: I don't want BOTH characters in from the Wii Fire Emblem... I only want one or the other. Sothe could be cool- wielding daggers, a Fire Emblem rep, and a Wii generation character. As a thief, he'd more than likely be very fast... and he might even have an attack that-when done in close range such as Rest (Jigglypuff)- steals an item from an opponent. Go on, Sothe! Steal the spotlight for more FE rep!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=95513
MIKAYA
(First Appearance: Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami (Goddess of Dawn), 2007)
REASONING: I don't want BOTH characters in from the Wii Fire Emblem... I only want one or the other. Buuuut.... I'm leaning more towards Mikaya here, mainly because she's a female (we need more girls in Smash) and a magic user- we've only got one or two of those. Perhaps her falcon can give her a hand in a tight spot.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=1795140
KRYSTAL
(First Appearance: Starfox Adventures, 2002)
REASONING: Finally, Starfox has given us a major female character that's actually playable in the games. Krystal is a telepath. She's familiar with the super-fancy high-tech weaponry found in Starfox and other such futuristic games. Not to mention she's got that totally awesome staff from the equally awesome game Starfox Adventures. Preferably, the majority of her moveset would be based off of using said staff. There's no other staff-wielders in Brawl, and gamers familiar with SF Adv.- myself being one of them- could easily tell you her staff is PACKED with excellent weaponry. Rocket boosting. Shooting flames. Icy mist. Ground slamming. And your typical slash and bash. When pressing the correct buttons in the game, Fox could perform unique combos and block with the staff- and Krystal probably knows even more moves with it than he does! Plus, add on the fact that Falco might get an Assault-based Luigified moveset, and then there's the fact that there's another SF character I (and most other people) want for Brawl...
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72178
WOLF
(First Appearance: Starfox 64, 1997)
REASONING: He's Fox's rival! He's been around longer than Krystal! And Starfox needs more rep! DING DING DING, WE HAVE A WINNER! Despite a close resemblance to Fox, he could be given a unique moveset, as xianfeng has emphasized. And he kicks Andross's butt for villain rep anyday... >_<
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72210
RIDLEY
(First Appearance: Metroid, 1987)
REASONING: Look at his body shape... a "space dragon"! That would certainly be unique. Then there's the stupid rumor... at least he's the most believable out of the "zomg newcomers". Once again, he's also an antagonist to Samus... their close ties could also work to his advantage, considering he's been a big part of the Metroid series since the beginning. And as stated before, his unique form as a fighter obviously gives him a very unique moveset to design. You'll see about three or four movesets if you click the link below.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=1404730
BALLOON FIGHTER
(First Appearance: Balloon Fight, 1984)
REASONING: Sakurai loves his retro characters, that he does. Did you know Balloon Fighter was in the beta version of Melee? Umm... I guess the uniqueness and retro style would be his reasoning to get in Brawl... he's just one of those characters that 'you want but you can't explain why'. I enjoyed the simulated NES game for the Gamecube (Animal Crossing), that's for sure.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=71961
THIRD PARTY CHARACTERS
Okay, now what about those characters from the outside looking in? Snake's already puffing a cigarette in their faces, so let's pull in a few more.
JACK
(First Appearance: Harvest Moon, 1996)
Company: Natsume
REASONING: I wasn't sure at first if he would be considered a 3rd-party or not, as almost every single Harvest Moon game has been released for Nintendo, except for Save the Homeland (PS2, and the game sucked, btw.) and a special re-release of A Wonderful Life for PS2 (previously Gamecube only). He'd definitely be a unique character with a unique set of moves fresh from the farm. A pitchfork jab here, and a slam from the shovel there, maybe a cow stampede would come to Jack's rescue as his super smash... or he'd start trying to convince any female opponents to marry him. XD
Sorry! I'm still looking for a moveset!
GENO
(First Appearance: Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, 1996)
Company: Square, known as Square-Enix present-day.
REASONING: McFox made an INCREDIBLE moveset for this guy. If you don't believe me, go check out the Geno thread yourself later. I never did get to play the RPG, unfortunately, but I can guarantee that once it becomes downloadable for the Wii, I'm going to check it out. Just check out the moveset, that's all the convincing you need.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72298
DR. DEREK STILES
(First Appearance: Trauma Center: Under the Knife, 2005)
Company: Atlus
REASONING: Atlus and Nintendo are actually fairly close companies, releasing many titles for Nintendo systems. So, now that Brawl is in the works, shall we perhaps take this close relation into consideration? I definitely think Atlus would be interested in having a representative for this game. Dr. Mario is as good as gone. So, why not introduce a non-clonable character as the new medic? Dr. Stiles is one of the newest game characters out on the market, and this could seriously boost his popularity.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=81201
NOW WE ENTER PART TWO OF THE WISHLIST...
THE CHARACTERS THAT I WISH WILL NOT BE IN BRAWL! (no pictures here, sorry. Not like we want to look at the characters anyway...)
Master Chief... Xbox! Microsoft! Never been on a Nintendo console! Not going to work! Exclamation points for emphasis!!Shadow/Knuckles/Tails... Sorry... Sonic's the only Sega rep we need. And Shadow is just lame.
Final Fantasy Characters... Just give Geno the Square rep... and the biggest FF characters (Cloud, Vincent Valentine, etc.) haven't even been on a Nintendo console.
Identities of characters- Blood Falcon, Baby Peach, Fierce Deity Link, FLUDD Mario, Dark Samus, Cel-Shaded Link, Vacuum Luigi, etc... We don't need more than one identity per character!
Really Minor/Irrelevant Characters- Kamek, Tingle, Shy Guys, Goombas, Waddle Dee, Gengar, Charizard, Gorons, etc.... They're not really important, they're not physically capable of fighting, or we don't know enough about them to give them any decent movesets for Brawl.
Just plain stupid suggestions- Chuck Norris, Jesus, Wolverine, the Powerpuff Girls, etc.... Please ban the noobs and spammers that make such stupid suggestions. No offense to Jesus or Mr. Norris.
AND THE CHARACTER I HATE MOST OF ALL!!
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BLAZIKEN!! Taken from the thread, "The WORST character for Brawl" (quite fittingly), here are five reasons most people want Blaziken in Brawl... and my five arguments against them.
1)"OMFGZORZ H3 I5 T3H M057 PWNAGE CAHRATCER 3V3r!11!!!!1!111!! H3 I5 2 C00l!!!1!!!11111!!"
.... Come on, he's not really THAT cool. The newbies that want him in b/c he "looks cool" are typically the same 11-year-old Halo fanboys that want Master Chief in as well. What's so great about a hairy, red chicken with martial arts knowledge and pyrotechnics?
2) "But he's an important character in the series!"
True, he's the evolved form of Torchic, one of the starters in R/S/E. But so were Treecko and Mudkip. That makes them equally important too. Anime-wise, yes, he was the main Poke'mon of Haruka/May. But Ash/Satoshi owned Sceptile, and he's more important than her- even if Sceptile got less screen time. And Brock/Takeshi has a Marshtomp and he's clearly more important than Haruka/May if he's been around for more seasons- even if Marshtomp didn't fully evolve and has also had less screentime than both Blaziken and Sceptile.
~~~In addition, we don't really need too many more Poke'mon for Brawl- maybe just one more to replace Pichu. If anything, the more human-like Poke'mon considered legendary and/or important enough to get their own movie have the best shots of getting in. Mewtwo (Almost put in SSB, was in Melee, status unknown for Brawl), Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, and Lucario are some examples- but I'd stick with Deoxys and a returning Mewtwo for Brawl.
3) "Come on, he's a totally deserving starter Poke'mon!"
No he isn't! What happened to Charizard, Venusaur, Blastoise, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Meganium, Sceptile, Swampert, and the other starters (Can't think of the names) from D/P? There are many retro trainers and newer trainers that would want to see their prized Poke'mon make it into Brawl. No matter what generation, if one starter got in, then the other two would have to be in as well, and that would be too much trouble to go through- especially for the ones that stand on all-fours, such as Venusaur and Meganium.
4) "Well, he's the strongest and most popular of the Ruby starters!"
Absolutely not! If you were to compare the types of Poke'mon used by Gym Leaders and the Elite Four to the types of the three starters- Torchic/Combusken/Blaziken (Fire/Fighting), Treecko/Grovyle/Sceptile (Grass), and Mudkip/Marshtomp/Swampert (Water/Ground)- you would actually find that Torchic was the WEAKEST of the starters. Mudkip is actually the STRONGEST of the three. I'm pretty sure Mudkip wins in popularity too, but I think Torchic is second. No one likes the ugly Wood Gecko Poke'mon.
5) "But if he was in Brawl, he'd be a totally unique fighter!"
*sigh* Here's the third time I've made this argument- what type of Poke'mon is Blaziken? Mainly fire, yes? Now juxtapose the roster of Melee for the debate- Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Captain Falcon, Falco, Fox, Ness, Kirby, Samus, Zelda, Sheik, Link, Young Link, Jigglypuff, Mr. Game & Watch, and Roy all have fire worked into their moveset in some way, shape, or form (such as explosions or bombs). And if you count the dark purple fire- then throw in Ganondorf and Mewtwo to that list. Oh but wait, he's a fist fighter too- so he also shares in common with Doc, DK, and pretty much the other fire-users. So, I'm certain he'll look unique amidst Yoshi, the Ice Climbers, Pichu, Pikachu, and Marth.
Oh yeah, any other character I left out, I have no opinion on whether or not they get in or not. Some of them I know will get in- such as Sonic- but I do have characters I prefer over Sonic. I did have a list written down on paper for who I "wanted in Brawl, but didn't have a chance", but someone threw it away accidentally. So those characters- such as Swampert, Medeus, and Klonoa- were excluded from my list.
Why did I make this list?
To let my opinion be heard, of course! Also because about 95% of the users on here are male... so just you'd like to see a female's opinion on Brawl.
And to prove that newer members don't always make lame lists.Thank you for taking your time to view my opinions, and remember: constructive criticism is always preferred over "ur list sux dont ever make 1 again."
EDIT: Forgot Luigi previously, so I added him to the "I Know Will Return" list. Thanks again, TJK1997!
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