bbALLSTAR23's Attempt at an Unbiased Character List

[Machete]

Mother Brain is just a brain in a tank, with no Smash compatibility whatsoever. Also, I think Dark Samus has been in the same amount of games, and that's if you count Zero Mission as separate from the original Metroid.

Motherbrain is far more important to the series than Dark Samus. But it can't be playable, that's obvious. That's why Dark Samus is the third most deserving character (after Ridley and Samus), instead of fourth.

Either Ridley OR Dark Samus are getting in

If you're suggesting they're competing, then you should say "Ridley will be in, Dark Samus won't". It's obvious that Ridley outprioritizes Dark Samus (even Dark Samus' supporters must admit this). But, if there are a third Metroid rep, it'll be Dark Samus.

 

[IsmaR]

If it's one or the other, then it will be Ridley. Awesome that he's in (and he's a shoe-in), but saddening that Dark Samus is out.

It should be both, seeing how there's no other reps(besides the hunters)

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

It should be both, seeing how there's no other reps(besides the hunters)

Well I agree, but apparently other people don't.

 

[Arteen]

Great list! I only have a few issues.

Geno: He's simply not important. He's an undeserving character who is only notable because he has a cult following. Look at the other Mario characters on the roster. There's Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Wario, and Yoshi: all the major characters in the series (besides Toad, but he's a move). Even Bowser Jr has been in a few important games, and if you include Baby Bowser's games, even more. Geno had one game and one cameo. That's it. He's not important. If Geno gets in, it's because of his cult, not because he's a deserving character.

AC Villager: I don't think AC is getting a rep, since the series doesn't really need a playable rep, nor would it really fit the peaceful, friendly nature of the series.

Takamaru: He's from a Japan-only game with no sequels. No one outside Japan will know who he is, and he's probably not much more memorable than Pit ir ICs in Japan. At least they had the advantage of an international release. He really doesn't have a chance.

I'm glad you included Isaac.

 

[raphtmarqui]

This is an extremely good roster.
The only things i don't agree with are k.rool and the AC character.
Other than that you have very good choices on this list.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Save for the fact there is no such thing as being "unbiased", especially opinion, this is a pretty good roster.

Just get rid of Bowser Jr. and add Stafy would make this list a GREAT dream roster instead of a semi-great one.

 

[bballstar23]

I'd like to say first that even though I support Dark Samus greatly (and obviously), I always realized that her chances were less than great, but I don't think they're all that terrible either. I also like Ridley more than her, but that's beside the point. I think Sakurai's intent on giving Brawl influence from worldwide opinions boosts her chances. It isn't all about Japan's opinion anymore. Including her would also give the Metroid series a well-rounded representation. Samus, the obvious choice, Ridley from the older generation of games, and Dark Samus from the newer games. Anyway, would you agree that if Metroid did get a third rep (Samus/Zero Suit Samus counting as one, Ridley as the second), Dark Samus would be the only logical choice?

I actually would agree that Dark Samus is the next best choice after Ridley, which is why they're under the honorable mention category. I actually hope they do put her (does it have a gender?) in the game as a way to help reach out to the American audience, but also have a third unique character from the Metroid series. I believe that Metroid Prime is really the only other recurring character that could make it into the game, but I also believe Zero Suit was Sakurai's attempt at getting more Metroid reps/playable characters, since Zero Suit has her own moveset. Hopefully, Dark Samus makes it into the game at least as an Assist Trophy to recognize the Prime series' popularity in the West.

Great list! I only have a few issues.

Geno: He's simply not important. He's an undeserving character who is only notable because he has a cult following. Look at the other Mario characters on the roster. There's Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Wario, and Yoshi: all the major characters in the series (besides Toad, but he's a move). Even Bowser Jr has been in a few important games, and if you include Baby Bowser's games, even more. Geno had one game and one cameo. That's it. He's not important. If Geno gets in, it's because of his cult, not because he's a deserving character.

AC Villager: I don't think AC is getting a rep, since the series doesn't really need a playable rep, nor would it really fit the peaceful, friendly nature of the series.

Takamaru: He's from a Japan-only game with no sequels. No one outside Japan will know who he is, and he's probably not much more memorable than Pit ir ICs in Japan. At least they had the advantage of an international release. He really doesn't have a chance.

I'm glad you included Isaac.

As for the AC Villager, I originally had them as an honorable mention, because I also don't like them, but I also thought about how Animal Crossing is another growing franchise, so it might make sense to include a character from the game, though the stage and its characters in the background might do enough to represent the series already.

In regards to Geno, while he does have a cult following over here, he obviously has some sort of a following in Japan as well, which is why he has so many votes on Sakurai's poll as well. I agree about Geno's significance, but if he is still remembered after almost 10 years for a role in one game, then there has to be some reason behind his popularity. Like I said, for those who haven't played the game, and some who have (including myself), Geno would be a perfect WTF character, causing people to maybe even have to look him up and find out more about him, as some people had to do with Game & Watch.

I agree that Pit and Ice Climbers have an advantage over Takamaru with their American release, but I believe Takamaru's popularity may give him the edge over any other Japan-only characters, except for Claus. Also, Sakurai hasn't expressed any distaste, that I know of, for Takamaru while he has for Sukapon. I know his chances are somewhat slimmer than others, so I wouldn't mind if he doesn't make it. .

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

I actually hope they do put her (does it have a gender?) in the game as a way to help reach out to the American audience, but also have a third unique character from the Metroid series.

Dark Samus is indisputably female, officially.

 

[bballstar23]

Well I didn't know, since it's Metroid Prime in Samus' Phazon Suit, right?

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

Well I didn't know, since it's Metroid Prime in Samus' Phazon Suit, right?

Yes, and Metroid Prime was female to begin with. She gave birth to Metroids during the final battle. As Dark Samus, she is called a she throughout the 2nd and 3rd games. And it just seems more fitting.

 

[bballstar23]

Yes, and Metroid Prime was female to begin with. She gave birth to Metroids during the final battle. As Dark Samus, she is called a she throughout the 2nd and 3rd games. And it just seems more fitting.

Alright, thanks for the info. I'll admit that I suck at FPS, so I never really finished Metroid Prime 2 , and have yet to play Metroid Prime 3.

 

[Banjodorf]

*takes off hat and bows*
Brilliant...

I don't know why.. But I agree with your whole list. Even with Bowser Jr, King K.Rap, and Micaiah.

Maybe it's the fact that you backed everything up. GREAT JOB on the roster!!!

Takamaru, Isaan, Ray, Andy and Olimar FTW!

I think this is a pretty awesome and likely roster!

Hey, whats wrong with K. Rool?

Hes got so many different move set opportunities, and hes awesome!

 

[Banjodorf]

I have to say I support every character choice on your roster except the villager, as Im sure YOU do.

I just find it hard to believe they can make him into a fighter, and even if they do, what would he use?

Fishing Pole of devastation?

BLunt axe toss?

Im just not feelin' this.

 

[d0c926]

I have no complaint on this roster and I hope the real roster looks silimar to this

 

[bballstar23]

I have to say I support every character choice on your roster except the villager, as Im sure YOU do.

I just find it hard to believe they can make him into a fighter, and even if they do, what would he use?

Fishing Pole of devastation?

BLunt axe toss?

Im just not feelin' this.

Well if you look at my post above, I don't really support him, but I could see him making it as the AC rep. Anyway, the current roster stands at 46, so if I wanted to take 1 character out, it would probably be the villager.

 

[Chaosblade77]

Mario - Confirmed

Bowser - Confirmed

Peach - Confirmed

Luigi - All but confirmed

Bowser Jr - I don't see what the deal with Bowser Jr is. I never really liked him, but he has
played a fairly important role in all of the recent Mario games, replacing the Koopa kids, which is rather sad to me. Maybe that is a reason I don't like him, and the fact Sunshine (his debut) didn't hit the "Mario Mark" for me. As long as he is unique in Brawl, I can handle it, since he is not a Bowser clone.

Geno - I would like to see him in Brawl. I personally think Mario RPG was one of the greatest games ever made, and Geno was an incredibly important character to the game, had awesome attacks, and would be a great tribute to such an awesome game.

Link - Confirmed

Zelda - Confirmed

Ganondorf - Confi-What? He's not? Hurry up and just say it Sakurai

Sheik - As a Zelda counterpart again, I say yes. However, I really don't think Sheik is enough to stand on her own this long after her game. No point in wasting the character though, so as Zelda's down B, sure.

Young Link - I don't like the idea of two Links since they are essencially the same character. I didn't like Dr. Mario and Young Link in Melee, and don't like the idea of Paper Mario and another Link in Brawl. Really, the only benefit is he has moveset potential, but so does a second, third, or forth Samus in a different suit (say, add her in Phazon, Light, Varia, and PED separately, and she could be unique in each one).

Pikachu - Confirmed

Pokemon Trainer - Confirmed

Jigglypuff - Probably. Unique, while I think there are better Pokemon to take this spot there is a unique moveset already, no reason to toss it.

Mewtwo - I guess.

Lucario - As a fifth rep, yes, over a lot of others I have seen suggested.

Kirby - Confirmed

Metaknight - Confirmed

Dedede - Confirmed

Donkey Kong - Confirmed

Diddy Kong - Confirmed

K. Rool - With the fall of the DK series, I am not really sure. I mean, he would be a great throw-back character to the series high point, but really, doesn't Diddy do that? I mean, I think the series is potentially worthy of a third rep, but only for it's past glory. I am neutral on this one.

Fox - Confirmed

Falco - Probably. I see no reason why either he or Wolf won't be in with a unique moveset beside Fox.

Krystal - Probably.

Samus - Confirmed

Zero Suit Samus - Confirmed, but I don't count her as her own character. She is just "an effect of Samus's FS" to me, like Sheik is an attack of Zelda's.

Ridley - Hopefully. Best second full rep for the Metroid series.

- Dark Samus - RAWR RAWR RAWR YOU NOOB not really. I prefer Ridley to Dark Samus, but I think if Ridley is passed over for any reason, Dark Samus could easily step in as the next Metroid rep with a unique moveset. The only downsides are overpopulation of Metroid (which lacks major characters in general) and lack of popularity in a single country.

Ike - Confirmed

Marth - Total surprise if he is not in.

Micaiah - Yes. A non-sword user from FE with plenty of potential. I don't really care that she is recent, along with Ike, she is a female magic user from a Fire Emblem game that is actually somewhat popular. I mean, there is the downside her stats are not all that great in game (arguably) but that is not a reason not to put her in Brawl... that is the only reason people say they dislike her, her speed sucks in her game.

Lucas - Confirmed

Claus - Would love to see him in Brawl, after seeing the Claus thread.

Captain Falcon - Confirmed (hell, might as well be. If he isn't in I will post a video on youtube of me eating my shoes)

Yohsi - Confirmed

Wario - Confirmed

Olimar - A unique addition for sure. If Sakurai can make it work, I say go for it.

Villager - No, I disagree with this one. Second character on your whole list I really say no to, simply because of the style of game and style of character the villager is. I am happy to see the series represented, but I don't think it needs a playable character. Villager just doesn't say "I want to fight" to me, even less than Peach or Yohsi does.

Ray - Would be a nice addition.

Isaac - Again, a nice addition. I don't see why he lacks support.

Ice Climbers - Confirmed

Pit - Confirmed

Takamaru - Would rather see the pink blob, but neither of their chances are all that great. Not sure why the two get compared, I guess they are the two most popular classic characters that seem to have a chance.

Game and Watch - Who knows. Might have been a one time "Whoa" character, or might be a new staple to Smash Bros.

Sonic - Confirmed

Snake - Confirmed

Megaman - Would be the best third party character behind Sonic, in my opinion.


All in all, I very much like this roster, compared to many I have seen.

 

[Ryusuke]

I like this roster a lot. It's reasonable (Bowser Jr aside). Though , I think Klonoa would be a more fun choice than Pacman in the Namco side. But, Klonoa was only in two GBA games recently. However, he's pretty big in Namco.

...he's pretty obscure though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klonoa

Mega stands a better chance, yeah.

 

[bballstar23]

Mario - Confirmed

Bowser - Confirmed

Peach - Confirmed

Luigi - All but confirmed

Bowser Jr - I don't see what the deal with Bowser Jr is. I never really liked him, but he has
played a fairly important role in all of the recent Mario games, replacing the Koopa kids, which is rather sad to me. Maybe that is a reason I don't like him, and the fact Sunshine (his debut) didn't hit the "Mario Mark" for me. As long as he is unique in Brawl, I can handle it, since he is not a Bowser clone.

Geno - I would like to see him in Brawl. I personally think Mario RPG was one of the greatest games ever made, and Geno was an incredibly important character to the game, had awesome attacks, and would be a great tribute to such an awesome game.

Link - Confirmed

Zelda - Confirmed

Ganondorf - Confi-What? He's not? Hurry up and just say it Sakurai

Sheik - As a Zelda counterpart again, I say yes. However, I really don't think Sheik is enough to stand on her own this long after her game. No point in wasting the character though, so as Zelda's down B, sure.

Young Link - I don't like the idea of two Links since they are essencially the same character. I didn't like Dr. Mario and Young Link in Melee, and don't like the idea of Paper Mario and another Link in Brawl. Really, the only benefit is he has moveset potential, but so does a second, third, or forth Samus in a different suit (say, add her in Phazon, Light, Varia, and PED separately, and she could be unique in each one).

Pikachu - Confirmed

Pokemon Trainer - Confirmed

Jigglypuff - Probably. Unique, while I think there are better Pokemon to take this spot there is a unique moveset already, no reason to toss it.

Mewtwo - I guess.

Lucario - As a fifth rep, yes, over a lot of others I have seen suggested.

Kirby - Confirmed

Metaknight - Confirmed

Dedede - Confirmed

Donkey Kong - Confirmed

Diddy Kong - Confirmed

K. Rool - With the fall of the DK series, I am not really sure. I mean, he would be a great throw-back character to the series high point, but really, doesn't Diddy do that? I mean, I think the series is potentially worthy of a third rep, but only for it's past glory. I am neutral on this one.

Fox - Confirmed

Falco - Probably. I see no reason why either he or Wolf won't be in with a unique moveset beside Fox.

Krystal - Probably.

Samus - Confirmed

Zero Suit Samus - Confirmed, but I don't count her as her own character. She is just "an effect of Samus's FS" to me, like Sheik is an attack of Zelda's.

Ridley - Hopefully. Best second full rep for the Metroid series.

- Dark Samus - RAWR RAWR RAWR YOU NOOB not really. I prefer Ridley to Dark Samus, but I think if Ridley is passed over for any reason, Dark Samus could easily step in as the next Metroid rep with a unique moveset. The only downsides are overpopulation of Metroid (which lacks major characters in general) and lack of popularity in a single country.

Ike - Confirmed

Marth - Total surprise if he is not in.

Micaiah - Yes. A non-sword user from FE with plenty of potential. I don't really care that she is recent, along with Ike, she is a female magic user from a Fire Emblem game that is actually somewhat popular. I mean, there is the downside her stats are not all that great in game (arguably) but that is not a reason not to put her in Brawl... that is the only reason people say they dislike her, her speed sucks in her game.

Lucas - Confirmed

Claus - Would love to see him in Brawl, after seeing the Claus thread.

Captain Falcon - Confirmed (hell, might as well be. If he isn't in I will post a video on youtube of me eating my shoes)

Yohsi - Confirmed

Wario - Confirmed

Olimar - A unique addition for sure. If Sakurai can make it work, I say go for it.

Villager - No, I disagree with this one. Second character on your whole list I really say no to, simply because of the style of game and style of character the villager is. I am happy to see the series represented, but I don't think it needs a playable character. Villager just doesn't say "I want to fight" to me, even less than Peach or Yohsi does.

Ray - Would be a nice addition.

Isaac - Again, a nice addition. I don't see why he lacks support.

Ice Climbers - Confirmed

Pit - Confirmed

Takamaru - Would rather see the pink blob, but neither of their chances are all that great. Not sure why the two get compared, I guess they are the two most popular classic characters that seem to have a chance.

Game and Watch - Who knows. Might have been a one time "Whoa" character, or might be a new staple to Smash Bros.

Sonic - Confirmed

Snake - Confirmed

Megaman - Would be the best third party character behind Sonic, in my opinion.


All in all, I very much like this roster, compared to many I have seen.

On a side note, in my intro I mention how Zero Suit and Sheik aren't there own characters, but I have their pictures in there anyway.

I like this roster a lot. It's reasonable (Bowser Jr aside). Though , I think Klonoa would be a more fun choice than Pacman in the Namco side. But, Klonoa was only in two GBA games recently. However, he's pretty big in Namco.

...he's pretty obscure though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klonoa

Mega stands a better chance, yeah.

I didn't want to go too in depth into the third party category, but I still think Pac-Man would best represent Namco and video game history alike.

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

Just get rid of Bowser Jr. and add Stafy would make this list a GREAT dream roster instead of a semi-great one.

*snorts*

Young Link - I don't like the idea of two Links since they are essencially the same character. I didn't like Dr. Mario and Young Link in Melee, and don't like the idea of Paper Mario and another Link in Brawl. Really, the only benefit is he has moveset potential, but so does a second, third, or forth Samus in a different suit (say, add her in Phazon, Light, Varia, and PED separately, and she could be unique in each one).

Mewtwo - I guess.

Just curious, you've never played Wind Waker, have you? They are not the same character in the way Paper Mario and Mario are.

As for Mewtwo, I'd like to hear one solid, viable reason why he wouldn't return. He seems to me a guarantee.

 

[IsmaR]

As for Mewtwo, I'd like to hear one solid, viable reason why he wouldn't return. He seems to me a guarantee.

QFT

Hey DP, go vote for Mewtwo
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=125751&page=290

 

[Chaosblade77]

Just curious, you've never played Wind Waker, have you? They are not the same character in the way Paper Mario and Mario are.

As for Mewtwo, I'd like to hear one solid, viable reason why he wouldn't return. He seems to me a guarantee.

I never liked Mewtwo. I have no reason why he shouldn't be in Brawl other than that, therefore I didn't post anything against him. "I guess" was sort of a Meh, I can't disprove it but I don't like it. Notice on all of the unconfirmed Pokemon, I wasn't really pushing for them.

And I own Wind Waker, but he is still Link. Yeah, I know it took place in a different time period and sort of had different characters (not really though), but Link was still Link. He had the same design, same name, just a different animation style and a different story.

The difference in Mario and Paper Mario (to me) is that they didn't try to cover up that is was, in essence, the same character. There was just a different style, but it didn't have the whole character and time period difference.

Tetra was still Zelda and Ganon made his appearance, and had many characteristics of all other Zelda games, simply because that is what it was. To me, he's still Link, and I don't want to see a second Link in the game. Just like I don't want to see a second Mario, or any other character in that manner.

I guess two kids in green pajamas with a sword and shield, who look the same, one is just designed differently (and granted could have a "Luigified" moveset) just didn't sit right to me for Brawl. I think he would have several A attacks that would be quite similar to Link's, but his specials would be different. I honestly feel like the only reason people feel he has a chance is because of having Link and Mario in Melee twice. I don't know about Sakurai's poll, but wasn't it made before Twilight Princess was announced? I think that on the poll, it was more "that style of Link" and not him alongside the other Link.

I agree with the points that Link is meant to represent Link from the franchise as a whole, just as other characters like Mario and Samus are. It shouldn't take two of the character to do that.

I don't mean to turn this into a debate about that, I was sort of asked... and that is just my opinion. I don't care if other people support a character that I don't, or don't support a character that I do.

 

[PolarisJunkie]

Good predictions. I do however would think that Dixie Kong should get an Honorable Mention in the DK section.

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

Just get rid of Bowser Jr. and add Stafy would make this list a GREAT dream roster instead of a semi-great one.

You were saying?

Sorry, I had to.

 

[bballstar23]

You were saying?

Sorry, I had to.

Haha yeah, I need to darken the text for Waluigi and Stafy now, to indicate that they've been deconfirmed.

Good predictions. I do however would think that Dixie Kong should get an Honorable Mention in the DK section.

Well I didn't think she was worth a mention. I haven't heard a good argument from her, and I think using all three monkeys would not necessarily be an accurate representation of the Donkey Kong series; K. Rool has appeared in all Donkey Kong Country games, which is why he would get the edge. If any thing, Dixie will probably be an Assist Trophy.

 

[Joka]

Have you ever considered Namco's character, Klonoa? I've heard a few rumors about him.

 

[bballstar23]

I have, but I don't think he's too significant of a character to make it in. If you have a good argument though, I'd love to hear it.

 

[Joka]

Well...

-He's the only other Namco character to represent besides Pacman. He's also the only character to actually show off the yellow mascot (on his cap). The problem with Pacman is that I can't think of a good enough moveset for him as I can with Klonoa.

-He has pretty well rounded abilities. Double jumping, grabbing, floating...Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Viel even featured a taunt button for him. Also, in Namco X Capcom he is a playable character. A video of him shows him unleashing a powerful Thunder Hurricane (an attack that I think will be his Final Smash in Brawl).

-That rumor about his voice actor in a "huge Nintendo game" still lingers...

-He's been requested on a few Japanese polls and was even on the US Nintendo Poll along with Captain Olimar, Megaman, etc.

-I really think either him or a Tales character will make it in. Pacman might be an assist trophy.

 

[Foe]

If ANY Namco characters got in, it would be Pac Man.

 

[Joka]

Him, Klonoa or a Tales character.

 

[bballstar23]

Namco also has Soul Caliber too; Pac-Man has been there from the beginning, which is why he would most likely be the best representative from the series. I provide more reasons for him in the first post.

 

[A Link to the Snitch]

Good assessment, although your opinion on Bomberman is slanted - Bomberman Act Zero is definitely not representative of Bomberman's downfall. We've gotten several Bomberman games as of late, and five excellent Bomberman games have been Land Touch! 1/2, Bomberman Land (PSP/Wii), and Bomberman Story DS. The series has definitely not died down.

 

[bballstar23]

Good assessment, although your opinion on Bomberman is slanted - Bomberman Act Zero is definitely not representative of Bomberman's downfall. We've gotten several Bomberman games as of late, and five excellent Bomberman games have been Land Touch! 1/2, Bomberman Land (PSP/Wii), and Bomberman Story DS. The series has definitely not died down.

Actually, thanks for bringing that up; that was one of the last ones I wrote, so it was very rushed compared to the others. What I have been trying to say, is that Bomberman has seemingly faded in an era of games that revolves around guns, blood, and cussing. He would be a pretty good candidate, and help remind us of the classics; like I said, I wouldn't mind if he got in.

 

[Pulse]

While I agree with you on Black Shadow, F-Zero HAS grown quite a bit. I never understood why BS was so popular. If another F-Zero Rep were to appear, It would likly be the main villian, Deathborn. While not quite as popular, he is very important to the main F-Zeo games (F-Zero, X, and GX)

 

[Nintendo_Rockstar]

Awesome job on this roster!! Very accurate! Well if I think of it, it's practically perfect! Congrats!

 

[A Link to the Snitch]

I never liked Mewtwo. I have no reason why he shouldn't be in Brawl other than that, therefore I didn't post anything against him. "I guess" was sort of a Meh, I can't disprove it but I don't like it. Notice on all of the unconfirmed Pokemon, I wasn't really pushing for them.

And I own Wind Waker, but he is still Link. Yeah, I know it took place in a different time period and sort of had different characters (not really though), but Link was still Link. He had the same design, same name, just a different animation style and a different story.

The difference in Mario and Paper Mario (to me) is that they didn't try to cover up that is was, in essence, the same character. There was just a different style, but it didn't have the whole character and time period difference.

Tetra was still Zelda and Ganon made his appearance, and had many characteristics of all other Zelda games, simply because that is what it was. To me, he's still Link, and I don't want to see a second Link in the game. Just like I don't want to see a second Mario, or any other character in that manner.

I guess two kids in green pajamas with a sword and shield, who look the same, one is just designed differently (and granted could have a "Luigified" moveset) just didn't sit right to me for Brawl. I think he would have several A attacks that would be quite similar to Link's, but his specials would be different. I honestly feel like the only reason people feel he has a chance is because of having Link and Mario in Melee twice. I don't know about Sakurai's poll, but wasn't it made before Twilight Princess was announced? I think that on the poll, it was more "that style of Link" and not him alongside the other Link.

I agree with the points that Link is meant to represent Link from the franchise as a whole, just as other characters like Mario and Samus are. It shouldn't take two of the character to do that.

I don't mean to turn this into a debate about that, I was sort of asked... and that is just my opinion. I don't care if other people support a character that I don't, or don't support a character that I do.

Mario and Samus have never had any conflict of having two very distinctive games in its series - one cartoony, one realistic. In this case, TP Link doesn't represent TWW Link at all - arguably, the two of them have split into their own Zeldas. One is a cartoony Zelda, the other a realistic Zelda. Both need representation, especially the most popular and common of the two. Considering that Sakurai lives in Japan, he's far more to appreciate the cartoony Link over the realistic Link.

 

[TheMastermind]

Good character roaster except, remove Geno hes a 3rd party character.

I personally believe Ness will be in the game. Sakuri never said he wasn't including clones.
and he specifically mentions that Lucas was very different from Ness.
Also he said "until now Ness was included in the game"
This is a phrase that hes used before, like when he said
"until now there has been a handycap mode in the game."
Its the same sentence of words translated.
The actual translation makes it seem strange. But in the language Sakuri wrote it in
it basically confirms ness.

 

[bballstar23]

Good character roaster except, remove Geno hes a 3rd party character.

I personally believe Ness will be in the game. Sakuri never said he wasn't including clones.
and he specifically mentions that Lucas was very different from Ness.
Also he said "until now Ness was included in the game"
This is a phrase that hes used before, like when he said
"until now there has been a handycap mode in the game."
Its the same sentence of words translated.
The actual translation makes it seem strange. But in the language Sakuri wrote it in
it basically confirms ness.

I already said I wouldn't debate this, because its controversial, but if you read what I said, I mentioned how Ness was planned to be replaced as early as Melee, so giving Lucas his moveset shows that he may have gone through with this. About Geno, Sakurai mentioned he wouldn't count Geno as third-party since he's part of the Mario series. I can't remember where I saw this, but if I do, I'll provide a link to it.

While I agree with you on Black Shadow, F-Zero HAS grown quite a bit. I never understood why BS was so popular. If another F-Zero Rep were to appear, It would likly be the main villian, Deathborn. While not quite as popular, he is very important to the main F-Zeo games (F-Zero, X, and GX)

I have nothing against F-Zero getting another rep, but including a character just for the sake of having another rep isn't a good reason in my opinion. I actually looked at Deathborn, but he doesn't seem to have too big of a fan base. Captain Falcon is pretty much the poster boy for F-Zero, with Goroh probably being in second, because of his appearances in all of the manuals. If Goroh is an Assist Trophy, than I don't know who else could be important enough to become a playable character.

Awesome job on this roster!! Very accurate! Well if I think of it, it's practically perfect! Congrats!

Why, thank you.

 

[Joka]

Say, if you don't think Klonoa will get in, search "Klonoa Brawl" and you'll see people with their reasons. I advise looking up that rumor about him as well.

 

[bballstar23]

Hmm, I couldn't find anything. Could you provide me with a link?

 

[smashbot226]

I would've given Kamek an honorable mention in Yoshi series...