Aether_Lord
Smash Apprentice
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What is the best team out there character wise do you people see? i personally think either G&W and Ness or Ike & Marth
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Best team
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HRNUT (Honey Roasted)
Smash Master
G&W and Lucario, Marth and Mario/Pit...anyone with a reflector and a decent projectile.
zamz
Smash Journeyman
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There is no "best" team. Most teams can be made to work. These kinds of matches rely more on cooperation and teamwork than anything else. Both players are better off using their mains, instead of using two characters they're unfamiliar with that are supposed to be "really good" togeather.
That being said, a good team has balance. It has good range, a projectile, a strong ariel game and a character that can quickly rack up damage. Good partners compliment eachother. Probably the worst team you can create would be a dittos team. Work with opposites: try a fast and a slow character, or high damage and strong smash characters.
Other than that, skill and teamwork matter more than the character selected in 2v2. There are too many variables which makes team play entirely different from 1v1 matches, where 1v1 matches depend on the character selected.
That being said, a good team has balance. It has good range, a projectile, a strong ariel game and a character that can quickly rack up damage. Good partners compliment eachother. Probably the worst team you can create would be a dittos team. Work with opposites: try a fast and a slow character, or high damage and strong smash characters.
Other than that, skill and teamwork matter more than the character selected in 2v2. There are too many variables which makes team play entirely different from 1v1 matches, where 1v1 matches depend on the character selected.
Crow!
Smash Lord
I don't think the community has come close enough to determining how all the 1v1 matches shake up to expect to make any headway on 2v2 matchups. Let's do an order of magnitude of complexity estimate:
1v1 has [select one of 35 characters (maybe more depending on how you count)] x [select another] x [however many actions/strategies player 1's character can execute.. somewhere on the order of 20] x [same for player 2] is about 500,000 things to analyze (or at least to be able to guess how the situation would work out).
The "actions" count is probably wrong, and it certainly varies by character, but as long as we stay consitent when we go to 2v2 it should be okay.
In 2v2, we have [(35 choose 2) = 595] teams of characters available. We have approximately squared the number of combinations of "actions" available (it's probably more than that because timing/positioning between the combinations of characters become part of the team's actions). So we have about [595]x[595]x[400]x[400] is on the order of 50,000,000,000 things to consider or at least to be able to guess how it would work out. That's 100,000 times more information to crunch.
So don't expect any sort of absolute "these teams are the best possible teams" analysis to be appearing anytime soon. Work on the intuition of you and your partner to guess at a good team and game plan, and as zamz says, pick characters each player is good at using individually. Any time a 2v2 splits into two 1v1s, you need to be able to stay competitive.
1v1 has [select one of 35 characters (maybe more depending on how you count)] x [select another] x [however many actions/strategies player 1's character can execute.. somewhere on the order of 20] x [same for player 2] is about 500,000 things to analyze (or at least to be able to guess how the situation would work out).
The "actions" count is probably wrong, and it certainly varies by character, but as long as we stay consitent when we go to 2v2 it should be okay.
In 2v2, we have [(35 choose 2) = 595] teams of characters available. We have approximately squared the number of combinations of "actions" available (it's probably more than that because timing/positioning between the combinations of characters become part of the team's actions). So we have about [595]x[595]x[400]x[400] is on the order of 50,000,000,000 things to consider or at least to be able to guess how it would work out. That's 100,000 times more information to crunch.
So don't expect any sort of absolute "these teams are the best possible teams" analysis to be appearing anytime soon. Work on the intuition of you and your partner to guess at a good team and game plan, and as zamz says, pick characters each player is good at using individually. Any time a 2v2 splits into two 1v1s, you need to be able to stay competitive.
Grunt
Smash Master
2 dedede's
everlasting yayuhzz
Smash Champion
Snake/MK. So good.
Kenrawr
Smash Master
This .
Recognize
Smash Journeyman
BigRick
Smash Master
to make the best teams you put the best characters together
∫unk
Smash Master
not always necessarily true, but it seems to work in smash games.
L1M3
Smash Cadet
Double DDD is too good. 
Sudai
Stuff here
If you're fighting characters that don't fall, 2 DDs.
Otherwise, dual random ftw. People won't know wtf's coming at them~ : P
Otherwise, dual random ftw. People won't know wtf's coming at them~ : P
Metal
Smash Cadet
I think they represent a good aspect of Team Matches; actually using your partner instead of just splitting into separate 1v1 fights. Snake sticks MK with a C4 and then has him tag the opponent; MK carries Snake back to the stage with Tornado; Drill Rush right into any of Snake's smashes (MK bounces back at the end); Snake crawling while MK fires a weapon/Dtilt crawling while Snake covers with Nikita. Nothing beats true teamwork (Pummeling while Fox lasers does not count).
siqmonkey
Smash Apprentice
diddy and ike. trip them then kill em with ike.
Megavitamins
Smash Champion
There are like 5 threads of these, search before you make a topic.
Aether_Lord
Smash Apprentice
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Well i did but i did not see one.... iunno if i did a good enough job sorry about it if there were but yeah still didnt find one even used search engine