Beyond the limits- "Tight match tips" (say that 10 times fast)

[yoshq]

The guy beat me by spamming luigi tornado in lag, coupled with the fact that i cant time a dtilt in lag to stop it or a dolphin slash... or really bnothing cause i suck at wi-fi... really wi-fi is trash period... play real marths in real tournaments around you lol.

i did, i just said i beat a marth at genesis man.

 

[iDeo]

Even though I'm a Diddy main, I would like to know how I should approach Diddy if I'm playing Lui. I could say I can beat some1 who plays Diddy b/c I main, but that is easier said than done.

So how should a Lui player go about playing him against Diddy?

 

[yoshq]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkWvamP5Fps&fmt=18
please don't flame me.......

 

[BigLøu]

Not gonna really flame buttt....

that marth is using more then the 3 moves needed to **** luigi.

marths that know the matchup will just sit back and bair luigi then fair...over and over and over again.

side-b- just a good move in general, ***** his dodges.

and..fsmash- unles lugii powershields marth cant be punished.

 

[yoshq]

Not gonna really flame buttt....

that marth is using more then the 3 moves needed to **** luigi.

marths that know the matchup will just sit back and bair luigi then fair...over and over and over again.

side-b- just a good move in general, ***** his dodges.

and..fsmash- unles lugii powershields marth cant be punished.

none of the marths i've played knew the matchup, except this one actually. he spiked my jump tornado recovery perfectly, and up b during my jab combo. but the point is idk how much it matters what the marth that knws the matchup will do since none except this one that I've fought have so far.

 

[hippiedude92]

so play a little NEO. srsly. he probably knows the matchup by now since he always play zhao. just play a little neo. you'll see why its about 7/3 marth THAT KNOW THE MATCHUP.

 

[zhao_guang]

The topic at hand isn't how to beat Marths that don't know the matchup. Most Luigi players can handle those type of Marths. It's also self-explanatory why.

The topic is about how to get in and gain the upper hand in a tight match against one of our hardest matchups with someone who KNOWS the matchup. This is when things get incredibly difficult and this is where we have to dive deep into thought and find the few things that could work in a situation like this.

 

[yoshq]

The topic at hand isn't how to beat Marths that don't know the matchup. Most Luigi players can handle those type of Marths. It's also self-explanatory why.

The topic is about how to get in and gain the upper hand in a tight match against one of our hardest matchups with someone who KNOWS the matchup. This is when things get incredibly difficult and this is where we have to dive deep into thought and find the few things that could work in a situation like this.

oh, ok. if they know the matchup you have to consciously change your playstyle and start doing stuff you wouldn't normally do. just focus on keeping your moves unpredictable. that's what I think.

 

[hippiedude92]

bumped for the greater and good because high level invites you all cus luigi suxs in killing kthx

more productive discussion/ suggestions from anyone would be nice

 

[iDeo]

Another problem I have playin' Lui is fight against projectile fighters like Toon Link.

I'm sure some of us have fought TL's who SH-Nair then neutral b on landing. Basically this keeps in enemies at bay and then tops it off with range attacks making sure u have no approach inside.

Then there are the ones who utilize all the projectiles of TL from bombs to arrows to zair---boost usmash. Man TL give me problems when playing Lui. Bairing only works half the time but that can be ended with by TL bair.

The only way I see fighting TL is to power shield as much as possible so it doesn't shield poke and keep their spacing in tact. Wat you guys think?

 

[hippiedude92]

lol l powershield EVERYTHING. Then l run away once l get inside to mindgame them

lolmindgameswork

 

[iDeo]

Hehe, well it would make sense for a Lui main to power shield everything.

Ya kno hippie you just gave me an idea on how to improve my Diddy as well. I gotta find a wii and fast. XD