Bayonetta's Jab is very interesting....

[_Ne0N_]

So, my friend was playing Sm4sh the other day. He found this out that makes Bayonetta broken AF.

(Uploaded on his YouTube channel)

What do you guys think? Broken or nah?

 

[Deleted member]

's Aura Sphere, and most rapid jabs can do this (, etc.)

Due to the changes to shield, rapid jabs can break shields if you don't SDI the correct way.

 

[_Ne0N_]

's Aura Sphere, and most rapid jabs can do this (, etc.)

Due to the changes to shield, rapid jabs can break shields if you don't SDI the correct way.

Oh, ok, but I think that Diddy, Falcon, and Fox's jabs get canceled in the middle of the jab, allowing you to escape.

My bad if I'm wrong on the explanation, but this is just my experience.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh, ok, but I think that Diddy, Falcon, and Fox's jabs get canceled in the middle of the jab, allowing you to escape.

My bad if I'm wrong on the explanation, but this is just my experience.

When you are next to the ledge, and shield a multi jab/hitting move, you get locked (Shields can be dropped in Frame 3, but Frame 2 moves locks the shield for you to not drop it). Basically, any Frame 2-3 multi-jab can indeed lock a shield besides the ledge.

 

[_Ne0N_]

When you are next to the ledge, and shield a multi jab/hitting move, you get locked (Shields can be dropped in Frame 3, but Frame 2 moves locks the shield for you to not drop it). Basically, any Frame 2-3 multi-jab can indeed lock a shield besides the ledge.

Oh, ok. I haven't had that experience because I was never shield pressured near the ledge. Thank you for explaining.

 

[Sonicninja115]

Oh, ok. I haven't had that experience because I was never shield pressured near the ledge. Thank you for explaining.

Could you repost this in the Metagame thread? I would like to add this and look into it more.

 

[_Ne0N_]

Could you repost this in the Metagame thread? I would like to add this and look into it more.

Sure thing. But, uhhh, where is it exactly?

 

[Otterz]

Sure thing. But, uhhh, where is it exactly?

Should be pinned to the top of the board.

http://smashboards.com/threads/secrets-of-the-umbra-bayonetta-metagame-discussion.430130/

 

[DisidisiD]

Actually, I believe that this is escapable. At least bullets art part is. The shield stun on those bullets isn't long enough to keep the opponent in shield and unshielding only means they get hit by a few bullets. Nothing much.

 

[_Ne0N_]

Actually, I believe that this is escapable. At least bullets art part is. The shield stun on those bullets isn't long enough to keep the opponent in shield and unshielding only means they get hit by a few bullets. Nothing much.

Huh, I didn't think about that, I forgot the bullets don't do much hitstun.

 

[DisidisiD]

Huh, I didn't think about that, I forgot the bullets don't do much hitstun.

Yeah it isn't enough to keep them in stun. Not even BA Dtilt is, and that does double the damage.

 

[Deleted member]

Actually, I believe that this is escapable. At least bullets art part is. The shield stun on those bullets isn't long enough to keep the opponent in shield and unshielding only means they get hit by a few bullets. Nothing much.

Bullets do insane shield damage, I'm not sure if the Bullets lock the shield, but I'm definitely sure that her rapid jab does.

 

[ddonaldo]

Can 100% confirm that the bullets do not lock you in shield

 

[Drig786]

Can 100% confirm that the bullets do not lock you in shield

would be broken AF if it could

 

[BlackCephie]

BA dont shield lock, but they do pretty significant shield damage for sure.

 

[Pika!]

Probably just felt really pressured and didn't really know what was going on lmaooo.

Either way once the BA's started he could've went on the offensive. Bayo's Jab is decent along with a slow startup.

 

[many37]

Nah. The other person using Cloud in the video could have grabbed the Bayo user before his shield could have broken (specially since Bayo's pistols do not make the opponent flinch if used after a move; the Neutral B move is another story).

Regardless, imo i think even if Bayo's jab could break shields easily I wouldn't necessarily call her jab broken, since to break someone's shield is a very situational chain of events for the most part.