Best Possible Character

[Cryptic C62]

Here's something I've been pondering for a while: If you could combine moves from different characters to create the perfect moveset, what would you use?

My moveset:

Aerial movement: Pikachu

Jab/Cross: Samus

Dash attack: Yoshi

Usmash: Falcon
Fsmash: Pikachu
Dsmash: Kirby

Utilt: Kirby
Ftilt: Yoshi
Dtilt: Fox

Uair: Falcon
Nair: Kirby
Fair: Falcon
Bair: Fox
Dair: Kirby

Up+B: Pikachu
B: Link
Down+B: Mario

Grabs: DK

 

[Virtual Kruncher]

My moveset:

Aerial movement: Pikachu

Jab/Cross: Pikachu

Dash attack: Pikachu

Usmash: Pikachu
Fsmash: Pikachu
Dsmash: Pikachu

Utilt: Pikachu
Ftilt: Pikachu
Dtilt: Pikachu

Uair: Pikachu
Nair: Pikachu
Bair: Pikachu
Dair: Pikachu

Up+B: Pikachu
B: Pikachu
Down+B: Pikachu

Grabs: Pikachu

Done.

 

[mr yo]

My moveset:

hurtbox: jigly, pika

Aerial movement: fox

Dash: fox

speed: falcon

Heavy: Mario

Speed of knockout: Samus

first jump: pikachu

Second jump: Yoshi (Djc)

Jab/Cross: fox

Dash attack: Yoshi

Usmash: Fox
Fsmash: Pikachu
Dsmash: mario

Utilt: Kirby
Ftilt: Yoshi
Dtilt: Fox

Uair: Falcon
Nair: Kirby
Fair: mario
Bair: Samus
Dair: Kirby

Up+B: Pikachu
B: Link
Down+B: link

Grab and forwar throw: DK
Back throw: Pikachu

it would be call: "Sun of the *****, you noob"


Also, the WORST CHARACTER:

My moveset:

hurtbox: DK

Aerial movement: luigi

Dash: luigi

speed: luigi

Heavy: jiglypuff

Speed of knockout: falcon (i dont know wich one is the slowest)

first jump: fox

Second jump: mario

Jab/Cross: ness

Dash attack: luigi

Usmash: samus
Fsmash: ness
Dsmash: samus

Utilt: samus
Ftilt: jigly/ness
Dtilt: ness

Uair: samus or kirby
Nair: ness
Fair: ness, samus or pika...i dont know
Bair: ness
Dair: luigi

Up+B: jiglypuff
B: pikachu or yoshi
Down+B: ness

Grabs: samus

It would be called: "i cant believe isai 5stocked my pika using that character ¬¬"

 

[kys]

I've always thought it would be cool if someone could hack this game and make a "create a character". As I was thinking about this though, there is another element which you guys have forgotten about. What about the body of the character? I would assume Pika would be ideal overall cuz he's small, but if you wanted Samus' bair, wouldn't you have a pika body with a long Samus robotic appendage??? This would be sweet, someone needs to do this.

 

[MATTS!]

I've always thought it would be cool if someone could hack this game and make a "create a character". As I was thinking about this though, there is another element which you guys have forgotten about. What about the body of the character? I would assume Pika would be ideal overall cuz he's small, but if you wanted Samus' bair, wouldn't you have a pika body with a long Samus robotic appendage??? This would be sweet, someone needs to do this.

It's possible, just like this NOKUBURE guy that's "coding" gameshark codes for stage editors and other stuff. You can disassemble the game and recrete it, or individual change what you want. Just takes awhile to do. LOTS AND LOTS OF coding and bul.lshi.t.

Edit: I was going to add new characters and all sorts of new stages and other stuff into the game, but I just don't have time to do this stuff. I'm a busy guy.


The Great MATTS!

 

[mr yo]

I've always thought it would be cool if someone could hack this game and make a "create a character". As I was thinking about this though, there is another element which you guys have forgotten about. What about the body of the character? I would assume Pika would be ideal overall cuz he's small, but if you wanted Samus' bair, wouldn't you have a pika body with a long Samus robotic appendage??? This would be sweet, someone needs to do this.

the "neutral" hurtbox its a variable among with many others that we are forgetting, its true.


Changing the subject: that "create you on character" wolud be possible but very difficult to do because you have to know that the hurtbox of a character changes with he attacks...and in many times some part or all of it becames inmortal and there are different ways of invulnerability in the ssb...so you have to asume that aa loot of bugs and imporntant glitches would appear when mixing hurtboxes, hitboxes, and graphics...

its possible but i think nobody is going to do it....its way too hard....

but yes, that would be great

 

[MattNF]

Utilt:

Kirby

All other moves:

>implying you need other moves

 

[asianaussie]

Can we combine moves together? Like an U-Tilt with the speed of Kirby's, the range of Link's, the fixed KB quality of Yoshi's and the KB of Ness' at 0%? That would be fun.

 

[ballin4life]

I'm just mad that OP went with the boomerang instead of teh lazerz

 

[Blue Yoshi]

jab: Fox

Dash-attack: Yoshi

F-tilt: Yoshi
U-tilt: Kirby
D-tilt: Fox

F-smash: Kirby (killing)
U-smash: Falcon (comboing)
D-smash: Jigglypuff (edge guarding)

F-air: Link (killing)
U-air: Pikachu (comboing)
D-air: Kirby (comboing/edgeguarding)
B-air: Samus (range, killing)
N-air: Pikachu?

N-Special: Fox (camping)
U-Special: Pikachu (recovering/combo escape)
D-Special: Jigglypuff (fast kill move)

Grab range: DK
F-throw: Falcon (comboing)
B-throw: Ness (killing)

Jumps: Kirby (too many jumps)
Aerial movement: Jigglypuff
Ground movement: Falcon
Character weight: DK
Character hitstun: Jigglypuff
Character size: DK (although character is larger, hitboxes of character are also larger).


That's my realistic best character.



As for my joke character:

Character size: 10X Giant DK
Character weight: 10000000000000000X metal mario
Character move: Kirby's up-tilt

Character will never move since he is so heavy, character up-tilt hitbox covers entire screen, and... well, it's Kirby's up-tilt. Enough said. Star KO every time.

 

[asianaussie]

I would suggest something like Ness's second jump with the invinci of Yoshi's.

Turning in a full dash should be as good as Master Hand.

Physics during hitstun should be like Luigi/Samus, at all other times it should be like Fox.

 

[ciaza]

Captain falcon uair into jiggly rest would be so good. The perfect character would have teleport ability knockback resistance and other techniques like that.

 

[Cryptic C62]

Uber recovery character:

Up+B: Pikachu
B: Jigglypuff
Down+B: Mario
Jumps: Kirby
Aerial movement: Jigglypuff

vs. uber edgeguarding:

Up+B: Pikachu
B: Samus
Down+B: Fox

Dair: Kirby
Fair: Yoshi
Nair: Kirby
Uair: Fox
Bair: Samus

Dsmash: Kirby
Fsmash: Pikachu
Usmash: Pikachu

Epic duel!

 

[NOKAUBURE]

tried 2 times to do this code :/

I can try a 3º time guys I can only find the character model, but is posible that the moves are around

also, B butons cant be changed because:

1- some Up B use proyectiles or custom effects (except mario, luigi, DK, CF)
2- most of the neutral B uses proyectiles or custom effects (except jiggly and DK)
3- some down B uses models, proyectiles or custom effects (except mario, luigi, yoshi, DK)

so, keep this in mind, for example, we cant give any samus or pika B butons to other character

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Hmm... Could you, for example, make Pikachu shoot Mario's Fireballs instead of his thunder jolt? Like, make it so that when a character is supposed to shoot his projectile, make him shoot another projectile instead?

 

[Lordsmash]

Aerial movement: Kirby

Jab/Cross: Fox

Dash attack: Yoshi

Usmash: Mario
Fsmash: DK
Dsmash: Luigi

Utilt: Kirby
Ftilt: Fox
Dtilt: Kirby

Uair: Jigglypuff
Nair: Mario
Fair: Jigglypuff
Bair: Jigglypuff
Dair: Kirby

Up+B: Pikachu
B: Mario
Down+B: Jigglypuff

Grabs: Ness

Weight: Ness

Hight: Pikachu

Taunt: Falcon

Speed: Falcon

Jump: Kirby

Techs: Jigglypuff Teleport


GG

 

[DMoogle]

Jab/Cross: FALCON PUNCH!

Dash attack: FALCON PUNCH!

Usmash: FALCON PUNCH!
Fsmash: FALCON PUNCH!
Dsmash: FALCON PUNCH!

Utilt: FALCON PUNCH!
Ftilt: FALCON PUNCH!
Dtilt: FALCON PUNCH!

Uair: FALCON PUNCH!
Nair: FALCON PUNCH!
Fair: FALCON PUNCH!
Bair: FALCON PUNCH!
Dair: FALCON PUNCH!

Up+B: FALCON PUNCH!
B: SHOW YOUR MOVES!
Down+B: FALCON PUNCH!

Grabs: FALCON PUNCH!

Taunt: DK

 

[Lordsmash]

Jab/Cross: FALCON PUNCH!

Dash attack: FALCON PUNCH!

Usmash: FALCON PUNCH!
Fsmash: FALCON PUNCH!
Dsmash: FALCON PUNCH!

Utilt: FALCON PUNCH!
Ftilt: FALCON PUNCH!
Dtilt: FALCON PUNCH!

Uair: FALCON PUNCH!
Nair: FALCON PUNCH!
Fair: FALCON PUNCH!
Bair: FALCON PUNCH!
Dair: FALCON PUNCH!

Up+B: FALCON PUNCH!
B: SHOW YOUR MOVES!
Down+B: FALCON PUNCH!

Grabs: FALCON PUNCH!

Taunt: DK

*ragequit*

 

[Battlecow]

Some of these are really sketchy. Jiggly's Bair? Kirby's Dsmash? Link's Boomerang is a Maybe, but Mario's down-B is a no.

Here's mine:

Aerial mobility: mario

Jab/Cross: fox

Dash attack: Mario, but without endlag

Usmash: DK's Range, Kirby's speed (Or whoever's fastest) , KB of Ness' Utilt, Samus' Damage
Fsmash: Pikachu's, but with Kirby's speed
Dsmash: Ness (but with more hangtime)

Utilt: Kirby
Ftilt: Falcon (None of them are particularly good)
Dtilt: Kirby, with yoshi's set knockback

Uair: Falcon
Nair: Kirby+Ness
Fair: Falcon's, only 11 of them instead of 2. 1 frame DI window.
Bair: as Kirby's Fair, but behind you. Spikes at the end A la DK's Fair
Dair: Kirby's range, Falcon's weird hitbox, Yoshi's damage, Ness's Spikyness

Up+B: Pikachu, with Luigi Up-B (initial, of course) on anyone whom you touch
B: Falcon (PAAAAWNCH!!!!!!!1)
Down+B: Jigglypuff's, but with a hitbox as disjointed as Pika's Fsmash around your entire body.

Both jumps are like Yoshi's Secondary jump, but with many more invincibility frames. DJC is possible, of course, and Short hop resembles fox's.
Grab range: Samus
Grab speed:DK/Whoever's fastest
Bthrow: DK's fthrow, but without the escapability
Fthrow: Falcon, but with set knockback equivalent to Falcon's throw at 0% (or maybe a bit less)

Taunt: Weegee's, but with a cross of Kirby's and Ness's sounds and the speed and range of Fox's aerial laser combined with the power of a Giant Punch and a Falcon Punch. Can be Taunt-Canceled to great effect.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Best possible character: Meta Knight.

 

[rpotts]

Initial Dash - Fox
Dash - Falcon
Walk- Melee Fox

Can pivot edgehog out of initial dash and full dash

Short Hop - Falcon
Full Hop - Falco

Aerial Movement - Melee Falcon

Nair - Melee Falcon nair
Fair - Knee
Dair - Falco
Uair - Fox
Bair - Fox

Jab - Fox

Dash Attack - Melee Fox

Utilt - Kirby
Ftilt - Sheik
Dtilt - Pikachu

Usmash - Fox
Fsmash - Falco
Dsmash - Melee Ganondorf but faster

Downb - Falco but with Ness' Utilt style KB
B - Falcon Punch
Upb - Pika

Grab - Falcon
Fthrow - Falcon
Bthrow - Marth's Dthrow

Basically a pillaring, falcon punching death machine with pika recovery and a knee.

 

[Lordsmash]

best possible character: Meta knight.

bad yoshi you do not talk about brawl in the smash 64 discussion!!! Bad!!!

 

[Cryptic C62]

Aerial movement: Kirby

Fsmash: DK

GG

Uh... what? DK's Fsmash is arguably the most useless move in the game...

 

[mr yo]

Uh... what? DK's Fsmash is arguably the most useless move in the game...

no way is the useles...i wont say is the bes fsmash; but is as fast and i think as large as pikachu´s fsmash...pikachu´s is better because the hitbox last more...
it has good uses for ending combos and edgeguarding.

 

[NixxxoN]

Its hard to choose only 1 char for each move.

Jab/Cross: Fox/Samus/Link

Dash attack: Yoshi/Mario

Usmash: Falcon/Mario/Fox
Fsmash: Kirby speed/Pikachu range+time
Dsmash: FALCON PUNCH!

Utilt: Kirby/Ness
Ftilt: Falcon/Yoshi
Dtilt: Pikachu/Fox/Falcon

Uair: Falcon/Ness/Pika
Nair: Mario/Samus
Fair: Fox/Pika/Kirby
Bair: Samus/Falcon/Pika
Dair: Kirby/Ness/Mario

Up+B: DK/Luigi/Falcon
Up+B recovery: Mario/Pikachu
B: Falcon Punch/Mario's Fireballs/Fox laser/DK's punch
Down+B: Jigglypuff/Fox

Grabs: DK

Aerial moveset: Pikachu
Weight: DK
Height: Kirby/Pika/Jiggs
Speed: Fox/Falcon
Ground Movement: Ness

Taunt: Anyone who can taunt cancel

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

dk's fsmash is beast

 

[dch111]

Dash Pivot DK has spoken.

Taunt: DK

Class.

 

[Korrupshen]

*ragequit*

u mad u mad!!!!! LMAO

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

for using smash 64 only

Hitbox: Kirby
Weight: Samus

Initial Dash - Fox
Dash - Falcon
Walk- DK

Can pivot edgehog out of initial dash and full dash

Short Hop size - Falcon
Full hop: - Falcon
Double Jump style/Aerial Movement : Yoshi (to allow DJC's while retaining Falcon's normal speed)

Nair - Jigglypuff
Fair - Falcon
Dair - Samus (DJC + Samus's down air..Lolol)
Uair - Fox
Bair - Pikachu

Jab - Fox

Dash Attack - Fox

Utilt - Kirby
Ftilt - Fox
Dtilt - Pikachu

Usmash - Fox
Fsmash - Falcon..or possibly DK
Dsmash - Mario

Downb - Fox
B - Giant Punch (DJC aerials, giant punch finish, etc)
Upb - Pika

Grab - DK
Fthrow - Jigglypuff (to help with combos/replace Yoshi's up tilt for dumb combos)
Bthrow - Samus (DK's grab range/ending lag, Samus's wtf killing power)

Shield: Yoshi (to allow parrying, duh)

 

[SSBPete]

you guys are silly. you'd wanna make a character that could easily win right?
then you gotta think about moves that would easily link in combos, not just the best moves you can think of.

 

[rpotts]

no way is the useles...i wont say is the bes fsmash; but is as fast and i think as large as pikachu´s fsmash...pikachu´s is better because the hitbox last more...
it has good uses for ending combos and edgeguarding.

Lol at saying combo and DK's fsmash in the same sentence. Also, lol at as fast as pikas.

It is VERY tough to land in a match, period. Anyone can just roll or jump or counter attack or shield.

 

[DMoogle]

It's reasonably useful for edgeguarding.

It's definitely far, far from a useless move. DK's dash attack is about as close as you can get to a useless move (Sing too, although I'm sure Blue Yoshi would disagree )

 

[mr yo]

Lol at saying combo and DK's fsmash in the same sentence. Also, lol at as fast as pikas.

It is VERY tough to land in a match, period. Anyone can just roll or jump or counter attack or shield.

DO THIS: open you emulator input the same controls into player 1 and 2...select pika with player 1, plug player 2, selec dk with player two...go to any stage and do a forward smash: dk cames aout almost as fast as pika´s....and they end at exactly the same time...

if you think that you cant end dk combos with forward smash; i can asume your dk is not quite good...or is just pure grab.

uair-fsmash...mid % in heavy chars.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

(Sing too, although I'm sure Blue Yoshi would disagree )

It depends on the opponent. If you're playing against someone who can mash out, then it is useless. If the opponent doesn't mash out, then... well, time to show off (slide-sing to death combo)

 

[dandan]

It's reasonably useful for edgeguarding.

It's definitely far, far from a useless move. DK's dash attack is about as close as you can get to a useless move (Sing too, although I'm sure Blue Yoshi would disagree )

jigs 2v1 sing chain is too good

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Agreed... but even then, someone can mash out of it if they mash hard enough.

 

[dandan]

Agreed... but even then, someone can mash out of it if they mash hard enough.

not in high % i do not think so, or is it not related to your percentage, i do not remember.

 

[DMoogle]

In case you guys didn't know, when I was looking through moves' hitboxes, I noticed that sing has a hitbox that goes away and comes back twice, and the second time it comes back it becomes larger.

EDIT: Meh, I'm bored, so I'll post screen shots in a sec.

EDIT 2: Here you go. Each hitbox appears for about a quarter of a second (15 frames) or so (rough estimation), then disappears. There's maybe 3/4 of a second of time between each hitbox.

First hitbox, starts at the very end of "Jig" notice that it mostly covers Jiggly's left side (doesn't look like it that much in this screenshot, but that's just because of the camera angle):

Second hitbox, starts at the very end of"gly" part of "gly," notice that it mostly covers Jiggly's right side:

Third hitbox, notice that it's significantly larger. It begins at the very end of "puff":

 

[Blue Yoshi]

I always thought the music notes were the hitbox... then again, the hit boxes go as far as the music notes anyways...

 

[DMoogle]

The fact that the hitboxes go away is pretty significant though, imo.